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On November 3, a five-foot long Hellfire missile shot from the CIA's remote-controlled Predator spy-plane struck a moving car in Yemen. US citizen Ahmed Hijazi, al-Qaeda jihadi Abu Ali al-Harethi, and four other "suspected al-Qaeda operatives" promptly flew Jannat-wards for a blissful romp with 72 houris. Al-Harethi, too, was merely "suspected" of masterminding the October 2000 attack on the USS Cole, which killed 17 Americans. Actually, the deadly drones were developed precisely to "give the CIA a way to track and kill suspected terrorists without putting US pilots at risk" (Associated Press, November 7). "Suspected terrorists," please note. And never mind possible civilian casualties.
The administration, working with the authority of a presidential finding that permits covert operations against al-Qaeda, considered al-Harethi and his band of merry men a military target --- "combatants" under international law. Officials contended that the missile strike was an act of self-defence, also permitted under international laws. "Sometimes the best course is a good offense... The President has made clear that we fight the war on terrorism wherever we need. Terrorists don't recognize any borders or nations," said White House spokesman Ari Fleischer.

Pretty hairy, in'nit? So, what was the American people's reaction to the Bush administration's sanctioning the killing of 6 people only suspected of being terrorists, without any show of proof or trial...?

Well, just days later, and much to the breast-beating by the EU (ie, European Ummah), George W's Republican Party won a landslide victory for the control of Congress. The GOP made gains in the House of Representatives (which it already controlled) and grabbed the Senate, too. Joseph Cirincione, an analyst with the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace, said, "Any talk of restraining the President or qualifying any of his foreign policy initiatives with congressional action is now gone. And the Democrats --- forget it, man. When they get whipped like this, it takes them a year to recover. They don't have a clue what to do."

Of course, there were the usual notes of dissent from the usual suspects, who challenged the legality of the strike by calling it "assassination" in violation of a presidential executive order. However, the voices that eventually prevailed were those of people like Professor Jeffrey Addicott, who teaches national security law in San Antonio, Texas: "An enemy combatant --- whether part of an organized military or a civilian who undertakes military activities --- is a legitimate target at all times and may be lawfully killed, even if by surprise. At the same time, the law of armed conflict absolutely prohibits the killing of non-combatants, except as a matter of collateral damage where civilians may be killed ancillary to the lawful attack on a military objective."

In short, the American people not only endorsed President Bush's war on terrorism and his aggressive foreign policy, but also approved his methods of waging war. Meaning, the American *people* --- and I emphasise "people" to exclude Californians and the dense human rights-walas --- know the implication of the words "war" and "terrorism" (even though the President himself is pretty much clueless about which country has been and is the hub of Islamic terrorism).

In a country notorious for crackpot litigation, no busybody emerged to scream "Murder in Yemen", no NGO filed a complaint with any national or international human rights body against the killings, and, there was no page after page after page after page of "investigation" by the "liberal" media buffoons.

It is not politicians who make a nation strong and invincible; it is, always, the common people --- those who elect their leaders on the basis of specific policies required at a given point of time; those who simply boycott a consumer product if it doesn't meet their political or quality standards; those who immediately withdraw ads and subscriptions to offending media. Under such pressures, politicians, manufacturers and media constantly need to have their fingers on the pulse of their constituency, consumer base or readership --- and adjust their course of action accordingly. And therefore, the American people never are bombarded with a plethora of garbage on "Dr" Krishna, Kuldip Nayar, "Ansal Plaza: 7 key questions," or directions by the NHRC (which Chandan Mitra aptly calls the 'National Terrorist Rights Commission').

Such ignominies are what we Indians bring upon ourselves by not exercising our power to block and discard. This weakness is based on our very special sense of "tradition" --- the same that elevates dumb bovines to human motherhood, revels in the janoi syndrome, worships Gandhian ahimsa, or takes pride in generations supporting a single political party or subscribing to a broadsheet, no matter their degeneration. When we cannot break the mould of rotting traditions, neither do politicians, nor does the country.

The following events --- and their consequences --- exemplify the Great Indian Tradition of mercy, which is put into effect only when faced with those who have a track record of extreme violence. For all other cases, for instance, the people calculatedly kept in the shit holes of the Great Hindu Society, gau-hatya is reason enough to move legislation and justify murder. The single hallmark of a coward is that he attacks only those who are too weak to retaliate. Therefore, those who plunder, murder and rape get unique treatment from this nation of cowards:

Jihadis Masood Azhar and Mushtaq Zargar are safely escorted to Afghanistan by Jaswant Singh on December 31, 1999. They go on to form and lead Jaish-e-Muhammad and Al-Umar, respectively, which jihad groups proceed to take hundreds of Indian lives.
On October 27, 2002, Sonia Gandhi and Mufti Mohammad Sayeed agree on a common minimum programme which promises to bar the implementation of POTA and to wind up the Special Operations Group. The last time that the government let down the guard --- for the "unilateral cease-fire" of November 26, 2000 --- Islamic jihadis killed 242 people in 50 days, as opposed to the 154 killed in the 78 days prior to the cease-fire.
JKLF commander Showkat Ahmad Bakshi, who masterminded the abduction of Mufti Mohammad Sayeed's daughter Rubaiya, is set free on bail after 13 years. In December 1989, even as agencies were negotiating Rubaiya's release, the Janata Dal government unconditionally conceded the terrorists' demands. Within days, Kashmir exploded into a full-blown insurgency. The Janata Dal's response to the threat is acknowledged as *the* event that triggered jihad in J&K, which has taken over 33,000 lives in the State.
On November 3, Delhi police shoot dead two Lashkar-e-Taiba terrorists at the Ansal Plaza mall. Within hours, a quack, Hari Krishna, tells a reporter that it was a set-up encounter. Immediately, the media goes into Inquisition mode. The Delhi police, instead of doing their job, are forced to organise press conferences and waste time investigating a publicity-hungry known offender, now crowned as Mr Truth.
On November 5, Mufti Mohammad Sayeed asks for a unilateral Ramzan ceasefire and "unconditional dialogue" with jihadis. On November 7, Lashkar-e-Taiba threatens to step up suicide attacks on security installations in J&K during Ramzan. On the same day, the army is ordered to relax the night curfew imposed in terrorism-prone areas of J&K. On November 10, the army is made to call off roadside frisking and checking during "the holy month" of Ramzan.
On November 7, JKLF commander Nazir Ahmad Sheikh alias Gul Danter, and Hizbul Mujahideen commander Mohammad Ayub are set free on bail. Both were facing terrorism charges since 12 years.
Why are terrorists held in jail when they should have been put to sleep years ago...?
Wish I could say I've no clue. But we know the role that politicians, the judiciary, and the human rights industry play in national security, don't we? (Don't forget, the NHRC is chaired by a retired judge.) If terrorists aren't instantly processed and dispatched to a suitable place, why blame the security forces for doing what the people want them to do? The Ansal Plaza jihadis were Pakistani Lashkar terrorists and without valid travel documents --- there are no two opinions on that. So why should it matter how they were killed?

What is the message that India gives to the world at large?

For starters, we gave Pakistan a chance to say about the Ansal Plaza shoot-out: "We think, as has been extensively reported in the Indian media, the so-called incident was a fake encounter. Obviously, Pakistan cannot accept the fake evidence invented by the Delhi Police. So, we reject the Indian contention that the so-called terrorists were Pakistani nationals."

Mission accomplished: That should make Kuldip Nayar and his Wagah Candelabras very happy campers, indeed!

Compare Atal Bihari Vajpayee's response to the hijacking of IC-814 with Vladimir Putin's reaction to the Chechen jihadis' hostage-taking at the Palace of Culture. Aboard the plane were 155 people; in the Moscow theatre were some 900 people. Even so, the Kremlin made only one counter-offer --- that the jihadis' lives would be spared if they freed the hostages --- and had the special forces gas them, killing 116 hostages but saving over 700. Simultaneously, Russian army units began combing the Chechen republic for jihadis. And that was that.

What is the message that Russia gave to the world at large...?

Simple: "Don't Mess With Spetsnaz" --- the special operations forces (in Russian, "spetsialnogo naznacheniia"), which ultra-elite units exist not only in the army, but in all of Russia's "force ministries" as well. They are directly subordinate to the President, and act on his orders or on the orders of officials who have been given special authority by the commander-in-chief. Oh, didn't you know, President Putin is from a Spetsnaz background (no, this information ain't on the net; it came to me from an Indian Army special ops guy). A single-minded concern for the country's security is what separates jilebiwalas from Presidents.

In October 2001, after the car bomb attack on the J&K Assembly in which 37 people were killed, Sanjeev Chibber, the spokesman for the families of the hostages aboard IC-814, admitted that he was behind the pressure on the government: For a week, the families held protest vigils outside the PM's residence, gatecrashed government briefings and demanded that the government accept the terrorists' demands. "I feel now that there should not have been any negotiation. Masood Azhar should not have been released... I didn't know who Masood Azhar was but I have read up on him and realized who he is."

Rina Dhaka recalled a Kargil martyr's widow who had said Azhar should not be released: "At that time, I thought she was crazed, insensitive. Now, I'm not so sure," she said.

Preeti Grover winced, "They should not have listened to my tears. Can you imagine we had him in our prison and then unleashed him? I was thinking of my husband but what about the families of those who have now been killed in the Valley?"

The insurgency in Kashmir began in 1989, and a decade later, these people still didn't know who Masood Azhar was and what would be the consequences of releasing him! These are the "educated" people who read newspapers, on the basis of which they elect governments and make the nation. Any reason to wonder why our successive governments acted as they did? A pathetic, uninformed people make for a feeble nation. Therefore, any reason to question why America rejected as "damaged goods" former Chechen president Maskhadov, whom it had previously viewed as a potential negotiating partner with the Russians? Any reason to speculate why America felt that Maskhadov should be excluded from any peace talks --- even as it endlessly asks India to negotiate with Musharraf...?

If you still don't get it, here's a clue to what we really are and how other nations perceive us: "Vikas Sharma, 22, is quite proud that he broke the gate of Rajiv Gandhi Bhavan as part of the demonstration [for the release of Azhar]. 'If it happens again, we would have to exchange a terrorist again,' he said." Apna hi sikka khota....


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Our Indian govt. and especially the media is so pathetic when it comes to handling terrorism. I really thought that we Indians (our govt. that is) have always been fans of Russia and not USA. But when Russia recently sent a strong message to jihadis... what did we do?? Just the other day we released one more militant -

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Yasin Malik freed from prison

Separatist leader Yasin Malik was freed from prison on Monday as part of attempts by Jammu and Kashmir Chief Minister Mufti Sayeed to restore peace in the region, an official said.

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When Arun Jaitley spoke, I finally knew there was ample reason to be sceptical of what happened in the basement of Delhi's Ansal Plaza last Sunday.
Not that there were not already enough reasons. Two men are killed as they turn up at the city's busiest shopping mall. They are carrying diaries that detail their movements and contacts. They are carrying a mobile phone whose usage is traced and, to nobody's surprise, calls were made from it to Pakistan. The SIM card in the phone was bought using identification papers issued in, to nobody's surprise again, Jammu & Kashmir. Therefore, they are terrorists. The country's home minister announces, within hours of the incident, that the two men were from Pakistan.

If convenient diaries and phone, and a home minister's speedy conclusions, are not enough to raise questions, there's the unfolding drama about the "eyewitness" to the incident, a Dr Hari Krishna. He told the press that the two men could "barely walk and were unarmed", that "no gunfight took place and that it was the police which did all the firing" (The Times of India, Nov 6); that the two "were mercilessly beaten up before being shot" (Onkar Singh, rediff.com, Nov 5); that the entire event was "stage-managed" (The Times of India, Nov 8). Dr Krishna's account prompted a petition to the NHRC, which asked for an investigation of the killings and for police protection to be given to him.

A day later, having set the cat firmly among the canaries, Krishna refused to talk about it any more, making this refusal to STAR News by "phone from an undisclosed place". He also said that "although security has been provided to me, I see no threat or harassment from the Delhi police" (still The Times of India, Nov 7). Meanwhile, the police claimed that his medical degrees could be "fake, but we are inquiring", and that he had three cases registered against him this year for "cheating and lying" (The Indian Express, Nov 8). Most intriguing of all: despite having given this man protection, as he himself acknowledges, as the police commissioner himself confirmed in writing to the NHRC, the police claim he is "absconding" (still The Indian Express, Nov 8).

Exactly whom are they "protecting" if Krishna is "absconding"?

How is it possible for anyone to digest all this murkiness without a single question about what happened that night? But if you still prefer to remain question-free, there's Arun Jaitley, spokesman for the BJP. He described the petition to the NHRC as an effort "to discredit the security agencies".

This is a thoroughly empty drum that political and other bosses have become adept at beating. When his Punjab Police hockey players assaulted their Indian Airlines opponents with their sticks during the 1996 Aga Khan hockey tournament, breaking some heads, K P S Gill refused to take action against them because, he said, it would lower the morale of both the team and the Punjab Police itself. Tehelka's expose of corruption among defence personnel, George Fernandes told the Venkataswami Commission, would dispirit soldiers, the army, and the whole country. And now it's Jaitley's turn to try to suppress questions the same way.

By now I know what to think when I hear this drum: there are indeed reasons to be sceptical. That applies here, even if there had been no eyewitness and his antics. For, in truth, it is not the murkiness surrounding the Ansal Plaza killing that makes questions inevitable. It is instead the record our "security agencies", and their political masters such as Jaitley, have built for themselves that begs questions; that heaps discredit on them.

Take just one example: the aftermath of the infamous massacre of 36 Sikhs in Chattisinghpora in March 2000.

The killers of the Sikhs "wore combat fatigues, waved a bottle of liquor around, told their victims that they had come to celebrate the Holi festival, and left shouting pro-India slogans" (Praveen Swami, Frontline, Nov 25, 2000). Five days later, the army and the police's Special Operations Group killed five men in the village of Panchalthan and announced that these were the "militants" who had carried out the slaughter of the Sikhs. The bodies were dressed in army clothes.

Almost immediately, local residents began to suspect that the five were no militants, but among a group of 17 people who had been rounded up after Chattisinghpora, 12 of whom were released. Another few days later, these villagers took out a large procession to make this point and to demand the release of the five bodies. Security agencies fired on this procession in the village of Brakpora, killing eight more people, including the son of one of the five killed in Panchalthan. (An inquiry --- the Pandian Commission --- later recommended that the security men responsible for these eight deaths be charged with murder).

The next day, the five bodies were exhumed, identified by relatives, and returned to their families.

With me so far through this tragic mess? It gets messier.

One odd aspect is that there is considerable doubt about even the process via which the bodies were identified. The son of one of the dead men identified his father by a gap in his teeth, caused by a tooth extraction some years before; however, he was unaware that the dead man had other such gaps in his teeth too. Another dead man was identified by the clothes stuffed into a bag lying next to him; he was wearing another shirt. Is it credible that soldiers, who presumably forced the man to change his clothes, then left the ones he took off lying conveniently in a bag next to the corpse?

With these and other oddities, Praveen Swami concluded in Frontline that "it is clear that the kin-identification of corpses was ... decidedly peculiar".

But it gets more peculiar still. Because even given dodgy identifications, the authorities' own subsequent behaviour left no doubt that the five were wrongly killed.

In August 2000, the police arrested two men who they claimed were the "main accused" in the Chattisinghpora massacre. According to Inspector General of Police P S Gill, one of the two, Mohammad Suhail Malik, belonged to the "murderous pack" that killed the Sikhs (PTI, August 31, 2000). Neither Gill nor any other policeman made any mention of the five dead men on whom they had pinned the same crime back in March. The two were produced at a press conference, but reporters were not allowed to question them because Gill said "it would hamper their investigations" (The Times of India, Sept 1, 2000).

Meanwhile, as a result of that fired-upon demonstration in Brakpora, the state government agreed to send DNA samples of the dead five and of their relatives for testing. In March 2002, The Times of India reported that the labs that were asked to carry out the tests replied that the samples were faked. Three of them, supposed to be from women relatives, were actually from men. "The samples had certain serious discrepancies," said Central Forensic Science Laboratory director V K Kashyap (rediff.com, March 12, 2002). Not only that, the labs had told the government this over a year earlier --- "We finished our investigations way back in December 2000," Kashyap explained --- but the government had simply sat mum.

Clearly, somebody from the security agencies, or from among their political masters, was desperate to disprove relatives' claims about those five men. Desperate, but predictably ham-handed.

In July this year, J&K CM Farooq Abdullah announced on the floor of the state assembly that the five men were innocent and that the DNA samples were fudged. He ordered --- what else? --- an inquiry into the whole sordid affair.

Forgive me, but right now my head reels too much to find out what has happened to that inquiry. Nor what has happened to the two men arrested in August 2000. Maybe another time. And the real tragedy is that, because of all this perversity, nobody knows for sure just who slaughtered those Sikhs to begin with.

Panchalthan and Ansal Plaza: put them side by side. Men are killed. Despite claims that they fought gun battles with security agencies, not one man from the agencies suffers even a scratch. Army uniforms here, diaries and a phone there, are convenient proofs of who the men are supposed to be: terrorists. Relatives and villagers raise doubts in one case; an eyewitness does so in the other. Both sets of doubts are themselves shrouded in doubt. And the more exalted the officials who seek to defend all this, the more intent they are to prevent questions because they "hamper investigations" or "discredit the security agencies".

Yet exalted as the Gills and Jaitleys are, ordinary common sense is not something they have in abundance. Because if they had, they would have known what the rest of us do: questions are like the Hydra monster. You cut off one, you raise dozens more.

Panchalthan or Ansal Plaza: if you're thinking about them, something the writer I F Stone once said is a good thought to start with. This is what he said: "Every government is run by liars and nothing they say should be believed."

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One hell of Mader(hod, want to earn some fast bucks and cheap publicity, okkie dont kill suspected terrorist, free all the terrorist inthe prision and let them kill this bastarrd family in somewhere in Vasant vihar posh banglow, then I'll see him asking justice by doing a dharna in front of home minister house
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Our Indian govt. and especially the media is so pathetic when it comes to handling terrorism. I really thought that we Indians (our govt. that is) have always been fans of Russia and not USA. But when Russia recently sent a strong message to jihadis... what did we do?? Just the other day we released one more militant -
agree with you admin..... I fully agree with you... yeh saala indian polititians terrorist ko palitical prisoners boal kur chhoad deta hai. phir log Bush se terrorist ko marne se pehle proof aur trial ka demand karte hein. In choootiyon (sorry, not your type) se poochho ki inki maa-behen pur jub terrorist attack karenge to inko kaisa lagega.

main to kehta hoon ki jo terrorist pakda jaaye usko maar do. jail mut bharo kyonkee phir koi plane hijack hoga aur terroist ko chhodna padega. jaan se maar do in jaanwaron ko
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One hell of Mader(hod, want to earn some fast bucks and cheap publicity, okkie dont kill suspected terrorist, free all the terrorist inthe prision and let them kill this bastarrd family in somewhere in Vasant vihar posh banglow, then I'll see him asking justice by doing a dharna in front of home minister house
The leftist pinkos of the likes of Dilip D'Souza and many in TOI have always presented arguments and opinions which sound as if they are very philosophical and righetous..

What you say is right.. Lets see what he does incase his own were hurt by terrorists!
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Our Indian govt. and especially the media is so pathetic when it comes to handling terrorism. I really thought that we Indians (our govt. that is) have always been fans of Russia and not USA. But when Russia recently sent a strong message to jihadis... what did we do?? Just the other day we released one more militant -
Came across this while searching for giant coin, Vishal Sikka (Copyright Shakti Pai). But Modi Sarkar seems to be better off on this from that Atal Sarkar.
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