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Muslims have ‘special burden’ to track down Islamist extremists, UK’s David Cameron says

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LONDON: David Cameron has said that Muslims have a "special burden" to track down Islamist extremists.

The Prime Minister's official spokesman confirmed Cameron agreed with culture secretary Sajid Javid who on Sunday had said it was "absolutely fair to say that there is a special burden on Muslim communities because, whether we like it or not, these terrorists call themselves Muslims."

Speaking on Radio 5 Live, Javid added that it was "lazy" and "wrong" to say that France's terror attacks had nothing to do with Muslims.

Cameron's spokesman said: "He would agree with the points that the secretary of state for culture, media and sport was making."

"One of the things we should bear in mind is that it is that community whose religion is being warped and it is families in that community who are having to face the fact that a small number of their relatives, often strongly against their wishes, are travelling to join radical groups."


British secretary of culture Sajid Javid near Humayun's Tomb during his visit to New Delhi on October 15, 2014. (TOI file photo by Sanjeev Rastogi)

Downing Street also confirmed that Britain's security forces will replicate the Paris terror attacks in its counterterror exercises.

Fresh efforts to crack down on the smuggling of illegal firearms were also agreed at a meeting of intelligence and security chiefs chaired by David Cameron.

The talks follow the Prime Minister's return from France where he joined world leaders on Sunday on a unity rally joined by more than one million marchers in Paris.


French President Francois Hollande along with head of states including (L to R) Israel's Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, Mali's President Ibrahim Boubacar Keita, Germany's Chancellor Angela Merkel, European Council president Donald Tusk and Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas at the Paris rally.

Downing Street said future counterterror exercises, which are held regularly across the country, would be modified to "learn the lessons" of the French atrocities.

That will include how to respond to coordinated attacks such as the wave of bombings and shootings in crowded areas of Mumbai that left 164 people dead in 2008.

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The Charlie Hebdo killlers, Said and Cherif Kouachi, were in contact with Amedy Coulibaly, who murdered a policewoman and four people at a kosher supermarket.

The exercises will also focus on combating terrorist action when the perpetrators are on the move between urban and rural areas.

The Kouachi brothers fled to woods outside Paris before being cornered and shot by police.

Cameron said on Sunday that Britain faced the same threat as France from a "fanatical death cult of Islamist extremist violence".


Hundreds of thousands marched through Paris streets on Sunday in solidarity with the French terror attacks victims.

He added: "We have to confront it in our own country, keeping our security strong but also taking on this poisonous narrative that is radicalising young minds, wherever we find it."

After Monday's talks, a Downing Street spokesman said: "Following an intelligence update, they discussed the UK's preparedness for similar incidents.

"The relevant police and agencies regularly carry out exercises to test their response to a terror attack, including scenarios similar to the incidents in Paris.

"The meeting agreed that for future exercises, the relevant agencies should identify whether there are any further specific elements of the Paris attack that should be built into the exercise scenarios."

The Prime Minister also asked the police and military to continue to work closely together to ensure that the police can call on appropriate military assistance when required across the country."

The spokesman added: "They also discussed the risk posed by firearms, agreeing that our existing tough firearms laws are a very important part of the protections we have and that we should step up our efforts with other countries to crack down on the illegal smuggling of weapons across borders."
Imagine the consequences if any Indian or especially any BJP leader had said the same words, they would have been drawn and quartered by the media and secular parties. They keep quiet about UK because the beggars need visas for their next vacation there or to go and kiss ass of their paymasters.

Screw pseudo secularism.
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Re: Muslims have ‘special burden’ to track down Islamist extremists, UK’s David Cameron says

That seems to be the correct view. The change should come from within the Muslim society itself.
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Re: Muslims have ‘special burden’ to track down Islamist extremists, UK’s David Cameron says

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That seems to be the correct view. The change should come from within the Muslim society itself.
Only, change is not permitted for laws and rules set in stone.
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Only, change is not permitted for laws and rules set in stone.
I guess recently the rules were set in crude oil, and the depression in crude prices will result in some leakage in the rules
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Re: Muslims have ‘special burden’ to track down Islamist extremists, UK’s David Cameron says

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Imagine the consequences if any Indian or especially any BJP leader had said the same words, they would have been drawn and quartered by the media and secular parties. They keep quiet about UK because the beggars need visas for their next vacation there or to go and kiss ass of their paymasters.

Screw pseudo secularism.
And something similar would happen if this character said something about Hindus. All the twiteratti would have told him to shut up.
Some leeway is given for people to comment on their own community.
And this guy seems to be a more sensible peaceful guy (by the virtue of being a conservative??). Let some peaceful fellows listen to him.

The original peaceful face of BJP, Sikandar Bakht also used to speak on these lines.
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And something similar would happen if this character said something about Hindus. All the twiteratti would have told him to shut up.
Some leeway is given for people to comment on their own community.
And this guy seems to be a more sensible peaceful guy (by the virtue of being a conservative??). Let some peaceful fellows listen to him.

The original peaceful face of BJP, Sikandar Bakht also used to speak on these lines.
Oh yeah, like only the sikhs have a right to crack sardarji jokes
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Re: Muslims have ‘special burden’ to track down Islamist extremists, UK’s David Cameron says

Apologists are the main reason UK and the West sees so much Islamic Terrorism.

Anyway ... for me it does not matter. I don't care .. I don't worry ... My views wont change the world, my views don't matter.
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Oh yeah, like only the sikhs have a right to crack sardarji jokes
It is moving like that nowadays. In the good old days when Sardarjis were actually proud of having these jokes some saying, 'only successful ones like Jews and Sikhs have such jokes'

Another example is Russel Peters, who keeps using 'Hey you brown guy' in all his shows. had a gora been doing this he would have been accused of being a racist.
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It is moving like that nowadays. In the good old days when Sardarjis were actually proud of having these jokes some saying, 'only successful ones like Jews and Sikhs have such jokes'

Another example is Russel Peters, who keeps using 'Hey you brown guy' in all his shows. had a gora been doing this he would have been accused of being a racist.
RSS, BJP Training Camps Promoting Hindu Terrorism: Home Minister


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JAIPUR| NEW DELHI: Home minister Sushil Kumar Shinde on Sunday tarred BJP and RSS with the terror brush when he accused them of organising camps to train Hindu subversives, sparking off a political row. "...we are trying to bring peace in this country. Sometimes, there is injustice to minorities. But we have got an investigation report that be it RSS or BJP, their training camps are promoting Hindu terrorism. We have an eye on those things as well," Shinde said at the AICC session in Jaipur, where the party is holding its 'Chintan Shivir'.
He said bombs were planted in Samjhauta Express, Mecca Masjid and a blast was carried out in Malegaon. "We will have to think about it (Saffron terrorism) seriously and will have to remain alert," he said.



Minutes later, under attack from BJP and RSS, Shinde tried to pass the buck to reports in the media. Congress leader Mani Shankar Aiyar backed Shinde saying he has underlined an open secret. "I am 100% with Shinde on this. This isn't a secret. I want to thank the home minister for saying what everyone knows, but do not have the courage to say."
BJP demanded an immediate apology. Leader of Opposition Sushma Swaraj said: "Home minister must apologise to the nation for his comments... Saffron is the antonym of terrorism. Saffron is the symbol of our traditions, culture, renunciation and sacrifices."
BJP president Nitin Gadkari said "government has no interest in curbing terror...it would target RSS for political motives".
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RSS, BJP Training Camps Promoting Hindu Terrorism: Home Minister

JAIPUR| NEW DELHI: Home minister Sushil Kumar Shinde on Sunday tarred BJP and RSS with the terror brush when he accused them of organising camps to train Hindu subversives, sparking off a political row. "...we are trying to bring peace in this country. Sometimes, there is injustice to minorities. But we have got an investigation report that be it RSS or BJP, their training camps are promoting Hindu terrorism. We have an eye on those things as well," Shinde said at the AICC session in Jaipur, where the party is holding its 'Chintan Shivir'.
He said bombs were planted in Samjhauta Express, Mecca Masjid and a blast was carried out in Malegaon. "We will have to think about it (Saffron terrorism) seriously and will have to remain alert," he said.
is madarbhagat se to written apology li thi bjp ne.. aur woh bhi content approve karva ke. And they wonder if Kangress is seen as anti-Hindu.
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