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My dear friends, we come across gems of posts which made us appreciate the poster. Posts which gladdened our hearts. We felt proud to belong to an elite and select group of extra-ordinarily intelligent men and women. You couldn't help but feel good at being in the company of people who are not only highly educated but also well informed and knowledgeable.

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I don't think 'koorm' here is Vishnu's avatar....remember after manthan Vishnu took Mohini roop and made Asurs drink Vish, instead of Amrit... Rahu and Ketu survived because they sat among Devs....

One of the theories in Hindu mythology suggest that earth is placed on the back of a huge turtle...and samudra manthan took place long before Mahabharat and Ramayan{correction: Wiki says it is mentioned in these epics].... Indra got Airavat and Urvashi after manthan.... and Urvashi (or was it Rambha) proposed to Arjun later.

I don't know if the whole story is depicted on any other temple's walls but there is a village in Bihar where almost every house has a mythological story carved on its outer walls... I remember seeing Samudra manthan and Bali-Sugriva yuddha in one of the houses.

from wiki:
The nectar of immortality
Finally, Dhanvantari, the heavenly physician, emerged with a pot containing amrita, the heavenly nectar of immortality. Fierce fighting ensued between devas and asuras for the nectar.

To protect the nectar from asuras, devas hid the pot of nectar at four places on the earth - Prayag (Allahabad), Haridwar, Ujjain and Nasik. At each of these places, a drop of the nectar spilled from the pot and it is believed that these places acquired mystical power. A Kumbh Mela is celebrated at the four places every twelve years for this reason.

However, the Asuras eventually got hold of the nectar and started celebrating. Frightened, devas (demigods) appealed to Vishnu, who then took the form of Mohini. As a beautiful and enchanting damsel, Mohini distracted the asuras, took the amrita, and distributed it among the Adityas, who drank it. One asura, Rahu, disguised himself as a deva and drank some nectar. Due to their luminous nature, the sun god Surya and the moon god Chandra noticed the switching of sides. They informed Mohini. But before the nectar could pass his throat, Mohini cut off his head with her divine discus, the Sudarshana Chakra. The head, due to its contact with the amrita, remained immortal. To gain revenge on the sun and moon for exposing this, the immortal head occasionally swallows the sun or the moon, causing eclipses. Then, the sun or moon passes through the opening at the neck, ending the eclipse.
The story ends with the rejuvenated Adityas defeating the asuras.


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As per the legend, Maharshi Durvasa cursed Indra that he would lose his powers. So Brahma told Indra to perform the Samudhra Manthan in order to retrieve amrit. The asuras and devas churned the ocean using a snake called Vasuki and a mountain called Mandara. At first, a poison called Halahala emerged. Shiva drank that poison which stuck in his throat and that is why he is called Neelkantha. Then, Vishnu intervened, in the form of a Kurma or turtle, and sat below the mountain in order to facilitate the churning. The churning was successful and things started to emerge - Kamadhenu (cow), Ucchaisrava (the white horse), Airavata (elephant), Kalpavriksha (wish-granting tree), Ratnas (gems), Kaustabha Mani (the most precious diamond). Finally, Dhanvantari emerged, holding a golden kumbh filled with amrit. The devas and the asuras fought to get possession of the amrit. During their battle, drops of amrit fell at four places: Prayag, Haridwar, Ujjain and Nashik. Kumbh Mela is observed at these four locations, every four years.

One may think that these are mythological stories and are not relevant to the present times, but that would be belittling the intelligence of our ancestors.

In my opinion, the "Samudhra Manthan" is an artistic depiction of extremely significant events in the history of civilization.

Just imagine, prior to the Vedic era, humans lived a nomadic and tribal life as hunters and gatherers. They lived in small communities like a herd. Their religious practices were probably animistic.

Then came the true seers - Rishis and Munis - like Maharshi Atre and the saptarishi who tried to organize society by creating divisions of labor. They create four castes, based on four important activities. Segregation of duties is an exceptionally important function from an anthrological/sociological point. Now farmers could be farmers and warriors could be warriors. We take this for granted now, but in those times, it would have been a historic event. The caste system would have transformed a nomadic/tribal civilization into a thriving, prosperous kingdom and unleashed a wave of growth and prosperity across the world.


The common perception is that the Samudhra Manthan was some kind of celestial event…something spiritual! Bullshit. It was an economic model. To understand the Samudhra manthan, you have to travel back in time, a time when trade was done only in the form of barter. Barter means give and take - you give me tomatoes and I will give you potatoes.

This system may have worked in a local economy, but one cannot conduct inter-kingdom trade using a barter system. This was the time when the ship had just been invented. The traders wanted to sell their goods and wares to partners across the oceans – the Asuras.

By the way, the Asuras were NOT demons. They were the Persians or Zoroastrians. You see, the Zoroastrians had a tendency to pronounce the s as h. They called themselves as Ahuras, and named their religious text as Ahura Mazda. Their nemesis were the ‘daevas’.

The fact is, the word Hindu is also a Persian term to define the collection of religions practiced on the eastern side of the river Sindhu. None of our ancient texts ever use the word ‘Hindu’ anywhere!

It's possible that the the Indian king (Indra was probably a designation rather than a person) gathered Indian traders and the Persian traders together to negotiate terms of trade – not a celestial event but definitely a major milestone in the history of humanity. The world needed a common monetary unit that could be a store of value. These discussions were probably extremely confrontational and ended in wars.

So, they engaged a neutral arbitrator, Kurma, to facilitate the negotiations. He started the first workable monetary system – the system of using ‘cows’. The ‘Satapatha Brahmana’ is replete with shlokas on how to price goods in terms of number of cows. This system was a huge success. It provided a common platform to trade. Cows are very unique animals. They are easy to domesticate, prduce valuable milk from grass and chaff, provide manure and fuel, and provide leather. Bulls help with farming. Basically, a household that has a herd of cows and a farmland can be completely self-sufficient. Cows, because they were money, became sacred. Even today, it is considered blasphemous to kill a cow. It is like destroying money!

Over time, other parallel systems started to emerge based on domestic conditions. The Persians started trading in Horses. Other kingdoms started trading in elephants and tree trunks. Some kingdoms started trading women as money, calling them Apsaras! Apsaras, although considered to be beautiful women, are not revered.

It is easy to see why trading in livestock could become a disaster after a while. It is difficult to trade in large quantities and the wealthier you get, the more problems you have in maintaining the livestock.

Then, Kurma, with the help of the Brahmins, came up with a system to trade in precious stones. This proved to be a much better monetary system than livestock. Diamonds and rubies were easier to carry and a lot easier to store. Wealth could be passed on from generation to generation. However, there were other problems with this system. The grades of stones could vary dramatically and it was easy to get duped.

Finally, Kurma came up with a monetary system that was based on a gold standard. Gold, an inert and noble metal, was easy to carry and store. Gold could be easily validated with the king’s royal seal. Gold coins could be of varied denominations. Above all, women love gold.

This was it – an immortal monetary standard was created. Trade flourished and everyone got immensely wealthy. That was the symbol. Emerging from the ocean, carrying the golden pot full of Amrit, was the divine DHANVANTARI (the possessor of wealth). Even today, Dhanteras is celebrated by traders all over India. This was the day the gold standard was established.

The Brahmins organized a trade fair once every four years, the Kumbh mela, at strategic locations to allow for traders to come in from all directions. The purpose was for the traders from across the world to display their goods and wares and learn about new products and techniques from the Brahmins, just like any modern day fair!

As a token of appreciation, the traders donated gold to the Brahmins, symbolized by the drop of amrit at the Kumbh mela.
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Link to the thread containing post # 2 and 3.
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Post # 2 and 3. We were not taught these things in school. I knew none of this. I cant recall ever having read books which described these events. How can one not appreciate knowledge of such depth, even if some of us believe these to be mythological stories.

I am amazed at the level of interest and knowledge of two posters. An honor to be in company of such members.
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Thought Id let ya know Shivaji's non-military achievements -

He established the Doctrine of an Artistic God. ("Chitrakaar Dev"). According to that doctrine, God the painter created several paintings - Hinduism, Budhism, Islam, etc. Ridiculing any one painting is like questioning the skills of the Painter. This was a full 100 yrs before Jeffersons "seperation of state and religion". His main door read "EEshwar Kripa" as against the traditional "Ram Kripa" - nearly 200 yrs before Lincoln and Stewart changed US currency from "In Jesus we trust" to "In God we trust".

In his coronation there was a controversy becos he had to take oath with God as a witness. He took oath as "God as witness, Mother's blessings and people's permission"- 90 years before Thomas Paine's "Governments are constituted ...... with the consent of the governed."

He wrote to Santokji Angre (a naval genius) to "make sails of various shapes and test them out and select the best". This might seem nothing great today - infact obvious. But at that time "experimentation" was unknown. This was his contribution to the "age of experiments", tho small.

That time Indian judiciary was hierarchical with judge-rajah-grandvazier-emperor as hierarchy. He changed it and made it process-based - the concept of "due process" and "issue of warrants". This was about 20 yrs after it was introduced in England. Whether he was influenced by developments in England or arrived by himself is unknown.

He called all the traders and asked the old and retired traders to establish a 'formal school'. This was unthinkable at that time as schools taught the religious texts, statecraft and military stuff, poetry etc. The Brahmins were miffed. In effect he started what could be called as an MBA education. The endevour failked however as he was taken prisoner by the Mughals in Treaty of Purandhar. On escaping, he never restarted (dunno exactly why)
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Brahmchariji ...

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I tried it sometimes back and it works great. But due to extreme busy schedule I have stopped practising it. I remember one formula though which say:

Ekaadhiken Poorven (One more than the last) it can be applied in many instances like if you want to find out square of any number which is ending in a 5. Lets take for example 95. If we need to find out square of 95, the process is:

1. Multiply last digit (i.e. 5) by itself and write somewhere (eg 25)
2. Add 1 to the remaining number (in this case the remaining digit is 9 and adding 1 more to it will produce 10)
3. Now multiply the remaining number with this derived number (i.e. Ek Adhik 10) and you will get 90.
4. Write 90 and product derived in line one side by side and that is the Sqaure you were looking for.

9025

any other number ending in 5 you can try using this formula:

155
5*5 = 25 (1)
15+1=16 * 15 = 240 (2)
Result = 24025 (2)(1)
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http://www.ics.uci.edu/~rgupta/vedic.html#one


Vedic knowledge is in the form of slokas or poems in Sanskrit verse. A number was encoded using consonant groups of the Sanskrit alphabet, and vowels were provided as additional latitude to the author in poetic composition. The coding key is given as Kaadi nav, taadi nav, paadi panchak, yaadashtak ta ksha shunyam Translated as below
letter "ka" and the following eight letters
letter "ta" and the following eight letters
letter "pa" and the following four letters
letter "ya" and the following seven letters, and
letter "ksha" for zero.
In other words,
ka, ta, pa, ya = 1
kha, tha, pha, ra = 2
ga, da, ba, la = 3
gha, dha, bha, va = 4
gna, na, ma, scha = 5
cha, ta, sha = 6
chha, tha, sa = 7
ja, da, ha = 8
jha, dha = 9
ksha = 0

For those of you who don't know or remember the varnmala, here it is:

ka kha ga gha gna
cha chha ja jha inya
Ta Tha Rda Dha Rna
ta tha da dha na
pa pha ba bha ma
ya ra la va scha
sha sa ha chjha tra gna

Thus pa pa is 11, ma ra is 52. Words kapa, tapa , papa, and yapa all mean the same that is 11. It was upto the author to choose one that fit the meaning of the verse well. An interesting example of this is a hymn below in the praise of God Krishna that gives the value of Pi to the 32 decimal places as .31415926535897932384626433832792.

Gopi bhaagya madhu vraata
Shrngisho dadhisandhiga
Khalajivita khaataava
Galahaataarasandhara
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Deshpremi ...

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How to use Mathematics?

Ever wonder about those people who say they are giving
more than 100%? We have all been to those meetings
where someone wants over 100%. How about achieving 103%?
Here's a little math that might prove helpful.

What makes life 100%? Let's use mathematics and logic
to figure it out!

If : A B C D E F G H I J K L M N O P Q R S T U V W X Y
Z is represented as:

1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21
22 23 24 25 26

Then,
L E A D E R S H I P: 12+5+1+4+5+18+19+8+9+15=96%

K N O W L E D G E: 11+ 14+ 15+ 23+ 12+ 5+ 4+ 7 +5 =
96%

and,

H A R D W O R K: 8+ 1+ 18+ 4+ 23+ 15+ 18+ 11 = 98%

But,

A T T I T U D E : 1 +20 +20+ 9 +20+ 21 +4 +5 = 100%

And,

B U L L S H I T: 2+ 21+ 12+ 12+ 19+ 8+ 9+ 20 = 103%

So, it stands to reason that Leadership, Knowledge,
Hard work will get you close, attitude will get you there,
but bullshit will put you over the top. So, the next
time someone claims to be giving over 100%, you know
what he is doing.
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Re: Copy/Paste REPOSITORY of GREAT AMAZING INFORMATIVE POSTS!

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Originally Posted by tantric_yogi View Post
Brahmchariji ...

copy/paste

I tried it sometimes back and it works great. But due to extreme busy schedule I have stopped practising it. I remember one formula though which say:

Ekaadhiken Poorven (One more than the last) it can be applied in many instances like if you want to find out square of any number which is ending in a 5. Lets take for example 95. If we need to find out square of 95, the process is:

1. Multiply last digit (i.e. 5) by itself and write somewhere (eg 25)
2. Add 1 to the remaining number (in this case the remaining digit is 9 and adding 1 more to it will produce 10)
3. Now multiply the remaining number with this derived number (i.e. Ek Adhik 10) and you will get 90.
4. Write 90 and product derived in line one side by side and that is the Sqaure you were looking for.

9025

any other number ending in 5 you can try using this formula:

155
5*5 = 25 (1)
15+1=16 * 15 = 240 (2)
Result = 24025 (2)(1)
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You don't even have to add....just multiply with the next number...for example 25^2 = (3*2)25 = (6)25 = 625....this and many other rules can be found in Trachtenberg method of rapid arithmetic

Why are you mixing up mythology and math in the same thread? what is so informative about mythology by itself...however, mythology coupled with plausible scientific explanation can be interesting...for that I have already started a thread that involved vigorous debate involving melly, rahulP pai and I...with occasional smattering from chitra
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