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Old March 26th, 2007, 12:33 PM
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Lyrics of AR Rehman songs make no sense!

AR Rehman composes good music, but the lyrics suck big time. I mean, they make no head or tail to me. I feel, he just composes a funky tune and then get some songwriter to dish out a song to fit into his composition...

Example:

This is one of his biggest hits: Dil Se title song.

Ooo...Ek sooraj nikla tha
Kuchh paara pighla tha
Ek aandhi aayi thi
Jab dil se aah nikli thi
Dil se re

What the fcuk does that mean, ek suraj nikla tha...no sense.. what is paara?

Ek sooraj nikla tha
Kuchh paara pighla tha
Ek aandhi aayi thi
Jab dil se aah nikli thi
Dil se re
Dil se re dil se re
Dil se re dil se re
Dil se re
Dil to aakhir dil hai na meethi si mushkil hai na
Piya piya
Piya piya piya na piya
Jiya jiya jiya na jiya
Dil se re

This is total bs...no head or tail to the lyrics

Dil se re dil se re
Dil se re dil se re
Dil se re
Dil to aakhir dil hai na meethi si mushkil hai na
Piya piya
Piya piya piya na piya
Jiya jiya jiya na jiya
Dil se re
Ooo....Do patte patjhad ke pedon se utrey thay
Pedon ki shaakhon se utrey thay
Phir utne mausam guzre vo patte do bechaare
Phir ugne ki chaahat mein vo sehraon se guzre
Vo patte dil dil dil thay
Vo dil thay dil dil dil thay
Dil hai to phir dard hoga dard hai to dil bhi hoga
Mausam guzarte rehte hain
Dil hai to phir dard hoga dard hai to dil bhi hoga
Mausam guzarte rehte hain
Dil se dil se dil se dil se dil se re

Two leaves climbed down a branch? that leaf was a heart?? What the heck is he even talking about??

Dil to aakhir dil hai na meethi si mushkil hai na
Piya piya
Piya piya piya na piya
Jiya jiya jiya na jiya
Dil se re
Ooo...Bandhan hai rishton mein kaaton ki taarein hain
Patthar ke darwaaze deewaarein
Belein phir bhi ugti hain aur guchchhe bhi khilte hain
Aur chalte hain afsaane kirdaar bhi milte hain
Vo rishtey dil dil dil thayVo dil thay dil dil dil thay
Gam dil ke pak chulbule hain paani ke ye bulbule hain
Bujhte hain bate rehte hain
Gam dil ke pak chulbule hain paani ke ye bulbule hain
Bujhte hain bate rehte hain
Dil se dil se dil se dil se dil se re
Dil se re dil se re
Dil se re dil se re

I think he totally lost it here. I don't even want to try to figure out what this guy is trying to say here...

Dil to aakhir dil hai na meethi si mushkil hai na
Piya piya Dil to aakhir dil hai na meethi si mushkil hai na
Piya piya piya na piya
Piya piyaJiya jiya jiya na jiya
Piya piya piya na piya
Dil se reJiya jiya jiya na jiya
Dil se re
Dil se re dil se re
Dil se re.
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Old March 26th, 2007, 12:42 PM
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paara means mercury... he says mercury melted..
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Old March 26th, 2007, 12:45 PM
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Re: Lyrics of AR Rehman songs make no sense!

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paara means mercury... he says mercury melted..
One sun came out...some mercury melted....

I mean, even Picasso must be wondering what the hell does he mean by that!
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Re: Lyrics of AR Rehman songs make no sense!

This song .... these lines...

Paanv Jannat chale Chaiyan Chayan ...
Chal Chaiyan Chayan ...Chaiyan Chayan ...
Chal Chaiyan Chayan ...Chaiyan Chayan ...

These always make me wonder whether the lyricist wants to glorify terrorism. If it is, then the he/she was successful in penentrating the common Indian household where even young kids hum these lines without bothering what they mean.

Do let me know if I am right.

In this movie, I Manisha Koirala is playing the role of a lady bomber.
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Old March 26th, 2007, 01:02 PM
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Re: Lyrics of AR Rehman songs make no sense!

Heheh.....I agree. They makes no sense. This is maybe because of out-of-context translation from Tamil lyrics. Maybe he needs good poet who understands both Tamil and Hindi well.
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Re: Lyrics of AR Rehman songs make no sense!

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I mean, even Picasso must be wondering what the hell does he mean by that!
He even have lyrics on that :

Picasso ki painting mere peechhe pakad ke, Texas mein naache mil ke

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Re: Lyrics of AR Rehman songs make no sense!

This is not just a problem of AR Rehman songs, in fact any song borrowed from south into hindi suffers from bad lyrics. The reason is in south, nobody really cares much about lyrics as much as music, story, scenes etc. So only the movie in the original language has some lyrics making sense. Also the speed and word play of songs from south indian languages doesn't fit with hindi tongue and taste eg. hindustani, hum se muqabla songs and so on. Now hindi audience as I know, mostly care about lyrics.

Yesterday we were listening some good music of Ilayaraja in classic telugu songs, though we were appreciating the music very much, we could not make any sense out of the lyrics, reason - these songs were all dubbed from tamil. Music doesn't need proper translation or for that matter any translation, but lyrics do unfortunately.
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Re: Lyrics of AR Rehman songs make no sense!

Not just makes no sense......I said lil more for him here.

Also there are tonns of songs including some super hits whose lyrics make no sense at all also.
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Re: Lyrics of AR Rehman songs make no sense!

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Heheh.....I agree. They makes no sense. This is maybe because of out-of-context translation from Tamil lyrics. Maybe he needs good poet who understands both Tamil and Hindi well.
its not tamil translated to hindi... Dil se songs are written by Gulzar... he usually writes poetry which makes sense only to him... for example "is mod se jaate hain kuch sust kadam raste kuch tez kadam raahe..." all i can understand is that when u take the exit (is (interstate) mod (exit) se) on to interstate the right side (slower traffic hence sust kadam raste) and the left side (faster traffic hence tez kadam raahe)...

another example...

Saathiya, saathiya
Maddham maddham teri geeli hansi (medium wet laughter )
Saathiya, saathiya
Sunke humne saari pee li hansi (drank up the laughter)
(Hansti rahe tu hansti rahe
Haya ki laali khilti rahe
Zulf ke neeche gardan pe
Subah-o-shaam milti rahe) - 2
Saundi si hansi teri khilti rahe milti rahe
Peeli dhoop pehenke tum dekho baag mein mat jaana (is he suggesting dont go the park with no clothes on???)
Bhanwre tumko sab chhedenge, phoolon mein mat jaana...
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Re: Lyrics of AR Rehman songs make no sense!

good point harharji...infact itz not only d case wherein songs were translated from southy films...even a pure bolly movies song will sport some real stupid urdu words wen ar gives music ...

i always say this...i dont consider ar as a good music director..somewhere i feel he already has a tune in his mind n twists the lyrics to fit it in the music...even gulzars lyrics sounds yucks wen ar gives music...i have never seen gulzar or that 'secular' muslim guy composing lyrics wid stupid urdu or other fundu sounding words in them....
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Re: Lyrics of AR Rehman songs make no sense!

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"is mod se jaate hain kuch sust kadam raste kuch tez kadam raahe..." all i can understand is that when u take the exit (is (interstate) mod (exit) se) on to interstate the right side (slower traffic hence sust kadam raste) and the left side (faster traffic hence tez kadam raahe)...
yaar aisa mat bolo...iem a gr8 fan of his..

Is mod se jaate hain - (2)
Kuchh sust qadam raste kuchh tez qadam raahe - (2)
Patthar ki haveli ko shishe ke gharaundo mein
Tinko ke nasheman tak is mod se jaate hain
Aa�Is mod se jaate hain

its meaning is: yeh jo modd hain..i mean pyaar waala... yeh patthar ki haveli (stone hearted)..sheeshe k gharaonde (sensitive)..n tinko ( less fortunate)...teeno type k logo.n k dil tak iska raasta jaata hain..i mean eveyone treads on this path...kuch dheere (sust kadam) se chalte hain in rasto.n pe ya chalna padta hain (to reach stone hearted ppl or 2convince sensitive ppl) ...aur kuch tez (to reach less fortunate)....

i hope u understood...i know my explanation was weird
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Re: Lyrics of AR Rehman songs make no sense!

Gulaar's lyrics have a lot of depth to them but I'm sure if someone wants to look at only the literal meaning, they are going to sound "besir pair" ke lyrics.. For example, a song like "Mera kuch Samaan" with lyrics like "aur mere ik khat mein lipti raakh padi hai" or "116 chaand ki raatein aur tumhare kandhe ka til" might sound irrelevant but carry/contain a lot of meaning and depth..

Gulzaar totally won me over with his item Song lyrics for "Bidi jalai le"
from Omkara..

BTW, Gulzar did win the best lyricist award for "Dil Se"
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Re: Lyrics of AR Rehman songs make no sense!

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Gulaar's lyrics have a lot of depth to them but I'm sure if someone wants to look at only the literal meaning, they are going to sound "besir pair" ke lyrics.. For example, a song like "Mera kuch Samaan" with lyrics like "aur mere ik khat mein lipti raakh padi hai" or "116 chaand ki raatein aur tumhare kandhe ka til" might sound irrelevant but carry/contain a lot meaning and depth..

Gulzaar totally won me over with his item Song lyrics for "Bidi jalai le"
from Omkara..

BTW, Gulzar did win the best lyricist award for "Dil Se"


Yeah,
That was because of Indepth meaning of Chhaiyaa Chhaiyaa song.
But then it was these Bikane waale award. FilmFare award. Do you really think FilmFare awards do mean something? Bullshit. FilmFare awards are for those who can buy them, not for those who can act.
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Re: Lyrics of AR Rehman songs make no sense!

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BTW, Gulzar did win the best lyricist award for "Dil Se"
Who gave him that award? The Brainless Artists Academy?
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Re: Lyrics of AR Rehman songs make no sense!

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another example...

Saathiya, saathiya (oh darling..friend)
Maddham maddham teri geeli hansi (soft..wet..smile...hez pointing out moist lips )
Saathiya, saathiya
Sunke humne saari pee li hansi (i got mesmerized)
(Hansti rahe tu hansti rahe
Haya ki laali khilti rahe ( he means a demure smile)
Zulf ke neeche gardan pe
Subah-o-shaam milti rahe (boleto...she so bubbly n fun-loving that her long tresses/hair flow in air...giving an impression thats its sometimes day n sometimes night..thats a classic way how poet describes woman's hair)
Saundi si hansi teri khilti rahe milti rahe
Peeli dhoop pehenke tum dekho baag mein mat jaana (yellow color signifies spring...so hez asking not to go in garden during springtime)
Bhanwre tumko sab chhedenge, phoolon mein mat jaana...( asking her not to go out wid her friends..else guys will tease them..)
i have tried to tell d meaning of song u just quoted shaktimanji (see the quote and meaning in bracket)...i agree the lyrics is toooooooo bad for an average listener to delve deep into it to know itz meaning....

typical ar rehman
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