Aarushi was with Hemraj at the Bed: CBI

[Budmaas]

हेमराज के साथ बिस्तर पर थी आरुषि: CBI
आरुषि को नौकर के साथ बिस्तर पर देखा, गुस्से में किया राजेश तलवार ने कत्ल: CBI



आरुषि-हेमराज हत्याकांड मामले में जांच अधिकारी से जिरह खत्म हो गई है. जांच अधिकारी एजीएल कौल से कई सवाल किए गए. उनसे पूछा गया कि उन्होंने नुपूर तलवर को पहले क्यों नहीं गिरफ्तार किया? जवाब में कौल ने कहा कि उन्हें सीनियर अधिकारी ने नुपूर की गिरफ्तारी की मंजूरी नहीं दी थी. इससे पहले जांच अधिकारी ने यह साफ कर दिया था कि आरुषि और हेमराज की हत्या तलवार दंपति ने ही की है.
आरुषि-हेमराज मर्डर केस में डॉक्*टर दंपति राजेश और नुपूर तलवार पर शिकंजा कसता जा रहा है. सीबीआई ने कोर्ट में सीधे तौर पर कहा कि दोनों कातिल हैं. यही नहीं डबल मर्डर के बाद दोनों इसके सबूत भी मिटा दिए.

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[milanfanabhi]

this whole saga is disturbing and has so many unanswered questions.

Daughter sleeps with a much older servant...so father kills her and mother fights to prove his innocence.Shit what kind of world are these lunatics living in....

[Rakhi]

Originally Posted by Budmaas

हेमराज के साथ बिस्तर पर थी आरुषि: CBI
आरुषि को नौकर के साथ बिस्तर पर देखा, गुस्से में किया राजेश तलवार ने कत्ल: CBI



आरुषि-हेमराज हत्याकांड मामले में जांच अधिकारी से जिरह खत्म हो गई है. जांच अधिकारी एजीएल कौल से कई सवाल किए गए. उनसे पूछा गया कि उन्होंने नुपूर तलवर को पहले क्यों नहीं गिरफ्तार किया? जवाब में कौल ने कहा कि उन्हें सीनियर अधिकारी ने नुपूर की गिरफ्तारी की मंजूरी नहीं दी थी. इससे पहले जांच अधिकारी ने यह साफ कर दिया था कि आरुषि और हेमराज की हत्या तलवार दंपति ने ही की है.
आरुषि-हेमराज मर्डर केस में डॉक्*टर दंपति राजेश और नुपूर तलवार पर शिकंजा कसता जा रहा है. सीबीआई ने कोर्ट में सीधे तौर पर कहा कि दोनों कातिल हैं. यही नहीं डबल मर्डर के बाद दोनों इसके सबूत भी मिटा दिए.

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Did he confess? I was looking for the english version and cannot find.

[Budmaas]

Originally Posted by Rakhi

Did he confess? I was looking for the english version and cannot find.

Five years passed.
Indian Law & paid CBI is still investigating & making daily new story to sell it to MANOHAR KAHANIYA [a Hindi social Magazine].

[Rakhi]

Originally Posted by Budmaas

Five years passed.
Indian Law & paid CBI is still investigating & making daily new story to sell it to MANOHAR KAHANIYA [a Hindi social Magazine].

Initially i thought it could be the parents, but no, I dont think so any more.

[Budmaas]

Originally Posted by Rakhi

Initially i thought it could be the parents, but no, I dont think so any more.

Yes
they are as per CBI story.
& the story in summary - Daughter was in relation with servant & father heard the noise inside the bedroom & caught red handed. He killed both of them by polo stick.
Mother helped him in hiding the evidence & dead body.

[Rakhi]

Originally Posted by Budmaas

Yes
they are as per CBI story.
& the story in summary - Daughter was in relation with servant & father heard the noise inside the bedroom & caught red handed. He killed both of them by polo stick.
Mother helped him in hiding the evidence & dead body.

Such contradictory story by the very same CBI. From what i still remeber of the case:

1. Parents were on lie-detectors and what not, tested for truth in conscious, sub-conscious and UN-conscious stages. They were not involved in murder. They were not involved in murder according to those.
2. The clinic assistant, krishna I think, had confessed to be a part of the murder in the above lie-detectors but CBI cannot charge him based on that proof alone.
3. Every one concerned on bail.

Now this same story of Aarushi and Hemraj being in the same room re-surface.

[ungalprasad]

Originally Posted by Rakhi

Such contradictory story by the very same CBI. From what i still remeber of the case:

1. Parents were on lie-detectors and what not, tested for truth in conscious, sub-conscious and UN-conscious stages. They were not involved in murder. They were not involved in murder according to those.
2. The clinic assistant, krishna I think, had confessed to be a part of the murder in the above lie-detectors but CBI cannot charge him based on that proof alone.
3. Every one concerned on bail.

Now this same story of Aarushi and Hemraj being in the same room re-surface.

This is because the way window dressing was done after murder.. This can only be possible when parents are involved. They tried to remove all evidence. Parents were at home that night and there happend two murders. This can not be overlooked. They definatly had their role in those murders.

[Rakhi]

Originally Posted by ungalprasad

This is because the way window dressing was done after murder.. This can only be possible when parents are involved. They tried to remove all evidence. Parents were at home that night and there happend two murders. This can not be overlooked. They definatly had their role in those murders.

Parents being at home doesn't necessarily mean that they are involved. The AC's in the girls room as well as the parents room was on. CBI had specifically tested for any noise which can be heard in the parents room but none could be heard. It could very well be that the girl was gagged.

[ungalprasad]

Originally Posted by Rakhi

Parents being at home doesn't necessarily mean that they are involved. The AC's in the girls room as well as the parents room was on. CBI had specifically tested for any noise which can be heard in the parents room but none could be heard. It could very well be that the girl was gagged.

No.. Entire room was cleaned and evidences were removed. Blood stains were also removed before calling police. Parents are clearly hiding something so such stories coming out.. They definetly have role.

[Rakhi]

Originally Posted by ungalprasad

No.. Entire room was cleaned and evidences were removed. Blood stains were also removed before calling police. Parents are clearly hiding something so such stories coming out.. They definetly have role.

well, who cleaned it? Why do you assume that the parents cleaned it? Who ever had done the murders have cleaned them. Need not be the parents.

If they had any role at all, how come in both the lie-detectors in three states of mind establish that neither parents had any thing to do with this?
How come the clinic assistant confessed that he was involved in the murder?

[Napolean]

Originally Posted by Rakhi

well, who cleaned it? Why do you assume that the parents cleaned it? Who ever had done the murders have cleaned them. Need not be the parents.

If they had any role at all, how come in both the lie-detectors in three states of mind establish that neither parents had any thing to do with this?
How come the clinic assistant confessed that he was involved in the murder?

you mean there was somebody else at their residence who did it and then cleaned up?

[Rakhi]

Originally Posted by Napolean

you mean there was somebody else at their residence who did it and then cleaned up?

Yes. There was the clinic assistant krishna. He was reprimanded the day before the murder by Rajesh talwar for ordering a wrong part for his practice. He also happens to be friends with Hemraj. Hemraj invited him (I think there was another guy involved, forget his name) for drinks. After drinking, they all proceed to the girls room where Krishna tries to assault the girl. Hemraj protests. krishna and his accomplice then kill both.

He and his accomplice both clean up the room. Actually, blood was every where. What he was cleaning up was the evidence.

Initially, the wounds and cut on the girls throat was said to be inflicted by a blunt knife. Later it was said that the knife used is clinical and could have been gotten from the clinic. This again shows that Hemraj was as much a victim as Aarushi is.

This is not me saying...dont get any ideas that I am writing a crime based novel . This was the story said by CBI a while ago. This matches with Krishna's confessions on tests.

[Master Bates]

Lie detectors are useless and that is why their results are not admissible in court in most of the world.

The results of a lie detector have based on the subjective interpretations and skills of the person running the lie detector.

People can easily figure out which are test questions that set the standard physiological state of a person, a common trick is to squeeze your anal muscles or toes at these questions.

Here is a link that gives tips on how to beat the test: http://www.wikihow.com/Cheat-a-Polyg...(Lie-Detector)

[sanjayt]

Originally Posted by Rakhi

Yes. There was the clinic assistant krishna. He was reprimanded the day before the murder by Rajesh talwar for ordering a wrong part for his practice. He also happens to be friends with Hemraj. Hemraj invited him (I think there was another guy involved, forget his name) for drinks. After drinking, they all proceed to the girls room where Krishna tries to assault the girl. Hemraj protests. krishna and his accomplice then kill both.

He and his accomplice both clean up the room. Actually, blood was every where. What he was cleaning up was the evidence.

Initially, the wounds and cut on the girls throat was said to be inflicted by a blunt knife. Later it was said that the knife used is clinical and could have been gotten from the clinic. This again shows that Hemraj was as much a victim as Aarushi is.

This is not me saying...dont get any ideas that I am writing a crime based novel . This was the story said by CBI a while ago. This matches with Krishna's confessions on tests.

The crime scene was contaminated right at the very beginning. The neighbours went to watch the tamasha, and the Noida cops had no issues with that. All kinds of evidence must have been contaminated/lost right then.

It's futile trying to find the perpetrators now.

Moreover, to my utter amazement, some dimwit of the CBI (the lead investigator, no less!) was saying in court that he had wanted to press charges last time, but his superiors had ordered the case to be closed. Now they've changed their mind again. This is Round Three, by the way.

When asked to explain how a pillow with Hemraj's DNA was found at Krishna's residence, aforementioned numbskull went on to hypothesize that it was a typing error by the forensics dept that had done the testing. Typing error? Give me a fucking break. They're playing with people's lives here.

This, supposedly, is India's premier investigative agency. You can imagine how the rest are!