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Old May 12th, 2018, 02:31 PM
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Ashdoc's movie review---Raazi

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Raazi is the true story of an Indian female spy who was deliberately married to a Pakistani army man in order to gain military secrets of Pakistan and succeeded in getting vital information about the movement of a Pakistani submarine named Ghazi during the Indo pak war of 1971 . This helped the Indian armed forces counter it's attack .

The big thing about this female spy was that she was a muslim , and that too kashmiri muslim to boot . That itself makes the topic worthy of a film . Her name was Sehmat and is played by Alia Bhatt .

Sehmat's father is spying for India in Pakistan . He belongs to a family of freedom fighters . But he is dying due to cancer and wants to keep the legacy of his patriotism alive . So he selects his daughter Sehmat to carry on the family tradition of spying for India in Pakistan .

This is a life defining decision for Sehmat . She does not merely have to go to Pakistan but she has to live there . Above all , she has to marry a pakistani and to literally sleep with him . And to top it all , she has to give birth to his half pakistani son....

In the midst of all this , Sehmat has to spy on vital documents that contain secrets of pakistani military and pass them to Indian agents . To deal with potential danger , she is trained in physical combat and trained to kill people by Indian intelligence . She has to carry the required equipment for espionage to her marital home .

The film's big concession to filminess is the love story of Sehmat with her pakistani husband played by Vicky Kaushal . He is shown to be a real gentleman and that is too filmy . He refuses to sleep with her until she really falls in love with him and is too nice to her , even when she has been caught spying for arch enemy India . Does not sound like a real character to me . Certainly his oh so nice character has been built up to bring about a romantic angle to the film .

In fact the film shows all pakistanis in the household that Sehmat is married into to be nice people , and one sees the hand of the liberal lobby behind this . The liberals would like us to believe that across the border live nice people without a trace of hate for us in their minds . Inspite of being a pakistani military family , no one among them has really anything bad to say about India in the film . No repetitions of Bhutto's language of thousand year war against India and no mention of jehad . In fact when Sehmat's husband comes to know that she likes hindustani classical music , he brings records of that for her to listen . To a nationalist like me , the whole atmosphere built up in the house of Sehmat's in laws sounds too fake and pakistani appeasing . Pakistanis are jehad crazed barbarians with fanatical hatred for India and that should have been brought out in the film to stay close to reality .

Of course , one person who does not really gel with Sehmat is the family servant Abdul ( Rafiq Zakaria ) . He is the one who finds out about her being a spy and Sehmat has to kill him by crushing him under a truck . Then her own brother in law comes close to finding out the truth and Sehmat dispatches him by hitting him with a poisoned tip of an umbrella . She has a team of Indian spies helping her in pakistan and they help in the second killing . After that she has to live normally with her sister in law whose husband she has just killed , and all this takes a toll on her especially the brutal manner in which she has to kill Abdul .

Finally her cover is blown off and Indian agents try spirit her away . But complications occur and they have to kill innocent people and are ready to kill even her herself , so that she is not caught alive . In the midst of all this , she is confronted by her husband with the truth . But he shows grudging respect for the fact that she is doing all this for her nation India !! No trace of hatred for her inspite of her betrayal of his love !! Way too filmy man and way too liberal !! Such people exist only in films and not real life .

In the end Sehmat is disgusted by the behaviour of the Indian agents in killing innocents including trying to kill her , and does not really appreciate her Indian handler's well meant words that in this sort of confrontation it is winning the war by hook or crook that is more important and not individuals like herself or others who got killed . She gets disenchanted from the whole spy business and becomes lonely and depressed . But the pakistani secrets she gave prove vital for India's war effort , and her son joins the Indian military .

Alia Bhatt is a wonderful actress who brings about every emotion of the character of Sehmat all too well . Background music is good and photography is decent . There are many unknown people who have done countless secret missions with great personal suffering and sacrifice for the country without getting recognition for it and the film will make us remember them all .

Verdict---Good .

Three and a half stars out of five .
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Old May 12th, 2018, 02:48 PM
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Old May 12th, 2018, 11:28 PM
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Re: Ashdoc's movie review---Raazi

'Calling Sehmat'---about the book on which the movie is based---

https://www.google.co.in/amp/s/www.t...at-book-review
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Re: Ashdoc's movie review---Raazi

Boring movie. Not worth anyones time or money. Simply hype being created by Bwood bcoz it is a kashmiri Muslim who is a hero and in these Modi times it is important for their biased story against Modi. Alia, who is a brilliant actress, has given a very ordinary performance. Rest of the cast is just OK. This movie lacks punch in storytelling.
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quite similar to the story of allied - Brad Pitt starrer - with obvious bollywood masala added.
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quite similar to the story of allied - Brad Pitt starrer - with obvious bollywood masala added.
This Aliya Bhatt has lot of money behind her.. she will soon overtake Priyanka Chopra. She looks too girlish and weak physically for a spy, casting is not good.
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She looks too girlish and weak physically for a spy, casting is not good.
probably the whole point of realism... why have a spy who looks like a spy - whatever that means
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Re: Ashdoc's movie review---Raazi

I could not read the review as its too long and like all those review sites. Alas, ashdoc will never learn how to write review for our forum.

Basically movie is produced by Gulzaar's daughter so there has to be hype about it.

Also ashdoc thinks he is a great reviewer and so writes like those asshole reviewers .... He will not understand what a real review is... maybe he has never seen or read vigil idiot

And he has been writing these reviews here and also on other social media... but till date I dont see his name as a reviewer in times of india or some other publications... In a way its good because I consider times of india and the likes as shitty reviewers and shitty reviews.


So guys... is the movie sympathetic towards Pakistanis? I mean, given that Bollywood has made the movie, I was thinking that they must have shown how Pakistanis are nice and only their ISI or Army is bad... Usual leftist appeasement type of treatment of Pakistan in our films. Do tell.
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So guys... is the movie sympathetic towards Pakistanis? I mean, given that Bollywood has made the movie, I was thinking that they must have shown how Pakistanis are nice and only their ISI or Army is bad... Usual leftist appeasement type of treatment of Pakistan in our films. Do tell.
From what i could make out Pakistanis are nice, ISI is nice, India is Bad.

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I could not read the review as its too long and like all those review sites. Alas, ashdoc will never learn how to write review for our forum.
Doc ji was lamenting thus to one of his lady fans.
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rarely do i get such acclaim on this forum , so cynical it's members are....i guess it will take you time to become a typical cynical echarchan and NOT praise someone even if he is good

yes , it does take away the pleasure of seeing a movie because i have to remember certain points which i form in my mind while i see the movie . in the end while writing the review i realise that i have forgotten half the points i had made in my mind while watching it....!!
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So guys... is the movie sympathetic towards Pakistanis? I mean, given that Bollywood has made the movie, I was thinking that they must have shown how Pakistanis are nice and only their ISI or Army is bad... Usual leftist appeasement type of treatment of Pakistan in our films. Do tell.
Yes and No.

Y - Her husband is shown as a very modern guy with all the liberal sensibilities. He would tick everything a feminist would want in her husband and would be an ideal husband to all the BDutts, Ghostes, Shehlas, Arundatis, etc, out there. Who the F knows what he really was like. His portrayal is 180 deg opposite to what a typical Muzzie man is known to be. The whole family is also shown as very modern. There isnt any overt praise but Gulzar Madam has used subtlety to drive such points to the audience's home. I, however, flushed those in the toilet before I left the theater, didnt carry them back with me.

N - The movie shows that Pakis are really paranoid about India and that their single point agenda in life is to ruin India and they make no bones about it, not even in front of their DIL from India at the dining table.
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So guys... is the movie sympathetic towards Pakistanis? I mean, given that Bollywood has made the movie, I was thinking that they must have shown how Pakistanis are nice and only their ISI or Army is bad... Usual leftist appeasement type of treatment of Pakistan in our films. Do tell.
Read my review and you will get the answers .
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Read my review and you will get the answers .
Youre review is too fucking wordy...

Why dont you write like this -

Girl gets married off to a Pakistani officer.
Girl fucks him good... He too enjoys..

In the end India gets information that is needed from the Pakistani.

Curtains....


Isko bolte hai echarcha type review
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Youre review is too fucking wordy...

Why dont you write like this -

Girl gets married off to a Pakistani officer.
Girl fucks him good... He too enjoys..

In the end India gets information that is needed from the Pakistani.

Curtains....


Isko bolte hai echarcha type review
Important info missed there.. Ding dong scenes (Y/N), gotta have this indicator.
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