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JD (U) splits down the middle. Sharad Yadav moves out. 1 10.00%
This will a big jolt to BJP 2 20.00%
JD(U) will lose out heavily in Bihar on it's own. 0 0%
This is a good opportunity for BJP to expand in Bihar. 6 60.00%
Others. Pls. explain 1 10.00%
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Old April 14th, 2013, 08:44 PM
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Question What happens if BJP - JD(U) part ways?

BJP won’t dump Modi for Nitish, NDA headed for split
TNN | Apr 14, 2013, 11.59 PM IST



NEW DELHI: NDA on Sunday looked set to split in a few months after BJP virtually rejected Nitish Kumar's demand to rule out Narendra Modi as the party's prime ministerial candidate by the year-end and ignored the Bihar CM's warning that he would walk out of the opposition grouping if his wishes were not complied with.

Kumar's warning came in a hard-hitting speech aimed at Modi where he, without taking names, rejected the BJP leader's candidature for the powerful political office on the ground of lack of "secular" credentials and for pursuing a growth model which was exclusive and not humane.

"We have worked well under Atal Bihari Vajpayee and our coalition has run smoothly in Bihar, but we cannot compromise with our fundamental principles like secularism," Kumar said in his much-awaited address to the JD(U) national council.

He said Vajpayee deserved to be the PM because he believed in Raj Dharma or fair play: an allusion to the former prime minister's advice to Modi when he faced criticism of being biased in the handling of post-Godhra riots.

The party's political resolution, shaped by Kumar, also insisted that the BJP must declare a candidate and that too well in advance in order to eliminate the possibility of Modi being brought in surreptitiously either in the immediate run-up to the polls or afterwards. It said that the BJP, being the largest NDA constituent, should announce the name of its candidate "at the earliest and certainly before the end of the year".

BJP responded to the provocation by rallying around Modi and by admonishing Kumar for diluting the "focus of removing the UPA". "We reject all unfounded inferences against Shri Narendra Modi," the party said after an emergency huddle of its functionaries: a clear sign that the fear of loss of an important ally had failed to stem the growing momentum for Modi's projection as PM candidate.

'Modi can get 200 seats'

Party sources said Kumar's aggression may have only boosted Modi's claim to lead the party in the 2014 race. "Modi can propel the NDA to a tally of 200 seats. Why should we junk that for the sake of 20-odd seats in Bihar," a party general secretary said, reflecting BJP's defiance.

Kumar had said that the two parties which together won 32 of the 40 Lok Sabha seats in Bihar could sweep the state again if the BJP signed off on his "no-to-Modi" stand and kept "outside forces" — a reference to Modi — at bay.

Although the 17-year alliance between the two parties is unlikely to unravel swiftly and their coalition government in Bihar may limp along for some more time, both sides conceded that it looked damaged beyond repair. JD(U) sources said the split may happen much before December if Kumar feels the BJP was going to anoint Modi. The party authorized him and Sharad Yadav to take the final call at the appropriate time.

As a matter of fact, JD(U) sources said Kumar launched the frontal assault on Modi, which seemed to more than match the severity of Congress's regular attacks on the Gujarat CM, after BJP chief Rajnath Singh and party leader Arun Jaitley failed to assure him on Saturday night that Modi would not be projected as BJP's prime ministerial candidate.

"A diverse, pluralistic, multi-faith and multi-ethnic country can be led by only such person who has secular credentials and an inclusive outlook, and who can carry all sections of society," Kumar told his colleagues.

He did not mention Modi but the eligibility criteria, which was also emphasized through JD(U)'s political resolution that Kumar shaped, seemed especially designed to disqualify the Gujarat CM who has been accused of not stopping anti-Muslim violence on his watch in 2002.

The resolution stressed the PM candidate should "have secular credentials with no rough edges or divisive traits so as to inspire trust and confidence of a large diverse, pluralistic and multi-ethnic society like ours".

It further said, "Have governance ability for credible leadership to achieve inclusive social and economic growth" — again a skimpily veiled reference to the criticism that growth in Gujarat under Modi had not helped several sections, Muslims included.

In a speech which skipped any reference to UPA, Kumar picked apart each claim that Modi partisans have put forward to argue that he is PM material. He lampooned the "model" of growth where people did not get drinking water and where children suffered from malnourishment.

Echoing the criticism of Gujarat model for allegedly bypassing minorities and other vulnerable sections, he criticized the obsession with GDP and argued that growth must be accompanied by justice and the strategies should be humane.

The Bihar CM dismissed the argument that the country in order to grow faster needed a strong leadership that Modi alone could provide. "This country is too huge and diverse to be whipped into submission. People will heed those who are capable of showing love and affection and of taking everybody along," he said.

He also said that in a country marked by plurality and diversity, a leader ought to be sensitive to all. "He will have to do many things, including wearing cap": a clear reference to Modi's refusal to wear a skull cap offered to him by Muslims during his Sadbhavana Yatra. As against this, he cited how he was able to win over the confidence of Muslims who were initially not warm towards him.

Kumar argued that Gujarat had grown because of a culture which has historically been conducive to trade and because of geographical advantages like a coastline. In contrast, the growth in Bihar under him had happened from scratch. "We cannot ignore which state started from where when we compare their growth rates," he said, adding that policies followed in one state could not be replicated across the country.

The Bihar CM also referred to his confrontation with the BJP over Modi in 2010 when he prevailed over the BJP leadership not to let Modi campaign in his state. "At that time trouble was sought to be created, but no damage was done because my advice was heeded."

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/i...w/19548257.cms
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Re: What happens if BJP - JD(U) part ways?

Chewtiyon ke haath mein abhi raj gaddi bhi nahi aayi aur chale kaun raj-sandaas (like raj gaddi) mein hagega

Is India following Presidential system? No.

Do we really vote based on who will be PM? No.

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Are we going to hear on what the 125 crore manta wants or one leader holding 20-25 mp'sat max ?mind you , if Nitish splits , he is not going to be back in power in Bihar also due to vote split . this may lead to his party getting marginalized just like RJD or LJP now .


it's time to be bold for BJP.
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Re: What happens if BJP - JD(U) part ways?

What was Modi's role in 2002 riots?That seems to be the bone of contention between Modi and Nitish.
Nitish is ready to accept any other BJP leader,so they don't seem to disagree on principle.
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Re: What happens if BJP - JD(U) part ways?

Nitish has no enmity with Modi personally, but is instead worried that projection of Modi as PM will move away Muslim voters away from his party.

If the alliance splits, the next assembly elections there will show how much this viewpoint of his is correct in Bihar. Let the alliance break right now and Bihar go into snap polls.
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Nitish has no enmity with Modi personally, but is instead worried that projection of Modi as PM will move away Muslim voters away from his party.

If the alliance splits, the next assembly elections there will show how much this viewpoint of his is correct in Bihar. Let the alliance break right now and Bihar go into snap polls.
how is adwani ok for him?
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Re: What happens if BJP - JD(U) part ways?

Modi has no capability to become PM of the nation
Gujarat is Andheri Nagri and Modi is Gandu Raja there

BJP leadership is confused but off-course they are smarter than modi so in appropriate time they will dump modi's dream. Modi's popularity is more dangerous for BJP & for the nation than the Congress party.

at present congress is the only party which can run the nation on right path
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Modi has no capability to become PM of the nation
Gujarat is Andheri Nagri and Modi is Gandu Raja there

BJP leadership is confused but off-course they are smarter than modi so in appropriate time they will dump modi's dream. Modi's popularity is more dangerous for BJP & for the nation than the Congress party.

at present congress is the only party which can run the nation on right path
Marvi the official Kangressi returns .. with BS strewn all over his post.
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Modi has no capability to become PM of the nation
Gujarat is Andheri Nagri and Modi is Gandu Raja there

BJP leadership is confused but off-course they are smarter than modi so in appropriate time they will dump modi's dream. Modi's popularity is more dangerous for BJP & for the nation than the Congress party.

at present congress is the only party which can run the nation on right path
You have no capability to run a web site of your own.You are a total failure. So does that mean you cannot comment on Narendra Modi? No! Of course you can.

They say that Nitush Kumar has developed a completely rotten state like Bihar and what Narendra Modi has done is only improved further an already developed state like Gujarat. My argument is that one piece of dry 'roti' makes a starving person happy. But you need much more than that to make a fully fed person happy. Even one pucca road passing thru some casteist village of Bihar would make people there praise Nitish Kumar sky high. Narendra Modi had to on the other hand implement a world class BRT service in Ahemdabad to make his people happy.

BTW Narendra Modi is a total vegetarian. Nitish Kumar eats beef to please his Muslim electorate.

Just one more thing, you may want to change your avtaar, Ajay Devgan is a big Narendra Modi fan. Link
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The more you hate and spew venom at Narendra Modi, the more popular he gets. He's Rakta Beej.

There is no one spewing venom at Modi. Its the JDU and other cohorts of BJP who are having an acute case of piles about Modi.

That's why this is like the short lived Janta Party government many years ago - Abhi commode tayar nahi hua, chale sab hagne!
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It is unfortunate that men like Modi and Nitish must clash each other. This is the media's doing alongwith that of the Congress NGO cottage industry. All the hype about Modi's culpability for Gujarat riots 2002 was merely rhetoric for the brainwashed masses so they can serve as votebank for the congi cartel.

In a true progressive India, men like Modi and Nitish would have no quarrels or problem with each other. This fight is the result of Congi manipulation of the political spectrum with its tools of media, bribes, lies and corruption.
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Just one more thing, you may want to change your avtaar, Ajay Devgan is a big Narendra Modi fan. Link
In India we can have multiple choice... it can be different from person to person.. i.e. you love Modi who is not Gujarati whereas I am Gujarati but dislike him... Many people who like modi but hates Ajay Devgan who is a big fan of Modi... I am vegan who dislike Modi who is also vegan but he voted for sangama who is beef eater.. I like congress but hate SRK who likes congress... my family likes Modi also loves me who hates Modi... I hate all fundamentalist Muslims who also hates Modi and I ver much like bohra gujju Muslims who loves Modi a lot


And the irony is that.... FYKI: Ajay Devgan is going to contest in upcoming LS poll on congress ticket don't believe? Google it!
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In India we can have multiple choice... it can be different from person to person.. i.e. you love Modi who is not Gujarati whereas I am Gujarati but dislike him... Many people who like modi but hates Ajay Devgan who is a big fan of Modi... I am vegan who dislike Modi who is also vegan but he voted for sangama who is beef eater.. I like congress but hate SRK who likes congress... my family likes Modi also loves me who hates Modi... I hate all fundamentalist Muslims who also hates Modi and I ver much like bohra gujju Muslims who loves Modi a lot


And the irony is that.... FYKI: Ajay Devgan is going to contest in upcoming LS poll on congress ticket don't believe? Google it!
Modi is not Gujarati? and Modi loves you? and your thinking is like fundamentalists muslims?
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Modi is not Gujarati?
He meant that You ...who is not gujrati..... loves modi whereas marvi ...who is gujrati ... thali main chhed kar raha hai.

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He meant that You ...who is not gujrati..... loves modi whereas marvi ...who is gujrati ... thali main chhed kar raha hai.

Thanks!

Thali mein chhed? Is that Gujarat a thali of Modi or vice versa?

Well from now I shall try to not to hate Modi because his more and most haters exist in BJP & RSS itself.
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