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Old September 17th, 2008, 11:17 AM
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Re: Is Kamal Hassan the most talented actor in India

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KH is just a pervert.

(once again, I am extremely jealous, but also grossed out by this old perv laying his crinkled old fingers on young flesh) yukkkk!

wld like to hear u say that when u r the old pervert !
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Re: Is Kamal Hassan the most talented actor in India

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Luks like u are a dir hard fan of KH. But what is wrong is wrong. I used to adore him earlier, but after that Abhay movie i think he has lost his mind. Yes experimenting is good, not to the level he did in Abhay. He cam hump as many actresses as he wants, but sometime it is better to consider the plot of the movie and then hump. By the time u get out of the Movie "Hey Ram" you actually say those words
I have heard that he has done very well in his latest release, do not remember the name. But i still think he is Okay definetly not the best.
Mast hai to Rajni Dada, he is still a hero . And talk about variety, he has done it all. And also a animated movie too, ur KH hasent done that. So according to ur logic Rajni should be the most talented
I give credit where it is due. Also Abhay the concept was good, bur failed execution. They cud have made it really well, but they messed it up.
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Re: Is Kamal Hassan the most talented actor in India

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Inspired by Yogi baba's thread I am putting this question across to all fellow charchans. Do you agree that Kamal is the most talented actor India has ever seen? If agree/disagree what are your reasons?
"most talented actor in india" Q is very very difficult to answer. There are 800+ movies produced in a year in about 10 languages. Most see the Bollywood and their couple of local (wildcard *)wood. How is it possible to choose "the most talented" in such a mixture?

I would say KH is defntly "One of the most talented actors of India".
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wld like to hear u say that when u r the old pervert !

Is that a proposal or an invitation??
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Re: Is Kamal Hassan the most talented actor in India

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Le yaar. Search kiya aur mil gaya:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kuruthipunal
movie is a great movie though. Have'nt seen the original, but this movie is kick ass
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Re: Is Kamal Hassan the most talented actor in India

Members were discussing so I went and rented a movie of Kamal Hassan ... he plays a mute. I was not impressed. Great story though ...

Suggest ... we watch two films before arriving at a conclusion. One single actor film Yaadein starring Sunil Dutt and a film where Sanjeev Kumar plays close to a dozen roles.

I keep looking but cant find the dvd of two films.
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Re: Is Kamal Hassan the most talented actor in India

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Members were discussing so I went and rented a movie of Kamal Hassan ... he plays a mute. I was not impressed. Great story though ...

Suggest ... we watch two films before arriving at a conclusion. One single actor film Yaadein starring Sunil Dutt and a film where Sanjeev Kumar plays close to a dozen roles.

I keep looking but cant find the dvd of two films.
The Sanjeev Kumar movie you are suggesting is, "Naye Din Nayi Raat" or something like that. But what I do not understand is, how will watching a Sunil Dutt or a Sanjeev Kumar movie determine whether Kamal Hassan is good or not
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Re: Is Kamal Hassan the most talented actor in India

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The Sanjeev Kumar movie you are suggesting is, "Naye Din Nayi Raat" or something like that. But what I do not understand is, how will watching a Sunil Dutt or a Sanjeev Kumar movie determine whether Kamal Hassan is good or not
BhaYa ... we will need to pit Kamal with the best to do justice to title of this thread ... I could think of two with the most challenging roles ... you may wish to add more?

Unfortunately I haven't watched two movies ...
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Re: Is Kamal Hassan the most talented actor in India

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BhaYa ... we will need to pit Kamal with the best to do justice to title of this thread ... I could think of two with the most challenging roles ... you may wish to add more?

Unfortunately I haven't watched two movies ...

tantuji dekh liya movies aapne? I don't have all the time in the world
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Re: Is Kamal Hassan the most talented actor in India

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I recollect seeing Kamal in his own direction movie that was a remake of the Hindi film “Drohkaal”, in which he played the lead.
mann...drohkaal was one helluva movie...was very young when i saw it...some days back i went to local movie store and asked the guyz there for this movie...idiots said that they havent heard any movie title with that name....i was like

herez the synopsis:

’Times of Betrayal’’,this was the title which followed
the poster of Govind Nihalani’s violent saga.Nihalani a former assistant
of Shyam Benegal shot into fame as a director
in early 80-s for his
hard-hitting violent sagas-Aakrosh and Ardh Satya.The violence of his films
was a bit different from other violent movies.The films had more of
internal violence going in the character’s mind rather than kicks and
punches.Needless to say that with Aakrosh he touched the pinnacle of
alternate cinema making Naseer-ud-din Shah deliver another power packed
performance and bringing Om Puri into limelight.With Ardh Satya in 1983 he
gave the art-cinema its biggest hit ever and the movie got both him and Om
Puri a number of national,filmfare and international awards.I remember
clearly that in around end of 1994 I used to follow-India This week tv
series after coming from school.They once showed a showcase on Drohkaal
which was getting acclaim in many film-festivals.From the showcase itself
it was evident that it was another hard-hitting cinema in Ardh-Satya.When
it was released in May 1995 just a few weeks after Mani Rathnam’s
classic-Bombay,I decided to watch Drohkaal with my friend on
theatre.Ofcourse I was having second thoughts that it was the first art
movie which I was going to watch on theatre( I saw Ardh Satya 4 years after
in 1999) and I was not sure if I could enjoy it.Secondly I thought that
such hard hitting cinema evolved with Nana Patekar in countless movies
after Ardh Satya-Ankush,Pratighaat and Krantiveer which had bowled me
over.So I thought that now what can Govind and Om do to better it.Needless
to say that the combination of Naseer-ud-din Shah-a perennial favourite
with Om Puri and Amrish Puri as well,gave me a feeling that the movie will
atleast have great performances if nothing else.And they proved me right.
The movie begins with 2 senior police
officers(Naseer-ud-din Shah and Om Puri) encouraging new recruits of the
police force.They wanted a few young officers to mix-up with the militants
in such a way that they earn their trust and pass on information.The pack
included one Dhanush(Milind Gunanji) and 2 other young officers.Naseer is a
muslim and is the senior officer and is a simple but tough guy.Om,a Hindu
is also tough but is not that hard-hearted.Despite the difference in
religion they were great friends and their families interact and
celebrate festivals together.Om is married to Mita Vashisth and has a small
kid.Their main target is a guy who runs a terrorist outfit(Ashish
Vidyarthi).
Om also looks upon on his senior (Amrish Puri) as a philosopher
and guide.He manages to catch hold of Vidyarthi but is not able to get any
information from him.He is surprised to see that Vidyarthi is not an
uneduacted man but a highly educated and a sensible young man who is
against the country.He is scared by the mentality that is on the rise in
the country.However he is not able to change much as he realises that he is
a pawn in this big game of chess.Events take a turn in such a way that
Ashish controls Om’s life even while being in prison.Om’s family is
troubled and the problem escalates when Vidyarthi’s associate(Annu Kapoor)
starts staying at Om’s place posing a threat to his wife and son.Meanwhile
Dhanush’s other aid are caught by the terrorists and killed.However Dhanush
is still on the hide and has won the confidence of everyone.
Due to the evil forces Naseer is killed and Amrish commits
suicide.Om kills Ashish but in order to catch the entire gang of terrorists
dies at the hands of Dhanush so that Dhanush can become the commander and
foil all plans of the terrorists group.
Nihalani advertised his recently released flop -Dev as the
sequel to Ardh Satya.However for a Govind Nihalani fan and even for a
normal person who has seen this movie,Drohkaal looks and fits correctly as
the movie which follows Ardh Satya.
The story of Drohkaal like most Govind Nihalani’s movies
is hard and is set against a backdrop of terrorism.The story is brilliant
and it tries to look at the network of terrorists.The screenplay is
good,although some scenes have traces of Amitabh Bachchan
starrer-Benaam(read my review for details).The terrorising of a family by a
criminal,attacking a child and killing of the dog was all present in
Benaam.However except that there is no simialrity in both the movies.The
editing is good although some scenes especially the bed-scenes between Om
Puri and Mita Vashishtha tend to get too slow.The scene where Anu Kapoor
sexually abuses Mita is not in proper taste and tends to drag.The dailogues
are brilliant and the dailogues between Om Puri and Ashish Vidyarthi form
the highlight of the movie.The sound recording and cinematography is
brlliant.Govind Nihalanis totally controls the script by his brilliant
direction.Although ,Ardh Satya,Aakrosh and Vijeta are the best works of the
director yer Drohkaal is not very far from them.Amrish Puri again gets a role of an elderly man like in
Aakrosh,Aaghaat and Ardh Satya.His character has negative shades and he
delivers another good performance.While most people know about Om,others
tend to overlook the fact that even Amrish Puri has been a favourite actor
of Govind-Aaghaat,Aakrosh,Vijeta,Ardh Satya,Thakshak(read my review) and
even the weak Dev.His death scene comes as a thrilling sequence.
Mita Vashishth is just ok and so is Anu Kapoor.Milind Gunanji
does adeuqate job in his debut(although I dreamt of Nana Patekar in his
place in the role).However the show belongs to Ashish Vidyarthi.In his
debut film Vidyarthi gives his carrier best performance.If Ardh Satya
brought Sadashiv Amrapurkar as a villain in a big way,Drohkaal brought
Vidyarthi to Bombay.His dailogue delivery,diction and expressions make him
a real good actor and he matches the skills of both Om Puri and Naseer.
Ashish got a national award for the best supporting actor that year
although he lost to Mithun Chakraborty who won the Filmfare for the best
villain for the B-grade Jallad.Unfortunately like most theatre actors
except Naseer and Amrish Puri,Vidyarthi also could not get much success
after his sensational debut.He is reduced to a B-grade villain and none of
his performances except in Is Raat Ki Subah Nahin and to an extent Major
Saab are anything to write.His confrontation scene with Om Puri in the
forest deserves special mention.
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Re: Is Kamal Hassan the most talented actor in India

Vyomisenaixa pai, great review... thanks, now I almost feel like watching Drohkaal... will try to get it. I personally feel that Dev was an excellent movie, superb acting and great script.
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Vyomisenaixa pai, great review... thanks, now I almost feel like watching Drohkaal... will try to get it. I personally feel that Dev was an excellent movie, superb acting and great script.
Yup...Droh-kaal was an amazing movie....whatever I have watched of Govind Nihalani is superb (now before Amtha pai says anything...lemme clarify..I'm talking about his movies).. Aakrosh, Drohkaal, Dev, Tamas...

Naihalani was the link between realistic cinema and commercial cinema.... he never skirted the issues bur never went too preachy (except Dev I guess) either...
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