The Curious Case of Advani

[sarv_shaktimaan]

Jaswant deserves what he is getting, he wants his son to make it big in bjp, but he sabotaged Vasundhara in Rajasthan 2008,Ran away from Barmer in 2009 when he was losing now wants to ride on Raje's win.. She roamed the whole state alone and won a historic mandate. He was thrown out of bjp even earlier, now he may get the same again.. And his son is about to get a ministry in Raj. govt, screwing his prospects too..

[rationalthinker]

A few months ago, when the BJP thinktank had started evolving a strategy for fielding candidates, there was some loud thinking about making these seniors into Rajya Sabhaites. Apparently they haven't agreed!
In Marathi, Adva is 'raste ka roda'; and in Sindhi, they add 'ni' everywhere!
So 'Advani' is merely living up to his name!
-----And, 'I JUST WANT Barmer'----Jaswant!

[sarv_shaktimaan]

whoever praises Jinnah is dead in my eyes.. this rat Jaswant should have never been let back in BJP fold.. his real and fake bjp comment is deplorable, BJP should just let him sulk and resign himself.. Sushma Swaraj is hurt right now for Jaswant but in 2009 she was never tired of slamming him.. watch here

Modi ji is getting net practice in how to deal with opposition within the party.. the guard has changed and old timers have to accept that its only because of Modi that the party has unified to become a ruthless pragmatic party.

pencho these idiots are handing the Congress and its media like NDTV, CNN-IBN so much fodder to try and make dents into BJP's Mission 272 ship..

P.S. btw, do watch the brilliant BJP ads of the Ab Ki Baar Modi Sarkaar campaign fashioned by the biggest Ad Gurus of India .. Piyush Pandey and Prasoon Joshi.. the ads have been playing during the T20 matches and other times on national TV..

P.P.S. my sister is working for the ad agency on this campaign.

[rationalthinker]

whoever praises Jinnah is dead in my eyes..

Actually, after Shri Chattrapati Shivaji Maharaj (&, to some extent, the Gora Sahibs), the most significant benefactor of the Hindus has been Barrister Muhammad Ali Jinnahji.
We hindus ought to build temples of Jinnahji and celebrate his birthday as 'Hindu Punarjanma Divas'!
If he had not removed all those 'Toxic Muslims' from India, we Hindus would have once again started paying the usurious Ziziya, and 'gifting' at least one woman from every generation of our family to the 'Local' Muslim Bigwig just to ensure our 'survival'!------Just see the plight of the Kashmiri Pandits of J&K where no such 'migration' has taken place.
The growth of the Sangh Pariwar is entirely because NOW, Hindus with either courage or intelligence (and most definitely, having BOTH QUALITIES!) are no more culled or forced to convert----as was the case, throughout India (esp. the cow-belt right upto Bengal!), for centuries on end!
It is entirely because of Jinnahji that Hindus, who were reduced to being domesticated Dhimmis, whose sole purpose was to exist for the pleasure and use of the Muslim overlords, are slowly, but surely getting back to being 'Humans' with dignity and self-respect: the inexorable growth and flourish of the Sangh Parivar is a manifestation of the same!

[Origmos]

One shouldn't the media on the matter of divisions within the BJP. Our media always plays and blows any matter out of proportions when it comes to divisions within the hierarchy of the BJP. In contrast, they always tend to play down any level of infighting within the Congress. Our media is always upto mischief whenever the BJP is involved and frankly, I trust almost nothing what the media has to say when the news is about the BJP.

[Origmos]

Originally Posted by sarv_shaktimaan

whoever praises Jinnah is dead in my eyes.. this rat Jaswant should have never been let back in BJP fold.. his real and fake bjp comment is deplorable, BJP should just let him sulk and resign himself.. Sushma Swaraj is hurt right now for Jaswant but in 2009 she was never tired of slamming him.. watch here

Modi ji is getting net practice in how to deal with opposition within the party.. the guard has changed and old timers have to accept that its only because of Modi that the party has unified to become a ruthless pragmatic party.

pencho these idiots are handing the Congress and its media like NDTV, CNN-IBN so much fodder to try and make dents into BJP's Mission 272 ship..

P.S. btw, do watch the brilliant BJP ads of the Ab Ki Baar Modi Sarkaar campaign fashioned by the biggest Ad Gurus of India .. Piyush Pandey and Prasoon Joshi.. the ads have been playing during the T20 matches and other times on national TV..

P.P.S. my sister is working for the ad agency on this campaign.

Lucky you!

[sarv_shaktimaan]

Originally Posted by Origmos

Lucky you!

yes, one is very lucky when their work and interest meet

btw, this Jaswant mofo is crossing all boundaries. Do read this piece from Swapan Dasgupta about Jaswant Singh.

This kind of sums it up.. how old timers from Advani camp are unable to cope and accept the new order within BJP. I just hope these 'ghar ka bhedi' types don't derail Modi Express.

I don't think Jaswant Singh was the victim of an ideological purge. Had that been the case, he would have been discarded a long time ago. The BJP sponsored him for Parliament on nine different occasions - a rare honour. The only occasion he was rejected, he unfurled the banner of rebellion.

Op-ed: Jaswant Singh, BJP's odd one out

[ungalprasad]

Originally Posted by sarv_shaktimaan

I just hope these 'ghar ka bhedi' types don't derail Modi Express.

In one way or another; they all are working towards derailing Modi Express.. It is not a good sign for Modi when already all other parties trying their best to spoil his chance....

I feel; personal campaigns from grass root level individuals like we, can only bring him full majority...

[Origmos]

One or two expulsions is not going to derail Modi.

It is only the media which is trying desperately to give that impression.

[sarv_shaktimaan]

Originally Posted by Origmos

It is only the media which is trying desperately to give that impression.

The media is so frikkin desperate man.. One can see it everywhere. Burkha Dudd and Sardesai's wife Sagarika Ghose can't bear even 1 more second in Banares since people are shouting Modi-Modi.. and they are unable to find even one supporter of Kejriwal.



What does the youth of Benaras think? see this video how chhamiya journo of AAPTak is trying her best to showcase just any person who speaks against Modi. She returns disappointed though.

BHU students chant Modi-Modi

[sgars]

Originally Posted by rationalthinker

Actually, after Shri Chattrapati Shivaji Maharaj (&, to some extent, the Gora Sahibs), the most significant benefactor of the Hindus has been Barrister Muhammad Ali Jinnahji.
We hindus ought to build temples of Jinnahji and celebrate his birthday as 'Hindu Punarjanma Divas'!
If he had not removed all those 'Toxic Muslims' from India, we Hindus would have once again started paying the usurious Ziziya, and 'gifting' at least one woman from every generation of our family to the 'Local' Muslim Bigwig just to ensure our 'survival'!------Just see the plight of the Kashmiri Pandits of J&K where no such 'migration' has taken place.
The growth of the Sangh Pariwar is entirely because NOW, Hindus with either courage or intelligence (and most definitely, having BOTH QUALITIES!) are no more culled or forced to convert----as was the case, throughout India (esp. the cow-belt right upto Bengal!), for centuries on end!
It is entirely because of Jinnahji that Hindus, who were reduced to being domesticated Dhimmis, whose sole purpose was to exist for the pleasure and use of the Muslim overlords, are slowly, but surely getting back to being 'Humans' with dignity and self-respect: the inexorable growth and flourish of the Sangh Parivar is a manifestation of the same!

You are giving him too much of credit. All he wanted was some more importance and like what happens in many a political party now, it was Nehru vs him and Gandhi was at that time more inclined towards Nehru. He actually put an appeasement proposal which was rejectedf by Nehru and Patel after which he started this P movement. After all these years we have this Sachar committee, etc., which may not be too different from his appeasement proposal.

However, in his Pre P days , a couple of things notable -

1. He was the Lawyer for Lokmanya Tilak.
2. He was against the first appeasement move, i.e. the Khilafat movement.

[sgars]

Originally Posted by sarv_shaktimaan

yes, one is very lucky when their work and interest meet

btw, this Jaswant mofo is crossing all boundaries. Do read this piece from Swapan Dasgupta about Jaswant Singh.

This kind of sums it up.. how old timers from Advani camp are unable to cope and accept the new order within BJP. I just hope these 'ghar ka bhedi' types don't derail Modi Express.

Op-ed: Jaswant Singh, BJP's odd one out

How things change. Advani and MMJ* in those days were hardliners whereas Jaswant Singh was a moderate and both in different camps.

Well, his tearful thingy will surely bring him votes and may cost BJP 1 seat. Also do give him credit for the following -
1. Talks with Strob Talbott and the upward swing in Indo US relations and that after the duwnturn following Pokhran Tests.

2. Actually biting the bullet for the govt's messed up decisions and doing the unpalatable thing of accompanying the terrorists to Kandahar. Actually his diplomacy resulted in release of women and children in Dubai.

* For Swamiji - He is Murli Manohar Joshi.

[sarv_shaktimaan]

Originally Posted by sgars

How things change. Advani and MMJ* in those days were hardliners whereas Jaswant Singh was a moderate and both in different camps.

Well, his tearful thingy will surely bring him votes and may cost BJP 1 seat. Also do give him credit for the following -
1. Talks with Strob Talbott and the upward swing in Indo US relations and that after the duwnturn following Pokhran Tests.

2. Actually biting the bullet for the govt's messed up decisions and doing the unpalatable thing of accompanying the terrorists to Kandahar. Actually his diplomacy resulted in release of women and children in Dubai.

* For Swamiji - He is Murli Manohar Joshi.

agreed, he's good at being a minister.. but not at being a politician, and whats this crap about completing 10th visit to parliament He sabotaged 08 Rajasthan assembly elections and got Vasundhara almost kicked out of BJP after that, so now she will make him pay for that.

BJP should expel JustWent Singh's son too if he campaigns for his father who is running against the BJP candidate.. so mofo can sit with the 21 Congi MLA's in Raj Assembly in opposition benches and waste the next 5 years of his life. Father son can enjoy their old Barmer house and feed their patridge, have afeem and hukkah.

[rationalthinker]

Originally Posted by sgars

You are giving him too much of credit. All he wanted was some more importance and like what happens in many a political party now, it was Nehru vs him and Gandhi was at that time more inclined towards Nehru. He actually put an appeasement proposal which was rejectedf by Nehru and Patel after which he started this P movement. After all these years we have this Sachar committee, etc., which may not be too different from his appeasement proposal.

However, in his Pre P days , a couple of things notable -

1. He was the Lawyer for Lokmanya Tilak.
2. He was against the first appeasement move, i.e. the Khilafat movement.

On the contrary, we JUST CANNOT give him enough credit for all that he's done for the Hindus!

Allah almighty obviously has a soft corner for us Hindus, and so, he 'used' Jinnah in ensuring a great future for us Hindus by making him fight for (ostensibly) the Muslims!

[sgars]

Originally Posted by rationalthinker

On the contrary, we JUST CANNOT give him enough credit for all that he's done for the Hindus!

Allah almighty obviously has a soft corner for us Hindus, and so, he 'used' Jinnah in ensuring a great future for us Hindus by making him fight for (ostensibly) the Muslims!

Read this piece, from which Jaswant Singh seems to have copied his 2009 work. i also remember seeing this in some Pakistani Videos. One of which suggested that Patel was so averse to the idea of living with peaceful folks that he pushed for partition. If i find that, i will post the link.

And do not forget the role of Inglistan.

Iqbal wrote Saare Jahan se acchha - The He went to England and got this idea of a new country. The name was given by Rahmat Ali, again in Inglistan. And tired of Gandhi and Nehru, Jinnah decided to live in England, enjoying west end theatre when he decided to give force to this Idea.

Shakti Pai, understand Partition has been painful for your family, but overall, it has been better for people who ended up in India. Imagine having all those Frontier and Swat guys as a part of India.