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Old November 27th, 2009, 07:40 AM
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Re: 26/11 anniversary - overdose of drama

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I choose not to answer this question as this is highly hypothetical situation (not 1000's of people being killed but the PM donating gold to Pakistan).
Why do you think this is hypothetical?? Did Taklu Gandhi not give 55 Crores to Paksitan while Hindus were being butchered in Paksitan in the thousands/

Followers of Gandhi could do this for real!!!
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Old November 27th, 2009, 10:43 AM
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Since there are more news channels and media outlets than any other country - yes even US has fewer channels - there is constant need for ratings. So every news channel tries to outdo others and comes up with all kinds of sensationalism and media frenzy over any tragedy. Tragedy and shock are two things which glue people to their TV sets. Its the same the world over.

So what you see is everyone trying to make a media event out of it all. None of the channels are interested in investigating, following up and challenging any politician or political party for accountability of what has been done since 26/11 to prevent such incidents in future and to prosecute those who were responsible for it.

Channels are more interested in broadcasting news about how MNS did not honor non-Maharashtrian non-local police officers and commandoes, but no one is interested in showing if the families of the heroes have been taken care of. The media will show a few human-interest sentimental stories about how some of those who survived or lost someone dear are crying in front of cameras even after a year, but wont do anything to wipe their tears for good.

So dont expect anything other than a media gala event.
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Re: 26/11 anniversary - overdose of drama

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Why do you think this is hypothetical?? Did Taklu Gandhi not give 55 Crores to Paksitan while Hindus were being butchered in Paksitan in the thousands/

Followers of Gandhi could do this for real!!!
Ok...so Gandhiji has given 55 Crores to Pakistan. But which generation Gandhi belong to? To the period when India and Pakistan were together and were under British Raj. Now which generation our current PM belongs to?

Also, it is for the betterment that Gandhi gave that money to Pakistan. Else who knows, if Pakistan couldn’t have survived without that money, they would have joined India again. Could this have been possible...hypothetically at least (like your example)? Would you have rather wanted this?

Your second question: Followers of Gandhi will not do this for real. Lets take a step back here. According to you, who exactly are followers of Gandhi? Can you name a few and tell us why you think they would give tons of gold to Pakistan in the present circumstances?
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Can you name a few and tell us why you think they would give tons of gold to Pakistan in the present circumstances?
The whole of the Kangress party follows the appeasement policy towards Muslims. They discarded the POTA which helps police to immediately arrest Muslim terrorists.

Also, this gold can be given to Pakistan for the betterment of Pakistan. Just like the US gives them billions of dollars of aid.

And even if Taklu Gandi was in another time in the past there are staunch admirers like yourself even today!
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More updates on this.......

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36,000 bullets to kill 9 terrorists
By: J Dey Date: 2009-11-27 Place: Mumbai

During 26/11, directionless security forces had to use old ammunition, which misfired, indicate investigations

For 62 hours, beginning 9.20 pm on November 26, 2008, Indian security forces, including the Mumbai police and the National Security Guard, fired 36,000 bullets to combat the 10 Lashkar-e-Taiba men.

As is well documented, nine of those terrorists were shot down, one was captured alive the man we know as Mohammed Ajmal Amir Qasab.

The security forces spread out across six locations to combat the incessant volleys from the 10 terrorists. But
the Mumbai police were handicapped by the quality of the ammunition they used.

The bullets were old, procured over 10 years ago, and they misfired.

"Had the operation been better planned with better equipment, the number of rounds would have been far less," said a senior police source.

He did not comment on the cost involved, because in a war-like situation, that is immaterial, he said.

"At least three consignments of 5,000 live rounds were sent for the police to the area of action," recalled Ramrao Pawar, former additional commissioner of police in-charge of the armoury.

Then, the Special Action Group of the NSG had borrowed more than 21,000 bullets from the armoury.

Advantage terrorists

On the other hand, the terrorists were carrying just 10,500 rounds during the siege. However, they racked up a toll of 166 dead and 300 injured.

A panchnama report has indicated that most of them were on target because they used automatic weapons like the AK-47 rifle.

Investigators also found that all shots were aimed between the groin and chest, increasing fatalities.

Meanwhile, contents of the Ram Pradhan report indicate that the security forces were directionless for more than 10 hours before the NSG, Army and other paramilitary forces like the Marcos stepped in.

This meant, the men fired without a clear plan to engage the enemy.

Now

The police recovered from 26/11 and spent 1.2 lakh bullets practicing. Of this, an estimated 73,000 rounds were fired from the vintage .410 caliber rifle and 27,000 bullets were fired from British era .303 caliber rifles.

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In Nariman House alone, the terrorists fired 300 rounds.

Kamte's Widow questions report

Vinita Kamte, widow of the then Additional Police Commissioner Ashok Kamte who died fighting terrorists during the 26/11 attacks, has questioned the report of the Ram Pradhan Committee, set up by the Maharashtra Government soon after 26/11.

"It is surprising to note that the persons on whom the Ram Pradhan Committee relied were mostly persons who were themselves interested in covering up their lapses," Vinita said in her book To The Last Bullet, released here recently.

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Hmm .. some more ... when you make a Muslim as head of your police dept, then you are bound to see death of Hindu police officers at hands of criminals and terrorists!

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Before 26/11, Gafoor had taken away Karkare's bullet-proof SUV

Mumbai: Hemant Karkare, the slain chief of the state's anti-terrorism squad (ATS), would have gone after Mohammed Ajmal Amir Kasab and his associate Abu Ismail in the bullet-proof vehicle provided to him by his department. But when the terrorists struck on the night of November 26 last year, the vehicle, a Tata Safari, was lying idle outside the Air India building at Nariman Point.

The result: the police lost three brilliant officers.

The office of the then police commissioner, Hasan Gafoor, had asked for the vehicle a few days before the 26/11 attacks, sources said. There was an "oral communication" from the commissioner's office to send the bullet-proof vehicle and it was immediately despatched, an ATS officer told DNA on the condition of anonymity. "The vehicle was returned to the ATS a few days after 26/11,"the officer said.

Gafoor was not available for comment despite repeated attempts.

The silver-coloured Tata Safari (MH-01-SA-1881) had been provided to Karkare after the Intelligence Bureau alerted the ATS about the threat to his life because he had unearthed the alleged involvement of Hindu fundamentalists in the Malegaon bomb blast.
On the fateful night, Karkare had to travel in a Tata Indigo, which was not bullet-proof. He then switched to a Qualis, which was ambushed by the terrorists.

The Safari, on the other hand, was used as an escort vehicle for Gafoor.

"Had the vehicle been with the ATS, the people travelling in the ill-fated police Qualis, including Karkare, Ashok Kamte and Vijay Salaskar, would not have died," a senior police officer said.

An officer who was on duty outside Oberoi on 26/11 said that the bullet-proof vehicle was parked behind Gafoor's official car, a Honda City. "Instead of keeping it idle at one place on such a crucial night, it could have been sent to help Karkare. Or, even the commissioner himself could have sat in the bullet-proof vehicle and visited all terror-hit spots," said another officer.

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Hmm .. some more ... when you make a Muslim as head of your police dept, then you are bound to see death of Hindu police officers at hands of criminals and terrorists!

Thats a too strong statement to make!

I guess it was more about inefficiency on the part of police deptt, lack of crisis mgmt.. and confusion and choas that was created that unfateful day..

Even we as individuals have done nothing worth mentioning to help the victims and wipe their tears other than discussing (about what and what not should be done) on different platforms..
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Thats a too strong statement to make!

I guess it was more about inefficiency on the part of police deptt, lack of crisis mgmt.. and confusion and choas that was created that unfateful day..

Even we as individuals have done nothing worth mentioning to help the victims and wipe their tears other than discussing (about what and what not should be done) on different platforms..
Every where in the world its proven that Muslims are more sympathetic to their religion. In the Iraq war, a Muslim marine was charged with throwing grenades and killing his own team.

Recently at Fort Hood, Texas, a muslim doctor - supposed to care and heal the wounded soldiers - went on a rampage and killed so many. Why? Because he now suddenly started feeling bad for his Muslim brethren in Iraq and Afghanistan.

How many more examples do you want?
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