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Bajirao mastani---Sanjay Leela bhansali's ambitious venture



So the story of the love of Bajirao and Mastani will be brought to life on celluloid by Bhansali . I am superexcited about the film since I am a maharashtrian brahmin like the great peshwa Bajirao .
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Sorry my history is a little bit weak, I don't know anything about Bajirao. I like period flims so will eagerly await the movie release. When does it come out?

I think its only going to cover grand love story going by Bhansali's previous ventures.
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Sorry my history is a little bit weak, I don't know anything about Bajirao. I like period flims so will eagerly await the movie release. When does it come out?

I think its only going to cover grand love story going by Bhansali's previous ventures.
exact date of release has yet to be decided---i think . it is still being made .

yes , it will cover only the love story aspect of baji rao without much covering the warrior aspect of his personality .
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Sorry my history is a little bit weak, I don't know anything about Bajirao.
he was peshwa ( chief minister) of king shivaji's grandson king shahu .

while shivaji was able to establish his kingdom only in maharashtra and small parts of south india , it was bajirao who carried the maratha tide into north india . this was after shivaji's death .

gujarat , malwa , bundelkhand , what is now known as chattisgarh and part of jharkhand and part of orissa was liberated from muslim domination by either baji rao himself or generals loosely under his command .
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I am superexcited about the film since I am a maharashtrian brahmin like the great peshwa Bajirao .
You mean you would like to have 2 wives as well. Gotcha brother Good for romance but life is short like Bajirao. I read up, he died at young age of 39, from a heat stroke.
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So the story of the love of Bajirao and Mastani will be brought to life on celluloid by Bhansali . I am superexcited about the film since I am a maharashtrian brahmin like the great peshwa Bajirao .
Let me know when they make a movie on Baji Prabhu... not Bajirao
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Let me know when they make a movie on Baji Prabhu... not Bajirao
there are marathi movies on him . but he wont make it to a bollywood film .
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Story of Mastani in short---

Baji Rao Ballal Balaji Bhat (Yes I know it's a very long name) was a respectable general who led troops during several wars in the 18th century. He was also a 'Peshwa', which is basically a Prime Minister.

He belonged to a Brahmin caste and everyone in his community had devoted their lives to priestly and other administrative duties. However, Baji Rao didn't go this way and decided the become in charge of the troops that would go out on wars with other kingdoms and emperors. He managed to expand the Maratha Empire.

Baji Rao was married to the much loved Kashibai. Kashibai had a great equation with Baji Rao's mother, Radhabai (She is the Kumud in this story, like every SLB film there has to be a Kumud, once upon a time Rekha's name popped up for this role) and his brother. They lead a happy life and they had two sons together.

The problem starts here:

Baji Rao falls in love with Mastani who was a Muslim girl. Her mother was a Persian called Ruhaani Bai. Ruhaani Bai was a court dancer. Her dad was the Maharaja of Chhatrasal. When his kingdom got threatened he asked the help of general Baji Rao who saved his family and kingdom. He gave his daughter Mastani as a present to him for the hard work he had carried out.

The other story of Mastani goes as follows and is more likely to be adapted by Bhansali:
Mastani was just like her mother a dancer in Chhatrasal's Palace. When he asked Baji Rao for help, Baji Roa met Mastani and fell in love and married her. Mastani was a fit girl, knew how to dance and sing and was also skilled in horse riding and spear throwing. Bhansali is looking for a fit girl that can manage difficult dancing sequences I assume.

Just when no one expected it he decided to take her as his second wife. She gets to live with her in-laws in the Shaniwar Wada palace. Baji Rao's mother, Radhabai was furious. How could he neglect Kashibai just like that? Not only his family, but everyone in Baji Rao's Brahmin community was unhappy.

Baji Rao made a lake for Mastani to bath in (Bhansali might make a song here) where she would bath with her friends.

Baji Rao made Kashibai and Mastani pregnant around the same time. Tensions rose high in the palace and both gave birth to healthy babies within months after each other. In the meantime Kashibai was kept being sidelined and Mastani's influence in the palace grew. However, Mastani's son was never considered a Hindu by the orthodox Hindu Pune community and was brought up as a Muslim and named Shamsher Bahadur.

Suddenly a devastated accident happened. Kashibai's child dies at a very young age and Mastani keeps getting more attention and influence. Mastani was younger than Kashibai and seeing her with a healthy son while Kashibai's child just died made her very unhappy. Not only develop the ladies some sort of jealousy, but Baji Rao's mother (Radhabai) and brother (Chimnaji Appa) try to make Kashibai hate Mastani more and more.

This results in many plans to kill Mastani which were mainly led by her own mother-in-law and brother-in-law. Kashibai gets also influenced and takes part in the plans and gets blamed for them when they fail. Baji Rao and Kashibai's son Balaji also tried to talk to Mastani and explain to her to leave. Mastani refused and when Baji Rao was away he decided to put her under house arrest.

Following this incident Baji Rao made a corner in the palace for Mastani, Mastani Mahal, and a separate doorway for her called Mastani Darwaza. Eventually he made a separate residence for her away from his family.

Baji Rao died of a sudden fever in Khargon during one of his trips towards Dehli with the company of 100.000 troops. Both Kashibai and Mastani go to Khargon to see his body. Baji Roa was cremated and Mastani commited suicide by drinking poising after this. A different version of the story says Mastani jumped in Baji Rao's funeral pyre and burnt to ashes with him (Sati). Her son Shamsher Bahadur is only six years old around this time. Kashibai decides to take Mastani's son and bring him up as one of her own.

http://shakuntela.blogspot.in/2014/0...o-mastani.html
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Looks like 'reverse Love Jihad'. Good insights doc ji. Probably this is going to be more interesting than the movie. Sanjay Leela Bhansali movies to me are good substitutes for sleeping pills except for "Hum Salman ko De chuke sanam", which was too irritating.

A question on Chhatrasal. There is aroad named after him in Delhi plus remember an Amar Chitra Katha cmic on him. Who was he and what was his contribution.
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Bajirao Mastani

Of all the Bhansali movies, HDDCS is perhaps the most popular. I found it average movie with lot of drama.

Adding hakla to bhansali's excessive drama results in a bad joke called Devdas, an utterly horrible movie.

Khamoshi (haven't watched), Black & Guzarish also had lot of drama but had their merits. I liked Guzarish & even Black in certain ways.

Music is however Bhansali's USP and even Devdas had good songs & dance numbers.

With that background, I did not have much expectation from Bajirao Mastani. May be lot of drama & good music.

However, its exceeded expectations & I learnt bit of history too. Drama is there but with substance (Drama without substance makes you laugh even in a tragic scene. Devdas is best example).

Ranvir as young Maratha warrior has excelled. Deepika as Mastani too. Priyanka as Kashibai, wife of Bajirao, too. Tanvi Azmi as Bajirao's mom too. And other Marathi characters have authentic touch (accent etc.). Aditya Pancholi, Milind Soman, Mahesh Manjrekar (as Chattrapati Shahu), Raza Murad (as nizam of Deccan) are apt.

The wars calls of Har Har Mahadev are great (No wonder the movie is banned in Pakistan).

A brave warrior Bajirao, torn apart by love for Mastani on one side and his family, kingdom & Maratha pride on the other, comes a cropper after scoring 100% strike rate in 41 battles he fought.

One song where Mastani sings & dances in Bajirao's darbar is excellently done.

The movie also shows secularism of Hindus. Mastani is a Muslim daughter from a polygamous Hindu king's Muslim wife. She continues to be one & her son is called Shamsher Bahadur. Goes to show that even notoriously stauch Hindus like Marathas were 'secular' enough & have no comparison whatsoever with peaceful kings or their ways.

Worth a watch on big screen
(I don't think it can be liked on small screen)
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Yes HDDCS is one of the best movies, but yes you can not compere bajirao mastani and HDDCS. Yes you can compere dilwale and bajirao mastani. If you are talking about dilwale and bajirao mastani, I must tell you that the which are more positive than dilwale

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Yes HDDCS is one of the best movies, but yes you can not compere bajirao mastani and HDDCS. Yes you can compere dilwale and bajirao mastani. If you are talking about dilwale and bajirao mastani, I must tell you that the which are more positive than dilwale
So, Mr. Typical 'Rahul Tina movies' lover, i would compare all 3 movies and would find all 3 of them as crap as compared to 'Gadar ek Prem Katha', 'The hero love story of a spy' and other old time classics like 'Numbri Aadmi', 'badle ki Aag' and 'Insaniyat ke Dushman'

On second thoughts, i dont want to insult a useful body function. So will stick with
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So, Mr. Typical 'Rahul Tina movies' lover, i would compare all 3 movies and would find all 3 of them as crap as compared to 'Gadar ek Prem Katha', 'The hero love story of a spy' and other old time classics like 'Numbri Aadmi', 'badle ki Aag' and 'Insaniyat ke Dushman'
I have relatives in Punjab who love the Deol family to death. I used to make my cousins cry out with tears.. all I had to say was 'Dharmender to boodha ho gaya, ab kya movie karega'

So when this 'The hero love story of a spy'.. brilliant movie came out, I was singing praises like who can do so many roles in one movie but Sunny and one not much known actor by the name of Sanjeev Kumar.. they all sensed my ridicule.. wasn't a pretty sight.

Less known trivia: It was Priyanka Chopra's debut movie
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