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View Poll Results: What should be the punishment for rape ?
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Old March 30th, 2018, 06:50 PM
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Is it possible to add an option 'Slash Badriji's pandrainchi by 1 mm for every rape.'
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Why penalize Badri?
Didnt you recognize RR=Badri
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Didnt you recognize RR=Badri
Now that ought to get you -ve reps

No comments on the news article, what ??
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Re: Rape for Rape : What's your take ?

Rape is bad. Really bad - whoever is the victim. However, why do we consider only women getting raped? Not men?

Please see the US survey on rape statistics -
https://www.cdc.gov/violencepreventi...ReportBook.pdf

1. In table 3.1 page 18, the total number of women raped over a 12 month period is 1.73 million

2. In table 3.5 page 26 the figure for men is only 0.2 million

It appears that women are getting raped a lot more than man. This is because the researcher has separated "penetrated" (rape) and "made to penetrate" (not rape, but minor assault of non sexual nature). The figures for "made to penetrate" in the tables are female = 0 and male = 1.72 million. Also, if there were drinks involved, it is as though the man raped the woman, not the other way round.

Obviously women cannot penetrate. But we should look at "made to penetrate" as equally heinous, which we are not doing. That is why it appears that only men are raping.

Guys, what I am talking about is extra-ordinary serious. When a 30+ woman plays with a male boy's sexual organs (10-), it is as bad as a man of 30+ touching a girl of 10-. But we feel that the first one is a joke. The second one is perversion. But I know one such guy. I know what shit he is going through his whole like. Man, it is serious, very serious!!

Please, please recognize that when a teacher asks a student to "do things to her", else she will block his scholarship, it is coerced sex. The effect on the kid is equally great. If it is a woman she is called a "survivor" and hailed. If it is a guy he is called a "wimp". The effect on men is that much greater.

We have all seen such women. Yet we feel it is a joke, and not something to worry about. Ask ds who are your psychiatrists about the number of men who are hurting. Then you will know the truth!!
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Re: Rape for Rape : What's your take ?

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So, I guess you will vote for the third option, rape the rapist ?? Should shame the rapist, especially if done publicly.

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No, not the third option... which will put the whole ordeal into an infinite loop. If one rapes the rapist... then who will rape the rapist of the rapist What I was suggesting was a sociological experiment... where the immediate thought that comes into everyone's mind is "shame shame rapist". Where the rapist is laughed at when he is met socially... like, "saala ek ladki patt thi nahi is liye rape kiya". Where rapist hangs his/her head in shame when his/her name is announced. An automatic reaction... no loud clapping of hands or making the victim a special guest of honor. The victim goes around life as normal... but the rapist is ridiculed on every front.
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No, not the third option... which will put the whole ordeal into an infinite loop. If one rapes the rapist... then who will rape the rapist of the rapist What I was suggesting was a sociological experiment... where the immediate thought that comes into everyone's mind is "shame shame rapist". Where the rapist is laughed at when he is met socially... like, "saala ek ladki patt thi nahi is liye rape kiya". Where rapist hangs his/her head in shame when his/her name is announced. An automatic reaction... no loud clapping of hands or making the victim a special guest of honor. The victim goes around life as normal... but the rapist is ridiculed on every front.
semsem.... little difference is that my solution suggests ridiculing on the backside
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Rape is bad. Really bad - whoever is the victim. However, why do we consider only women getting raped? Not men?

Please see the US survey on rape statistics -
https://www.cdc.gov/violencepreventi...ReportBook.pdf

1. In table 3.1 page 18, the total number of women raped over a 12 month period is 1.73 million

2. In table 3.5 page 26 the figure for men is only 0.2 million

It appears that women are getting raped a lot more than man. This is because the researcher has separated "penetrated" (rape) and "made to penetrate" (not rape, but minor assault of non sexual nature). The figures for "made to penetrate" in the tables are female = 0 and male = 1.72 million. Also, if there were drinks involved, it is as though the man raped the woman, not the other way round.

Obviously women cannot penetrate. But we should look at "made to penetrate" as equally heinous, which we are not doing. That is why it appears that only men are raping.

Guys, what I am talking about is extra-ordinary serious. When a 30+ woman plays with a male boy's sexual organs (10-), it is as bad as a man of 30+ touching a girl of 10-. But we feel that the first one is a joke. The second one is perversion. But I know one such guy. I know what shit he is going through his whole like. Man, it is serious, very serious!!

Please, please recognize that when a teacher asks a student to "do things to her", else she will block his scholarship, it is coerced sex. The effect on the kid is equally great. If it is a woman she is called a "survivor" and hailed. If it is a guy he is called a "wimp". The effect on men is that much greater.

We have all seen such women. Yet we feel it is a joke, and not something to worry about. Ask ds who are your psychiatrists about the number of men who are hurting. Then you will know the truth!!
I think the point RR is trying to make is regardless of the gender.
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semsem.... little difference is that my solution suggests ridiculing on the backside
It is not the same thing. What you are saying will only increase the anger of the rapist... and he will just continue with a vengeance. Why because he is feeling humiliated at his core. What you are seeking for is individual revenge... what I am suggesting is social revamping. Big difference. You are wrong... I am right.
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It is not the same thing. What you are saying will only increase the anger of the rapist... and he will just continue with a vengeance. Why because he is feeling humiliated at his core. What you are seeking for is individual revenge... what I am suggesting is social revamping. Big difference. You are wrong... I am right.
Any kind of humiliation is likely to anger the perp (depending on the individual). He/she has already justified the act in his mind ("oh, she was asking for it", "she enjoyed it", "she is a whore", "look at her provocative clothes" etc..etc..), so doesn't really feel guilty. Any kind of penalty has to be imposed by the society.
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Any kind of humiliation is likely to anger the perp (depending on the individual). He/she has already justified the act in his mind ("oh, she was asking for it", "she enjoyed it", "she is a whore", "look at her provocative clothes" etc..etc..), so doesn't really feel guilty. Any kind of penalty has to be imposed by the society.
Every statement you mentioned to define the victim is one created by society. This is an issue with the society, not the victim or the culprit. In no other crime is the victim looked in a derogatory manner... this is the only crime.
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Every statement you mentioned to define the victim is one created by society. This is an issue with the society, not the victim or the culprit. In no other crime is the victim looked in a derogatory manner... this is the only crime.
Ok, so the society is thus diseased. Any suggestions for a cure ?? At least the society recognises the issue and is struggling to fight it.

BTW, there are many instances/situations, not criminal, where the victim is looked down upon. The society specializes in putting down its members, specially when they are down. But all that is a whole different topic. In case of rape, at least there are laws offering some protection and redressal to the victim.
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Rape has always been there. It will always be there whether you remove the stigma from it or not. That's why I have my serious doubts about sane's logic.
Rape for rape is not relevant anymore unless you are talking about a very under developed state.I am not even sure if this will fall under the State govt or the central govt.
What will stop (yes, stop) rape is to have a severe punishment. Like locking them away in god forbidden island and getting them to work for you (like manufacturing) from there. This is for life. There is no other way.
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Rape has always been there. It will always be there whether you remove the stigma from it or not. That's why I have my serious doubts about sane's logic.
Rape for rape is not relevant anymore unless you are talking about a very under developed state.I am not even sure if this will fall under the State govt or the central govt.
What will stop (yes, stop) rape is to have a severe punishment. Like locking them away in god forbidden island and getting them to work for you (like manufacturing) from there. This is for life. There is no other way.
Rape will and should always have stigma attached to it. Will never go away.
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Rape will and should always have stigma attached to it. Will never go away.
"should" ?

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