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Old September 18th, 2018, 10:58 AM
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Stocks discussion

From Apple iPhone thread, I see there are many stock enthusiasts. I am sure others would like to learn from them.

1.) Is Apple stock going to be flat after the new launch? Last year it had gone up after launch. This year not so much.

2.) Why is GOOGLE going down?

3.) Will Amazon split? Will it be good if it does?

4.) What are some good stocks to buy right now?
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Old September 18th, 2018, 11:48 AM
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Tesla is going down after this report.

Last month, following Elon's announcement that he was considering taking the company private, Tesla received a voluntary request for documents from the DOJ and has been cooperative in responding to it," said a Tesla spokesman. "We have not received a subpoena, a request for testimony, or any other formal process. We respect the DOJ's desire to get information about this and believe that the matter should be quickly resolved as they review the information they have received.

Is it a good time to Buy Tesla then??
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Tesla is going down after this report.

Last month, following Elon's announcement that he was considering taking the company private, Tesla received a voluntary request for documents from the DOJ and has been cooperative in responding to it," said a Tesla spokesman. "We have not received a subpoena, a request for testimony, or any other formal process. We respect the DOJ's desire to get information about this and believe that the matter should be quickly resolved as they review the information they have received.

Is it a good time to Buy Tesla then??
seems Tesla is the most shorted stock... more people are betting on it failing than it succeeding.
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When a stock is shorted (not that I understand this term), who exactly loses I understand the person shorting can either win or lose. The question is for when the shorter wins. Conversely, if the shorter loses, who stands to gain
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If the stock falls, the “shorter” wins. Else the shorter loses.

BTW, the Tesla stock was up today.
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Doesn't explain my question. If somebody wins then correspondingly there should be someone who loses. In your explanation, you say if the stocks fall then "shorter" wins. Who is losing here? Where/who is the winner getting his money from
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When a stock is shorted (not that I understand this term), who exactly loses I understand the person shorting can either win or lose. The question is for when the shorter wins. Conversely, if the shorter loses, who stands to gain
Shorting, or short-selling, is when an investor borrows shares and immediately sells them, hoping he or she can scoop them up later at a lower price, return them to the lender and pocket the difference. But shorting is much riskier than buying stocks, or what's known as taking a long position.
So I am shorting Tesla at $220 . It takes 3 days to trade to confirm and in 3 days the stock falls to $210 . I will buy at $210 and deliver at $220 pocketing the difference of $10 per share.

If in 3 days stock goes to $250 ...... Meri gaand lag gayi......
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investors lose rs 3.62 lakh crore in 3 days in indian stock market---

https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/...w/65872678.cms
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Shorting, or short-selling, is when an investor borrows shares and immediately sells them, hoping he or she can scoop them up later at a lower price, return them to the lender and pocket the difference. But shorting is much riskier than buying stocks, or what's known as taking a long position.
So I am shorting Tesla at $220 . It takes 3 days to trade to confirm and in 3 days the stock falls to $210 . I will buy at $210 and deliver at $220 pocketing the difference of $10 per share.

If in 3 days stock goes to $250 ...... Meri gaand lag gayi......
Thanks... thoda samajh gaya but has given rise to more questions. So, the lender is not aware? Like, can anyone borrow my stocks without my knowledge and sell them? Or is it with full knowledge of all parties involved
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Thanks... thoda samajh gaya but has given rise to more questions. So, the lender is not aware? Like, can anyone borrow my stocks without my knowledge and sell them? Or is it with full knowledge of all parties involved
You are borrowing from brokerage so basically Fidelity or etrade. So for instance you are shorting Amazon . So let's say you shorted 100 share at today's rate of $1926. So you will get $192,600 in your account. Now in three days you will have to buy Amazon stocks. Let's say the price drops 5% to 1829.7. You will buy those stocks and you are left with a profit of $9700 . Not bad eh?
But let's say the price suddenly shot up to $2500 now you will have to buy them at 2500 per share so you will incur a loss of 57K. But let's say the stocks are not available in market due to high demand now you are liable for $192,600.

So it can wipe you out if you are not careful.
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BTW, the Tesla stock was up today.
huh? Why? Still under cloud about Musk's take-over tweets, musk still being sued... is this because the billionaire has come forward about his trip to moon?
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Doesn't explain my question. If somebody wins then correspondingly there should be someone who loses. In your explanation, you say if the stocks fall then "shorter" wins. Who is losing here? Where/who is the winner getting his money from
I dont think financial transactions necessarily have a loser for every winner or a winner for every loser.

its like - you buy a flat for 100k, then sell it for 500k in 5 years you are winning out 400k... lets say the person buying was getting a quote of 600k for similar flat in same building. so him buying yours for 500k is a win for him too....

if you are shorting a share and winning, the person/s you buy it from, might have got the same share for cheaper so they have also won by selling their shares and you have won by shorting.
the broker has won his commission - so everyone wins
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I dont think financial transactions necessarily have a loser for every winner or a winner for every loser.

its like - you buy a flat for 100k, then sell it for 500k in 5 years you are winning out 400k... lets say the person buying was getting a quote of 600k for similar flat in same building. so him buying yours for 500k is a win for him too....

if you are shorting a share and winning, the person/s you buy it from, might have got the same share for cheaper so they have also won by selling their shares and you have won by shorting.
the broker has won his commission - so everyone wins
You are what they call a half glass full optimist.. In financial markets this is never the case.. when someone wins someone is always losing.. it is a zero sum game.
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thanks to Mr Trump and Turkey?
It is how you present and what numbers you use. The Sensex after losing 1000 points is still 3000 points more than it was in Jan. That is 11 lake criers (lakh crores- but Autocorrect looks funny so keeping it) for investors. Anyone jumping into sticks should not cry over losing money.
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