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Old December 13th, 2012, 11:07 AM
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it clearly tells you that Balasaheb & Sena do not want trouble for undeserving ppl.
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Alrightie, my fervour for arguing about Thackeray has dissipated. You win! I know jack about Maha politics, so I got no clue what I'm doing in this thread arguing about Thackeray.

When he passed away, people had published obituaries and assessments about him, and I must have read at least a half dozen such opinion pieces, apart from news like how many millions had thronged to his funeral.

I don't like Thackeray's brand of politics, or his positioning of himself as an extra-constitutional authority. But I'm sure there are other politicians who are worse, even though they may not speak in the language of regional chauvinism.

I'll just make one last point here. You mentioned upthread about diversity being good, but it shouldn't change the basic identity and primary structure of society.

Nope. Doesn't work that way.

Demographic shifts are a part and parcel of life on earth. You go back far enough right in Maharashtra, and all there were were the Bhils and other adivasis. What if the adivasis start a violent movement trying to expel the "outsiders"?

Anyway, up above, I posted some data for you to look over. Find something interesting in that data? Whites dropped from some 75% in 1970 to some 45% in 2010, and this in a country that until the 1960's preferred only whites to immigrate into USA.

This kinda thing would have sent desi politicians into a tizzy. Should some California politician start a Bhumiputra (sons-of-the-soil) movement trying to expel the Indians there?
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Alrightie, my fervour for arguing about Thackeray has dissipated. You win! I know jack about Maha politics, so I got no clue what I'm doing in this thread arguing about Thackeray.

When he passed away, people had published obituaries and assessments about him, and I must have read at least a half dozen such opinion pieces, apart from news like how many millions had thronged to his funeral.

I don't like Thackeray's brand of politics, or his positioning of himself as an extra-constitutional authority. But I'm sure there are other politicians who are worse, even though they may not speak in the language of regional chauvinism.

I'll just make one last point here. You mentioned upthread about diversity being good, but it shouldn't change the basic identity and primary structure of society.

Nope. Doesn't work that way.

Demographic shifts are a part and parcel of life on earth. You go back far enough right in Maharashtra, and all there were were the Bhils and other adivasis. What if the adivasis start a violent movement trying to expel the "outsiders"?

Anyway, up above, I posted some data for you to look over. Find something interesting in that data? Whites dropped from some 75% in 1970 to some 45% in 2010, and this in a country that until the 1960's preferred only whites to immigrate into USA.

This kinda thing would have sent desi politicians into a tizzy. Should some California politician start a Bhumiputra (sons-of-the-soil) movement trying to expel the Indians there?
No sir, I am not trying to win or claim Balasaheb (or Sena) to be perfect. I said earlier that, from amongst all the Indian politicians & political parties, he & Sena are wayy better than others. A lalu may not slap anyone on face but he is capable of sucking blood from an entire state or a nation. Ghati & Madrasi politicians are corrupt of course but they r not vampires who suck so much that large sections of their populations do not have basic means of livelihood. Financial corruption is not the only form of corruption. There is a bigger evil form of corruption which is killing hope.

Bal Thackeray & Sena have done other much more important useful things other than just beating around people. Trust me on that.

About demographics, I dont know whether or not californian politician should start a bhoomiputra movement trying to expel Indians from there. But I wont be surprised if he does. Many may not mind or welcome it. But many may mind it beyond certain limits.
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Bal Thackeray & Sena have done other much more important useful things other than just beating around people. Trust me on that.
Okies, if you say so. That's more than enough from me, especially considering how little I know about Maha politics. Thank you for the discussion. Me out of this thread. We'll have to find something different to argue about.
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