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Old June 12th, 2002, 08:09 AM
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Bhai mere gade murde kyon khodna. Jo 1949 mein ho gaya usse kya hoga? Baat toh ye hai ki aaj Samvidhan mein Rastra bhasha naam ki koi bhi cheez nahi hai.

We have something mentioned as "Raj Bhasha" which literally translates to official language not national language.

No where you can point in current constitution that Hindi is national language.
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Bhai mere gade murde kyon khodna. Jo 1949 mein ho gaya usse kya hoga? Baat toh ye hai ki aaj Samvidhan mein Rastra bhasha naam ki koi bhi cheez nahi hai.

We have something mentioned as "Raj Bhasha" which literally translates to official language not national language.

No where you can point in current constitution that Hindi is national language.
tum bhi yaar..abhi maine statement dikhaya to tum bolta haiN jo ho gaya woh ho gaya...???abey sirf tera woh "bane" waala statement vaapis le le bawa...
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aao aao thakur..nikal poison..jitna bhi haiN dil mein..nikalo....
hello boss. I am not the one taking out poison. Its you.. Please read all my posts. Not one place I oppose Hindi. Infact I know Hindi myself. Other wise i would not be to understand your post in Hindi.

I am just stating tha facts as they are. I have put links from the constitution. All i say is stop misleading people.

As i said, Language should be just used to communicate not to communalised. If people in TN does not want speak Hindi its thier lose.
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I am just stating tha facts as they are. I have put links from the constitution. All i say is stop misleading people.

where were u yesterday?u neva said that nowhere waz it mentioned yesterday??aaj nayi akkal aayi kya...???
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Language should be just used for commuication. It should not be a tool for Patriotism, especialy in India, where we have so many language.

Why should a person in South learn Hindi or English, if he is never going to use the language to communicate.

I know Hindi and many of my fellow southies know Hindi. I.e. because they need Hindi to communicate.

I would call it wrong to call a person "Un-Indian" just beacuse he does not know Hindi.




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Language should be just used for commuication. It should not be a tool for Patriotism, especialy in India, where we have so many language.

Why should a person in South learn Hindi or English, if he is never going to use the language to communicate.

I know Hindi and many of my fellow southies know Hindi. I.e. because they need Hindi to communicate.

I would call it wrong to call a person "Un-Indian" just beacuse he does not know Hindi.




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vaapis kaahe cut-paste maara bhai?maine tereku kya poocha aur tu kya chpka rela haiN??

and please folks..i have neva said in mah posts that not knowing or liking hindi amounts to being un-Indian...please..i have never said that...

mah only concern is this hatred for hindi...thats all
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where were u yesterday?u neva said that nowhere waz it mentioned yesterday??aaj nayi akkal aayi kya...???
DesiBaba, I know you had some bad expriences with some Southies. But that does not mean all southies are bad.
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DesiBaba, I know you had some bad expriences with some Southies. But that does not mean all southies are bad.
man..please...i have had some bad experiences,,true..but i have some best southi friends too..man,mah only concern is this hatred for hindi thats all!!!
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tum bhi yaar..abhi maine statement dikhaya to tum bolta haiN jo ho gaya woh ho gaya...???abey sirf tera woh "bane" waala statement vaapis le le bawa...
Chal yaar saare gile shikwe maaf. Gale mil. Phir se dost-dost. (background me tujhe koi fillum ka gaana sunai de raha hai kya?) maine koi ulti seedhi baat kiya ho to humka bhi maafi dei do thakur.

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Chal yaar saare gile shikwe maaf. Gale mil. Phir se dost-dost. (background me tujhe koi fillum ka gaana sunai de raha hai kya?) maine koi ulti seedhi baat kiya ho to humka bhi maafi dei do thakur.


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man..please...i have had some bad experiences,,true..but i have some best southi friends too..man,mah only concern is this hatred for hindi thats all!!!
you cannot solve a hatred with hatred. If the people from TN hate Hindi so be it. They are the one who stand to lose. But we have no right impose and make them love Hindi.

I think the days are better now, without language clashes. As long there is no public unrest we can let things be as they are.
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man..please...i have had some bad experiences,,true..but i have some best southi friends too..man,mah only concern is this hatred for hindi thats all!!!
No southie has hatred for Hindi language as such. Believe me I have knowledge of both the cultures as my mom is from south and dad from north.

The problem stems from what a southie feels like imposition of hindi (wrongly in many cases).

Not many people here would be aware that as a language Tamil is probably the second oldest language in India after Sanskrit. Tamil language has literature that dates back to about 500 BC. No other widely spoken language in India can boast that. And guys over there are very very protective about their culture and language. So when they see something as an attempt to make them lose their culture/language they get mad.

The problem started in 1965 when the constitutionally mandated 15 year period when English was supposed to be used as a link language expired. For a brief moment all Union government documents were only in Hindi, and that was perceived as an attempt to shove a language down people's throat. An agitation in TN and LB Shastry's foresight averted a crisis and English continues to be a link language.

And it was this foresight of Shastry that nipped in bud a seperatist movement in TN.

Finally remember it was language issue that gave birth to Bangladesh. So resistance to perceived imposition of language is not limited to South India alone.
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Not many people here would be aware that as a language Tamil is probably the second oldest language in India after Sanskrit. Tamil language has literature that dates back to about 500 BC. No other widely spoken language in India can boast that. And guys over there are very very protective about their culture and language. So when they see something as an attempt to make them lose their culture/language they get mad.
Kameena bhai, before getting mad on me, first read some of my post in thread, I am in favor of english as work/schooling language.

You are very much correct man, they get mad when they felt their culture getting lost, by instead why dont they open the gate for other people, I personally found them quite a closed door region, like Punjabi or say Gujrathi, who adopt anyone, mix with other culture and accept the best from others, they (tambies) always "pito the dhol" we are greatest, we are the oldest and we are real owner of India, or dravidian are Indian, they should let other explore their world and appreciate like Punjabi or Gujrathi culture.

Thanks god we have Tamil like Pelu pai and many of my great friends, but the only exception in those great tamil guys, they born and brought up in North
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No southie has hatred for Hindi language as such. Believe me I have knowledge of both the cultures as my mom is from south and dad from north.

Buddy, I went there for a vacation when I was in college. There were 36 of us, all ages (19-56). Initially we thought that it was only in Madras that we were having problems but its throughout the state (and the one next to it). We knew most of the people understood English but were not ready to respond. Only, in tourist places like Mahabalipuram etc. when it made business sense for them that they make an attempt to respond.

And this is not an attempt at bashing tamilians. They are super whizes when it comes to computers et al, it is widely acknowledged. But what is wrong is wrong, you can't change facts but admit and improve on them.
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RaniRaja, what langs do you speak?

I agree there must be one language the wifey does not understand.. In my case.. my wifey knows all the languages I know.. (but then so far I have had no reasons to look for an additional one..).
We speak hindi at home, most of the time. English sometimes to keep in touch.

I have been in Surat for 14 yrs now and haven't had the need to learn Gujarati.. the girl I pataoed speaks hindi, so there.. In most of Gujarat, one can easily get by without gujarati.
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speaking of north-south antipathy, one observation I make.. a lot of south indians resent the fact that all the dravidians are lumped as "madrasi", irrespective of the state they hail from
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