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Old April 13th, 2005, 09:22 AM
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I came across the following lines. Thought they were quite profound and wanted to share them with you.

Strike at the root of a tree; it would bleed
But still live. Strike at the trunk; it would bleed
But still live. Strike again at the top;
It would bleed but still live. The Self as life
Supports the tree, which stands firm and enjoys
The nourishment it receives.
If the Self leaves one branch, that branch withers.
If it leaves a second, that too withers.
If it leaves a third, that again withers.
Let it leave the whole tree, the whole tree dies.
Just so, dear one, when death comes and the Self
Departs from the body, the body dies.
But the Self dies not.
-Chandogya Upanishad
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Re: The body dies but the self dies not

Wise Lines apunbola.

There are as many nights as days, and the one is just as long as the other in the year's course. Even a happy life cannot be without a measure of darkness, and the word 'happy' would lose its meaning if it were not balanced by sadness.

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Re: The body dies but the self dies not

so 'Self' here refers to the soul or the will to keep living? I think the will is an equally important player in keeping a person alive, if there's no will, no motivation, then the person is dead anyways...
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Re: The body dies but the self dies not

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Originally Posted by apunbola
I came across the following lines. Thought they were quite profound and wanted to share them with you.

Strike at the root of a tree; it would bleed
But still live. Strike at the trunk; it would bleed
But still live. Strike again at the top;
It would bleed but still live. The Self as life
Supports the tree, which stands firm and enjoys
The nourishment it receives.
If the Self leaves one branch, that branch withers.
If it leaves a second, that too withers.
If it leaves a third, that again withers.
Let it leave the whole tree, the whole tree dies.
Just so, dear one, when death comes and the Self
Departs from the body, the body dies.
But the Self dies not.
-Chandogya Upanishad

This belongs in philosophy section

If self is immortal....why is it so bad to be selfish
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Old April 13th, 2005, 10:04 AM
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This belongs in philosophy section

If self is immortal....why is it so bad to be selfish
Sorry that I did not post in the correct forum. Can the administrator or moderator move this into the appropriate forum?
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so 'Self' here refers to the soul or the will to keep living? I think the will is an equally important player in keeping a person alive, if there's no will, no motivation, then the person is dead anyways...
Thats the problem with English language. There are certain words in other languages like Sanskrit for which there is no correct translation in English. The Self that is being referred here is known as 'Atman' in Sanskrit which is qualitatively similar to Omnipresent Almighty. In other words we can say its referring to Soul.
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