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Old May 24th, 2008, 02:34 AM
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Re: Father arrested in honour Killing of 14 year Old Girl

sad to see such incidents happen in india, i agree a bit to desi bawra, paisa aur shoshebaazi ka chakkar hai saara.

kidhar gaya yaar wo maa baap ka pyaar?? wo dada daadi ki kahaniya jisko sun ke bachchey badey hote they?? maa baap ke paas paisa bahut hai, lekin teenage bete beti ke liye tem nahi....parental love ke naam pe paisa aur expensive gadgets se pamper karte apne bachcho ko, ghar me khaane ko sab kuchh hai, lekin bhookh sirf burger aur pyaas coke se bujhate hain....naukar aur babysitter ke bharose bachcha chhod ke maa kitty party me jaati, maa baap dono kaam karte, ghar me bachha naukar ke bharose, ek ghar me rahte lekin goodmorning goodnight cellphone ke through hota..games/sport ke naam per video games aur online combat karte, sociallizing karne ko online chatting ya orkut ya discs me jaate.

baap ka affair aunty ke sath dekha, uski maa kidhar thi?? shayad wo bhi involved hogi apne boyfriend ke sath ya fir kaam me busy, bachchi ko naukar ke sath hamdardi milli...naukar ne uske bholepan ka fayda uthaya.

baap ne khud kiya to thik, ab beti ke sath huwa to izzat aa gayi beech me, kitna kameena hai.


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Re: Father arrested in honour Killing of 14 year Old Girl

Saala Kahaani mein twist....
mother says hubby is innocent..... lover and her hubby says that police didnt bother to interrogate them even once...
fukkin news channels are showing this lady(with name et al) as the love interest of the father....
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Re: Father killed daughter to hide his affair

This is a very heinous, dastardly and perverted crime. I cannot criticise it more, for I cannot comprehend how can a father kill his child.

As for social values, the problem is what we saw in the former USSR. Let me explain how it is a comparision with India's situation.

When the USSR went democratic, almost overnight, the people who had never known what democracy mean could not handle it. Things went downhill. hey could not cope with democracy and there was a lot of law and order problem. You dont need me to tell you how things went downhill.

In India, the sudden change in economy, and by sudden I mean within a short span of a decade (from early 90s), caused a lot many people to get more employment and disposable income grew a lot. What did this do? Many people suddenly got access to a lot of money to play around with. With it came a lot of new 'provocations and attractions' and chances to committ such acts. I am no moral authority but with the advent of the internet, the local video rental store who secretly rented porn tapes was out of business. Now porn and other such titillations were easily available in the comfort of the home on the desktop computer. With this came other perversions like wife swapping, swinging and all such perverse concepts.

I dont blame the West, as not all Westerners are into such things. The difference is that many in the West have been practising such 'socially questionable and generally unaccepted' practises for long. The West has matured to turn a blind eye to such things and accept them as part of life.

In India, it is obvious that such things are very new and hard to digest. So this Doctor, if at all he was into wife swapping (as the wife also was arrested), wanted to let his perversions have a field day. His daughter, brought up in our traditional and cultural environment found her father's acts perverted and unacceptable. So she objected. And this sub human killed her.

Again, I am not blaming this on the West or fiding an excuse for this pathetic father. Yet, the people in India who are self appointed morality brigade members should open their eyes and realise what is happening. I know it for a fact that the teenagers of today have a very different 'environment' than what I had. Especially in large cities, the 'youth culture' has changed a lot.

Anyway, I just wanted to say that we cannot blame the West entirely because I dont believe that just because you watch a porn film made in the West which depicts casual sex, you should consider it a license to do the same.

But I still believe that majority of our brethren back home have not given in to the ease of instant gratification of the flesh and abandon our culture and traditions. Its just the black sheep, which are present in all societies, which show up their head and then cause such tragedy and sorrow.

Jaane do.. its Saturday morning and seeing this horrible news made me really feel sad and sick. What I wrote is a feeble attempt to sort of rationalise and find out why one would do such an act. What is it that we are adopting and how things are changing back home.
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Re: Father killed daughter to hide his affair

the fuck buddy concept is geting popular in india too...i see india competing with the west in such things
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Re: Father killed daughter to hide his affair

What you are watching and reading is the police version which may or may not be true plus the police have found no evidence that the father killed the daughter and servant.
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Re: Father killed daughter to hide his affair

How are you guys believing the Noida police story so easily ? This is the same police which did not even cordon off the murder area and announced a reward of Rs.20000/- on the whereabouts of Hemraj when his corpse was lying over their head


It looks to be a concocted story to save their ass after facing so much of heat from media .Moreover , the SSP has been transferred after IG announced this thory . Seems like he did not agree with this theory and therefore has been shunted out .
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Re: Father killed daughter to hide his affair

Eventhough several people have reservations about the Polices' theory, I believe it is true. Here is how the sequence can be made believable.

The Talwars and Durranis may have long involved in kinky orgies and wife swapping stuff. They must have had the stuff for long under the wraps, but the growing daughter might have figured out whats going on one day. Naturally for an affluent family, the daughter might be left on her own and in the care of the servant, to whom she must have confided in the most as he was like a elderly figure. Also going by the fact that she made 600 odd calls to a close friend - a boy whom she trusted the most. All this suggests me that of late the girl developed a big disjoint with both her parents.

On the fateful day after the doctor returned from some outside work he saw the girl and the man discussing about the latest finds and finding solace in each others company. In a fit of rage he must have eliminated the servant because of something he must have said to the daughter. After that he had an hour or so to think and he knew that his daughter would not stand interrogation from the police and would spill the beans. Added to this is his annoyance with his daughter - she must have attacked him pointing about his sexcapades when he tried to restrict her teenage affairs. So he eliminated the daughter.

Now the mother must not have know this, as the murders were performed in a way that there is no scope of sound - sudden hit with a hammer to the head and immediate cutting to the throat to scuffle the voice. But the mother must very well be part of the sexual angle and she took several day to make up her mind and now she is very much into damage control mode. Trying to salvage whatever his left of her and her husbands future.
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How are you guys believing the Noida police story so easily ? This is the same police which did not even cordon off the murder area and announced a reward of Rs.20000/- on the whereabouts of Hemraj when his corpse was lying over their head


It looks to be a concocted story to save their ass after facing so much of heat from media .Moreover , the SSP has been transferred after IG announced this thory . Seems like he did not agree with this theory and therefore has been shunted out .
I've been following this story from day 1, even when the police in the beginning announced the servant Hemraj accused and started hunting for him, we at home were discussing that this is not the case what is shown on Media and we suspected her parents from day 1, because:

1) Imagine yourself getting up one day in the morning and someone in your house is brutally murdered, what will you do first, you will panic, you will scream-shout and call the adosi-padosi first and then with immediate effect will call Police. On the contrary, her parents did not paniced, did not call adosi-padosi, did call police even but phoned her dubai mama and relatives that this happened. Police was called later on.

2) When police came and started its proceedings, the parents continously stressed on police that what will you do asking questions from us, go and get that naukar who killed our li'l child. The doc is having clients as politicians, beaurocrats and top noch people so U can understand the kind of edge he got on the police. No, Im not defending police but this was parents who suspected towards naukar not the police on first.

3) The beds in the two rooms where parents and Aarushi slept are marely 5-6 feets from each, how come they did not have any clue that their li'l daughter is being butchered.

4) The parents were in great hurry of asthi visargan, so they rushed to Hardwar 2 days after their child was killed. They did not at all were interested to see where the proceedings are going to fetch the murderer of their daughter. At Hardwar the father did a blunder which was shown on TV. The father told media and police that he never knew at what hour her daughter was murdered, but....in Hardwar in the pothis of their family Pandas who are maintaining their family recored from last 200 years the father got wrote that Aarushi was killed 0200 hrs. on that fateful day. How come he knew the time when at first he told media and police his unawareness about this.

5) Ok the police did not bothered to search the house not even did it bothered to go on terrace, but my dear friend apna ghar to apna ghar hota hai. If in my house there are bloodspots everywhere leading towards terrace, will I not bother. I will for sure but they did'nt.

6) Hemraj was killed on terrace but the two khumbkarans sleeping downstairs did not hear any one walking upstairs on the terrace.

7) From the beggining the parents were tight-lipped. Why ? Was their anything to hide ? When my dearest is killed brutally why will I chose to remain silent. Why ?

8) The first post-morterm report was false, the timing of the killing were false in that report and it has been proved. Who was involved behind this ? The Police ? If yes, then why ? Any kind of "Top Pressures".

9) The parents are also not suspecting any kind of purani ranjish, property dispute, any kind of relationship problem of Aarushi. Why the heck then that girl and Nepali are murdered ?


What I can figure out from this case is, 99.9999% chances are that the parents are inlvoved in the scene. The chances are they first tried to dabaa-oing the case, purchased or pressurised the police, purchased the docs doing the post-morterm, but, the retired DSP
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Re: Father killed daughter to hide his affair

yes that pander and koli case happened in noida ,right???i doubt the ability of noida police then...they are the worst police dept in the whole india..nithari case was the most horrifying one...noone talks about it these days
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Re: Father killed daughter to hide his affair

I don't know what our Hindu calender says ... but for sure we are living in Kalyug.

What the fuck is going on? Where from are raising these monsters?

In Austria a sick bastard imprisoned own flesh and blood ... 24 years and had children with own daughter.

Each morning I read the news and wonder ... what the fuck is going on! Things cannot get any worse ... just when you reassure yourself ... comes another story.

World needs a messiah ... and very badly.
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Re: Father killed daughter to hide his affair

my roomie's uncle is involved in investigating this crime and acc. to him the father found the girl with Hemraj in "not so comfortable" position... he then called the servant on the terrace and killed him in a fit of rage... then the daughter had an argument with him and she met the same fate as her lover... dont know how true it is but thats what I got from my roomie...
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Re: Father killed daughter to hide his affair

Police has the story but could not produce evidence. It has now leaked out internet chat transcripts of a minor girl who is no longer alive because it has no concrete evidence to support their story.

http://www.ibnlive.com/videos/66225/...-messages.html
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Such news always does bring up these home values vs outside bad influence debate. Human nature always has had and will continue to have the potential to be evil just as it is capable of being good. Unfortunately, as a country, we seem to be a lazy and greedy lot, always looking for an easy way out. This is unfortunately not the first time a father has killed his child and domestic help. The fact that it was a wealthy dentist pushed this into the news quickly. Had this happened in some slum area, people would shrug their shoulders and there would be no talk of Ramayan and Mahabharat.

But my questions and comments are: Where does education take us and where are we going as a nation? Can we rely on only certificates and salary packages to declare our worth to society? If that was the case, why are educated Indians doing their best to go abroad and why do politicians and other wealthy people go for foreign doctors when they are ill? Why does our country look the way it doesóthe roads, the poor planning of the cities, the yearly floods, the same problems recycling themselves every year, without fail? For all the infrastructure bonds and all the building going on, why donít things improve at a very visible level? With our mentality of making our children into doctors or engineers, why donít we have anything to show for it after slogging to educate them?

Is it enough to rely on harried teachers to inculcate values into children and for parents to neglect theirs? Is it all right to vote or not vote for politicians who siphon money into their own accounts so that they and their kids can go abroad and get their kids married off in pomp? What is the purpose of a law and order system that doesnít maintain any order and doesnít implement and update any laws? Why is it that for a culture that believes in saving face and wonders what the neighbours will think of us, our police, politicians and lawyers (and just about everybody including my friends in Airtel and ICICI) donít feel ashamed to be so incompetent and inefficient that they talk so much rubbish, botch up evidence so badly and make such a bloody mess of everything?

What is our duty as citizens when we havenít understood that the roads are not our toilets, that it is we who must take care of our own society, and not blame MNCs, NASA, Pakistan and global warming? How useful are we as human beings, neighbours, relatives etc when we donít help anyone because itís not our problem, when we are helpless to do anything for ourselves and when we donít seem to get much done besides eat, sleep, drink, watch cricket, talk on mobile phones, increase the already burgeoning population and generally litter the space around us with plastic and garbage, polluting the environment and endangering ourselves?

Who is to blame when we read and hear of terrorist attacks in our own country and we donít have the sense to demand our own safety but instead go to other countriesí governments and demand the safety of our citizens in those countries from these governments? How do we know that the terrorists are not our own irate relatives or neighbours or acquaintances who have got fed up or gone crazy and are now taking revenge on such an indifferent society and who will feel sorry that they did? Are we worth saving? Are our cultural values really that strong? If they are, why arenít they able to keep us strong in spite of the MNCs and the influx of money and sudden changes in lifestyle?
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Its all part of Incredible India
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After character assassinations and everything, the suspect now is .....................................
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