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Old March 2nd, 2017, 08:57 AM
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No room in India for intolerant Indians: President Pranab Mukherjee

No room in India for intolerant Indians: President Pranab Mukherjee




NEW DELHI: Amid the ongoing debate over the freedom of expression in the wake of violent clashes in Delhi University's Ramjas College, President Pranab Mukherjee on Thursday said that "there must be space for legitimate criticism and dissent."

"Those in universities must engage in reasoned discussion and debate rather than propagate a culture of unrest. It is tragic to see them caught in the vortex of violence and disquiet," the President said while delivering the 6th KS Rajamony Memorial Lecture on the topic "India@70" on Thursday in Kochi, Kerala.

Asserting that freedom of speech and expression is guaranteed to every Indian by the Constitution, the President said: "There should be no room in India for the intolerant Indian".

Ramjas College had recently witnessed large-scale violence between members of the AISA and the ABVP. The genesis of the clash was an invite to JNU students Umar Khalid and Shehla Rashid to address a seminar on 'Culture of Protests', which was withdrawn by the college authorities following opposition by ABVP.

President Pranab said our premier institutions of higher education are vehicles on which India should propel itself into a knowledge society and added that these temples of learning must resound with creativity and free thinking.

The President also cautioned law makers never to take people for granted. "They (law makers) must focus on the fundamental task of law making and raising of issues of concern to the people. The trust placed by the people in the political system and those elected should not be betrayed," he said.

Talking about violence against women in society, the President said that "when we brutalize a woman, we wound the soul of our civilisation". "The trust placed by the people in the political system and those elected should not be betrayed," he said.

"A sense of national purpose and patriotism alone can lift our nation on to the road of sustained progress and prosperity," he added.

Clashes erupted in Delhi University campus on February 21 when the ABVP forced the cancellation of a seminar at Ramjas College over the participation of a controversial JNU student.
The next day, ABVP activists were blamed for attacking students, teachers and journalists in the campus, triggering widespread condemnation.


Lady Shri Ram College student Gurmehar Kaur then launched a social media campaign against the ABVP, only to face death and rape threats. On Tuesday, she left Delhi for Punjab, saying she was pulling out of the campaign.
While her college teachers, fellow students and family have stood by her, she did not speak to the media on Wednesday at Jalandhar, where the Punjab Police deployed two women constables for her protection.
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/i...w/57433647.cms
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Re: No room in India for intolerant Indians: President Pranab Mukherjee

Thank God the Congis never made Manmohan the President,atleast we have a President who speaks.
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Thank God the Congis never made Manmohan the President,atleast we have a President who speaks.
This is why he was sidelined to President post. I maintain that Pranab da would have made an excellent PM, but Gandhi dynasty would be finished just like PVN would have ensured. PVN was very much against Sonia Gandhi entering active politics, which is why he was sidelined.
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Re: No room in India for intolerant Indians: President Pranab Mukherjee

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This is why he was sidelined to President post. I maintain that Pranab da would have made an excellent PM, but Gandhi dynasty would be finished just like PVN would have ensured. PVN was very much against Sonia Gandhi entering active politics, which is why he was sidelined.
Not going to fall for these talking points. He only reads from piece of paper written by some speech writer. What we need is can do person. What does these empty talks achieve anyway. Show me one thing he has done. Now don't tell me there is nothing to do. For a starter, can President if determined not do something about fish market like atmosphere in Parliament? Doesn't President have any influence on so many elections all the time? why can't President do something about holding state and federal elections once every 5 years? He will complete 5 years soon and has nothing to his legacy, other than President is ceremonial in India can't do much. We need someone like Seshan, who comes does something before his tenure is over and then goes away. The benefits are long lasting.

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Not going to fall for these talking points. He only reads from piece of paper written by some speech writer. What we need is can do person. What does these empty talks achieve anyway. Show me one thing he has done. Now don't tell me there is nothing to do. For a starter, can President if determined not do something about fish market like atmosphere in Parliament? Doesn't President have any influence on so many elections all the time? why can't President do something about holding state and federal elections once every 5 years? He will complete 5 years soon and has nothing to his legacy, other than President is ceremonial in India can't do much. We need someone like Seshan, who comes does something before his tenure is over and then goes away. The benefits are long lasting.
uska beta beti dono congress me hai.. why spoil it for them by being proactive? He can mind his business and just do a decent job.

poori zindagi ki neknaami budhape me kyon kharab karne ka?
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Re: No room in India for intolerant Indians: President Pranab Mukherjee

I'm not sure what neknaami and decent job is. He hasn't done anything. With or without him it would make no difference. Do you think anyone takes these pep talks to heart and from tomorrow they are going to change their behaviour? It makes a headline for a day lawmakers are going to do what suits them from tomorrow. That is why it is essential to put something in place which is not as easy as lecturebazi but that is what changes the landscape. They all wanna be heroes by giving lectures few times a year.
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uska beta beti dono congress me hai.. why spoil it for them by being proactive? He can mind his business and just do a decent job.

poori zindagi ki neknaami budhape me kyon kharab karne ka?
Reminds me. After Indira G's death, he started ordering people in an airplane saying that he was the senior most cabinet member and hence the de facto PM. Looks like Ra ga Sr was also in the same flight and later expelled Pranav Da for 6 Years.
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uska beta beti dono congress me hai.. why spoil it for them by being proactive? He can mind his business and just do a decent job.

poori zindagi ki neknaami budhape me kyon kharab karne ka?
He might have realized that Cong is a sinking ship anyway. Beta Beti might be in BJP after some time.
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why can't President do something about holding state and federal elections once every 5 years?
That is a huge topic itself.
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why can't President do something about holding state and federal elections once every 5 years?
This will happen from 2019 and the PM with President is working on it but congress is the main dushman and even if the President passes an ordinance the courts are there to overturn it on congi petitions.
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Re: No room in India for intolerant Indians: President Pranab Mukherjee

Who will be President next year? Pranab da's term ending in a few months.

From wiki: A presidential election will be held in India before 25 July 2017, the day when the incumbent President's term expires. The Elect is eligible for re-election, as no term limits exist in India.
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This will happen from 2019 and the PM with President is working on it but congress is the main dushman and even if the President passes an ordinance the courts are there to overturn it on congi petitions.
I don't know whether it will. Ye Modi bhi baate badi badi karta hai. Jo kam karna woh tau nahi karta. What is the purpose of having a RSS man who is supposed to do stuff which will benefit nation for years to come.

Sonia is bimar, opposition is tithar bithar, Modi had the highest public good will for first 2 years. Tabhi aisa bada cheeze kar dalneka.

In fact it would be good for Modi if there were not constant elections. At least he would be able to take decisions without having to worry every few months what's going to happen. Now every damn election is like referendum and he is wasting so much energy in electioneering.

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Re: No room in India for intolerant Indians: President Pranab Mukherjee

No place for xyz in the country:
Is this also not an intolerant statement
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Re: No room in India for intolerant Indians: President Pranab Mukherjee

Such statements from the Prez has a subtle message that doesn't endorse the leftist methods and narrative without being overtly opposed or endorsing of any one side. That in itself drives a dagger through the heart of hardcore lefty chutiyas and RaGa type jokers.
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