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echarcha
October 18th, 2000, 10:15 AM
Hi echarcha users,

I just got this in the email from some friend. Read on and draw your own conclusions and share your opinions.

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Interesting Stuff (With Malice towards one and all)

Our current National Anthem "Jana Gana Mana" is sung throughout the country. Did you know the following about our national anthem, I didn't.
This is actually very surprising but common that most of us have never paid heed to actually understand it truly.

Please go thru it and decide yourself.Fifty years of independence have come to pass and now nearly 900 million Indians take pride in singing their national anthem, it is amazing that most are not aware of its background and meaning.

I would like to bring to your attention the following facts of which you might be unaware.

I felt very sad that this is what we have been praising since sucn a long time, do you think its time to change. If yes, then lets do something about it.

THINK - ITS OUR COUNTRY & WHOM DO WE PRAISE ??

To begin with, India's national anthem, Jana Gana Mana Adhinayaka,was written by Rabindranath Tagore in honor of King George V and the Queen of England when they visited India in 1919. To honor their visit Pundit Motilal Nehru had the five stanzas included, which are in praise of the
King and Queen. (And most of us think it is in the praise of our great motherland !!)

The 'Jana Gana Mana Adhinayaka Jai He' implies Victory for King George who is the lord of the masses (Adhinayak) and 'Bharat Bhagya Vidhata' is "the bestower of good fortune".

In the original Bengali verses only those provinces that were under British rule, i.e.Punjab, Sindh, Gujarat, Maratha, Dravid, Utkal,Bang etc. were mentioned. None of the princely states were recognized which are integral parts of India now - Kashmir, Rajasthan, Andhra, Mysore or
Kerala.

Further it mentions Vindhya, Himachal, Yamuna and Ganga, but neither the Indian ocean nor the Arabian Sea were included, since they were directly under Portuguese rule at that time.

Following is a translation of the five stanzas which glorify the King:

1st stanza:
Tav shubh naame jaage : (Indian)People wake up remembering your good name
Tav shubh ashish mange : and ask for your blessings
Gahe tav jai gaatha : and they sing your glories.

2nd stanza:
Around your throne people of all religions come and give their love and anxiously wait to hear your kind words.

3rd stanza
Praise to the King for being the charioteer, for leading the ancient travelers beyond misery.

4th stanza
Drowned in the deep ignorance and suffering, poverty
stricken,unconscious country? waiting for the wink of your eye and your mother's (the Queen's)true protection.

5th stanza
In your compassionate plans, the sleeping Bharat (India) will wake up. We bow down to your feet O' Queen, and glory to Rajeshwara (the King) This whole poem does not indicate any love for the Motherland but depicts a
bleak picture.

When you sing Jana Gana Mana Adhinayaka, whom are you glorifying? Certainly not the Motherland. Is it God? The poem does not indicate that.

It is time now to understand the original purpose and the implication of this, rather than blindly sing as has been done the past fifty years.

Nehru chose the present national anthem as opposed to Vande Mataram because he thought that it would be easier for the band to play. It was an absurd reason but Today for that matter bands have advanced and they can very well play any music. So they can as well play Vande Mataram, which
is a far better composition in praise of our dear Motherland - India.

gandu
October 19th, 2000, 02:28 AM
Cool stuff ... never knew this one.

However, how true is it? Or is it a case of "its true because I hear it on the net"?

Shri

smartganduinuk
October 19th, 2000, 09:39 AM
Well as far as the translation is concerned, it is quite right, no doubts about that.
The fact is again true about most of the points made in the above posting.
But...
there are other interpretations of "Jana gana mana adhinayak jaya he bharat bhagya vidhata" - but adhinayak and vidhata could be interpreted in favour of India also.

laal_langot
October 19th, 2000, 09:58 AM
Well the history provided surely doesnt make very pleasant reading but then if we start questioning artefacts this way I think we will hardly be left with anything that would have an indisputably indigineous stamp on it.Everything from our postal system to our rail network owe most if not their entire existence to the colonial masters.The names of our cities(over which there has been a new found awakening and regression to OUR ROOTS if I may use the term)the architecture everything.In fact that may prompt one to ask that why has calcutta or delhi got to be part of the major metropolises in out country when there are other places like say vishakhapatnam or cochin which might have better locations if we take an international perspective.So I think we have to think wider than where the anthem originated and why it was composed.We have to probably look at it the way we want to-all the terms mentioned in the original post which were meant to pay an ode to HIS HIGHNESS could be very well used to address the nation as our mother.Though I certainly agree that Vande Matram is a much better composition and if the reason for it being overlooked was what has been articulated as the reason then surely there couldnt have been a bigger escapist truant than Nehru.

October 20th, 2000, 12:14 PM
You never know... it might be true... because Nehru was a real scoundrel... he always pandered to the British and always thought that his English education abroad automatically quialified him to be the first Prime Minister of India!

smartganduinuk
October 24th, 2000, 05:43 AM
Yep USG,
Agree with you 100% on that account. But mind you he was a very good diplomat and politician. And it was because of him that other leaders could not really shine although there was lot of potential. Sardar Patel did make a significant contribution towards uniting all the princely states and having what we know as "India".

Siraj
November 10th, 2000, 09:33 AM
Another big ashamed things for us. The name India, The title Indians, The religion Name Hindu, Change of loards name from Ram to Rama, the Indian History, now add one more thing to the national shame: The national anthem.

Mahatma Gandhi! Agar tum na hote!

me
November 10th, 2000, 10:03 AM
Why is everyone digging graves?

Concentrate on building pillars.

Ravi
December 16th, 2000, 02:27 AM
I understand your concern and also of those others.
It's not true that 'Jana Gana Mana' was sung in the feets of the George thing.
I am not sure if you know that Ravindranath Tagore rejected the award of knighthood ( one gets called 'Sir' by virtue of which) conferred to him by the English Queeen. Hence I derive the conclusion that 'Jana Gana Mana' wan't sung for Queen.

jay
December 16th, 2000, 03:12 AM
This letter brings out atleast one fact....

many of us were singing the national anthem without knowing it's actual meaning.

Our national anthem should not have anything to do with king George V or any kings or queens at all. The days of the monarchy are over.. Only a song for mother land seems appropriate.

The national anthem should be changed with simpler and relevant words so that we can comprehend them and relate to it.

The national anthem is recently being changed in Russia, so can it be done in India.

Ravi
December 17th, 2000, 01:47 AM
Jay,

I understand your concern that not many people understand the meaning of our Jana Gana Mana.

However, There are two distinct things I would like to highlight.

1. Jana Gana Mana is after all not a difficult song to understand. Whoever went to a decent school (and non convent) or whoever had education in his/her mother tongue upto 10th standard wont find it difficult to understand.

2. If you are brought up in Cities, especially metros, you probably never sang Jana Gana Mana in school. Infact, today's syllabus doesn't require all the students to have a common prayer ('prarthana') before the classes begin in school. This problem has existed for a very long time, infact for a couple of decades in the convent schools where student read more about Jesus than about there freedom struggle or Jana Gana Mana. I don't mean to undermine the importance of Jesus, but the highlight is that the management in such schools make sure you dont know abcd about your country.

HarHarMahaDev
April 9th, 2007, 02:33 PM
:eek: :eek:

This is a crazy-ass conspiracy theory...but somehow makes sense and fits into my overall view that the freedom struggle, as taught in schools, is a sham...the real heroes of India have sacrificed their lives and remain anonymous...