Serious answers please - Putting the zing back into eCharcha.Com [Archive]

echarcha

June 3rd, 2002, 05:28 PM

Folks,

I have been quite busy at work and honestly I have not paid much attention to eCharcha for the past few weeks.

I do log in and read some threads from time to time but not with the same dedication as before.

Then we had some morons who just were into bashing religion, India and what have you! For such morons I have an offer. Pay me $500/year and I will set up a site for such purposes where you can enjoy your own one dimensional rantings!

Well, its time to introspect and find out what can be done to improve the site.

Other than software enhancements like having some smashing new feature can we discuss what needs to be done to bring back the zing? I have really started missing the old days of good discussions by some of our old members who hardly log in these days.

Please feel free to discuss and post your opinions.

One thing I am going to enforce is rooting out multiple id's especially of those folks who create such ids and then reveal them all. :down:

echarcha

June 3rd, 2002, 05:47 PM

but I wish I could award one or two eCharchans every month for starting some really good threads every couple of days!

Super Girl

June 3rd, 2002, 05:53 PM

I agree, echarcha.

I miss Man of La mancha and Shahenshah. I miss having those nice discussions which were not religion. I know Padhu is very busy with work so...

I miss the nicely nuanced relationship threads.

Those humor threads where each one had their turn at being screwed - royally too :D

I miss those meaningless rhetorrcs which we indulged into when someone started the thread with the idea of religion or caste bashing.....

Maybe that what we need is to voluntarily stop responding to religion based and country bashing thread and the caste threads.

I miss the threads where we could just say anything without being abused verbally.

You get my drift? :D

In short we need to get back all of the above said points back and well too...

and we have to figure out why some of those senior members left and figure out a way to get them back.. if indeed they did leave because of decline in the atmosphere.

krantikari

June 3rd, 2002, 06:01 PM

Keep aside bashing and stuff.... tell me SG, what is wrong is discussing religions? I just don't understand. If you think "religion" talks is some kind of evil, then let us all know and we stop this thing forever. This is not the first time I have heard a moderator or admin speaking so. Or otherwise, if you are specifically talking about "bashing", then say so explicitly. Just don't go on saying "religion talks" or "religion posts". If the forums don't want this type of posts, why don't we stop it forever ??!!??

PS : I am talking about the first line of your post which talks about "religion" and not "religion bashing". I got an impression that "religion discussions" were not "nice". Pls clarify.

videsee

June 3rd, 2002, 06:04 PM

Kranti .....I don't think Super G meant rational discussions the way you do......she meant some other wierdos.......

Sunit, here are my suggestions:

1. Post of the month
2. Reply of the month

Both these come with a star (different colors_ which you will put in.....like its on ebay;)

and to discourage others:

You can also have a BAH! of the month.......to those who need it!

I hnestly don't think one needs a cash prize.....

my 0.0002cents;)

Super Girl

June 3rd, 2002, 06:05 PM

I am sorry If I misstated it, Krantikari.

My point is that mostly when it comes to discussing religions, by which i mean comparing religions, it invariably ends up as religion bashing.

I actually enjoy reading your kind of discussions, but not the ones that turn into ugly retaliatory war of words.

I do not like it when peolpe start a relgion based thread with hate in mind and with the idea of ruffling feathers and for adding fuel to fire.

aurangjeb

June 3rd, 2002, 06:06 PM

that's better,
as our leaders sit down and talk at almati,
this is the sprit......:up:
instead of getting mad and selectively banning this is a better approach.....

we I mean all of cyber fidayeen(I like that term coined by gpel sankar) call a truce but under one condition..you have to stop all rightist elements by not force but diplomacy and that is the message....
you can't ban anyone..there are ways to change IP's I don't do it but I know who does....

people like chirag and some other soldiers of a particular cult shall be taken care of....
They put up topics which are technically not into the banning criteria but are coercive......
the same logic when you ban SIMI but not Bajrang dal???

don't do that mistake....

.....make friends and not enemies Sunit that's my advic/se to you.

...if we see encouraging results we may do something to bring back zing otherwise this will be a hate forum...

:up:

videsee

June 3rd, 2002, 06:12 PM

Originally posted by aurangjeb
...if we see encouraging results we may do something to bring back zing otherwise this will be a hate forum...

How much do YOU and people like you contribute to the hate?

Wanna do a poll?

DesiBaba

June 3rd, 2002, 06:15 PM

mah humble apologies to u mah brotho sunit man :( i m really sorry..sometimes i feel that people like me have screwed up tha echarcha atmosphere beyond repair.

i have read many old threads where the discussions have been "top class". quality waz the name of the game...be it writing or even "leg-pulling".

manoflamancha,urself,mah brotho biggie,pelu,videsee,SG,shahenshah and tha eva amusing smelly were the ones who starred in A1 quality threads.

good and meaningful discussions were tha order of tha day.

well and now here come people like me who indulge in bantering of tha lowest order..what with threads like "most komal/sensitive female" :rolleyes: ...man...feel like a dimwit now... :rolleyes:

all i can promise ya mah brotho mangalsutra is that,i will refrain from posting 1 liners with mah 1 million smileys (although thats gonna be real tough for me man :(..real tough) and will neva eva start threads where theres bound to be no healthy discussion.

echarcha for me is like mah "learning center" and i wanna learn in a place where i get the best stuff to learn.just as u need to admit intelligent students in order to maintain the ranking of tha school,similarly discussions need to be of the highest quality in order to bring tha Zing back into echarcha.

once again,mah apologies sunit...and i will try mah level best to fulfill what i have promised above...

dirty

June 3rd, 2002, 06:16 PM

That's a fake aurangzeb. Look at his number of posts. So Booooooooo !

Ya let's have a eharchan of moth & honor him by doing a tribute to him . SOmething abt him (not personal !) , some of his postings. SOmething good he has said or something dumb etc.
Let's have echarcha awards with all categories every month!

Fei

June 3rd, 2002, 06:17 PM

Originally posted by aurangjeb
that's better,
as our leaders sit down and talk at almati,
this is the sprit......:up:
instead of getting mad and selectively banning this is a better approach.....

we I mean all of cyber fidayeen(I like that term coined by gpel sankar) call a truce but under one condition..you have to stop all rightist elements by not force but diplomacy and that is the message....
you can't ban anyone..there are ways to change IP's I don't do it but I know who does....

people like chirag and some other soldiers of a particular cult shall be taken care of....
They put up topics which are technically not into the banning criteria but are coercive......
the same logic when you ban SIMI but not Bajrang dal???

don't do that mistake....

.....make friends and not enemies Sunit that's my advic/se to you.

...if we see encouraging results we may do something to bring back zing otherwise this will be a hate forum...

:up:

lagta hai aurnanga ne kapda pahen liya hei hehe :D :D shayid nahi ......

DesiBaba

June 3rd, 2002, 06:18 PM

Originally posted by aurangjeb
that's better,
as our leaders sit down and talk at almati,
this is the sprit......:up:
instead of getting mad and selectively banning this is a better approach.....

we I mean all of cyber fidayeen(I like that term coined by gpel sankar) call a truce but under one condition..you have to stop all rightist elements by not force but diplomacy and that is the message....
you can't ban anyone..there are ways to change IP's I don't do it but I know who does....

people like chirag and some other soldiers of a particular cult shall be taken care of....
They put up topics which are technically not into the banning criteria but are coercive......
the same logic when you ban SIMI but not Bajrang dal???

don't do that mistake....

.....make friends and not enemies Sunit that's my advic/se to you.

...if we see encouraging results we may do something to bring back zing otherwise this will be a hate forum...

:up:

and people like these need to be banned immidiately without any delay...u can well see tha patriotism that this rascal has within him..dhurandhar bhat giving fundas about Islam..tha rascal..and check out this side of his..all tha way down to auranjeb..rascal..

people like these aint needed.period.

videsee

June 3rd, 2002, 06:18 PM

Kya yaar Dirty.......pehchaane nahin is naye ID ko?

Jassoossi karo!
Jaasoos ko pakdo!;) :D :D

Super Girl

June 3rd, 2002, 06:19 PM

Originally posted by videsee
Kya yaar Dirty.......pehchaane nahin is naye ID ko?

Jassoossi karo!
Jaasoos ko pakdo!;) :D :D

my feelings exactly :D

DesiBaba

June 3rd, 2002, 06:27 PM

allrighty folks..need to go to work early tomorrow mornin!

good nite...sleep tight yall :)

tantric_yogi

June 3rd, 2002, 07:41 PM

Originally posted by echarcha
One thing I am going to enforce is rooting out multiple id's especially of those folks who create such ids and then reveal them all. :down:
PLEASE DO THIS TODAY. Nothing is more insulting.

I have tried and failed. Can anyone please point me to a single echarcha style site ZINGIER? I have tried and found none.

Of course there always is room for improvement but let's not become too self critical either. I think echarcha is doing just fabulous! I mean it. Those who take life seriously are to be found at KURUKHSHETRA and hundred other such chat sites … NO THANKS. I would rather be at echarcha, neither am I suggesting you take the limits of my field of vision, for the limits of the world.

Reason some or most of us are here because we are having fun and in the process learning new things about each other, our professions, cultures, and religion. We are sharing in the spirit of fun, camaraderie and being merry. CALL ME BLIND EDDY FOR I SEE NOTHING LACKING HERE AT ECHARCHA WHICH IS TO BE FOUND ANYWHERE ELSE. SORRY if I am being a killjoy. I think echarcha is unique.

Now for those who have left and or are missing. Duniya hai. Log ayenge. Log jayenge. Let's not weep for those who have left but enjoy those who are here with us.

Here are few words from SANT RAMDAS: ""At some stage you will experience a plateau - as if everything had stopped. This is a hard point in the journey. Know that once the process has started
It does not stop from where you are looking.""

:up: SUNIT, Please stand up and take credit. For a one man show, you have done well! Stop being self critical for if you are not going to sound your own bugle no one else is going to do it for you. Kaljug hai, BhaYa ...

This is the only place where dozen or so LLKC's can come and dare to put in to words what is sure to be rediculed on smart sites.

These are the only three sites on my desktop not related to my work: 1. ECHARCHA 2. GM and 3. Dooddie.com :D

chirag2000

June 3rd, 2002, 08:08 PM

hmmm

dhurru...... yes.. "people like chirag and some other soldiers of a particular cult shall be taken care of.... They put up topics which are technically not into the banning criteria but are coercive......"

Which post are you talking about??? You come out with all that stuff on hinduism and shivlings ... idhar se koi islam pe kuch bola

Once we had exchanged some Pms And one statement of yours sticks in my mind

"See communications like these can make us understand each other and resolve the growing alienation"

Now Dhurru ....what are you doing here

1]Trying to intice the muslims here ...... jaagoo muslamaannn isalm khatrey mein hai

2]Making some non fundamentalist hindus into fundamnetalists

Now ..What purpose wil this serve

another thing is... if someone is not liked somewhere...and they make it clear to you ..and they go a step ahead to kick you out...
a person will self respect doesnt come there....

what i wud suggest to you dhurru ..is... as you are so smart ... why dont you
go ahead and put up your own site like this one.. .based on anti-hindu and anti-india thoughs ,..

tantric_yogi

June 3rd, 2002, 09:49 PM

Originally posted by echarcha
but I wish I could award one or two eCharchans every month for starting some really good threads every couple of days!
make it cash and I too will start
push... push... pushing up my threads every
24 hours or so :D ... LOL ...

Challo bhaYa last day at work ... challe thein ...

:) Super meri behna, nice cartoon ... I am waiting for it to disappear from main page before I push it back up with my comments :) ...HAHAHAHAHA :clap:

aurangjeb

June 3rd, 2002, 11:16 PM

okie all said and undone....
let the deeds speak and not lip service...
We demand immediate lifting of ban on our beloved Dhurru..and let there be Zing on EC...
We miss him dearly...
and this is last and final call alas he will disappear in the great Abyss....

So Sunit maan do it....or this site will soon become without a jasoos a real fact finding behind scenes coverage...
Who will expose Videsee who is an Alien,Chirag who is a nun and biggie who is an abSURD.....:D :D :D

YOUR TIME STARTS NOW....:smash:

videsee

June 3rd, 2002, 11:21 PM

Hmmmmm and I thought electric shocks, psychotherapy and medication could cure schizophrenia!

Living with schizophrenia: It's possible with medication

ATLANTA (CNN) -- Names such as Russell Weston Jr., Theodore Kaczynski and John Hinckley Jr. evoke a frightening image of schizophrenia. But more often than not, that image is not accurate for many who suffer from the disorder.

Charlie Chastain said most people are surprised to find out he has schizophrenia. He developed the tell-tale signs of the brain disease when he was 15.

"He became paranoid, very paranoid, and believe it or not, that's a very hard thing to discover in a child," said his mother, Mary Ella Chastain. "When they start staying in their room, you don't necessarily know that they think people are outside the windows trying to get in."

Chastain's parents were told to expect the worst.

"He would spend the majority of his life in a locked facility and we'd be visiting on holidays, and the family should be prepared to adjust to that," Mary Ella Chastain said.

But that's not how life turned out for Charlie Chastain. Now 27, he has a college degree in psychology and a full-time job as an advocate for mental health patients in Clayton County, Georgia.

He leads a support group for the mentally ill and hopes one day to go to graduate school.

Chastain attributes much of his success to finding the right medication four years after his first break with reality.

"I really think that if I went off my medicine, I would end up in a psychiatric hospital," he said.

That fear motivates him to continue his treatment. Unfortunately, among people with schizophrenia, Chastain is the exception, not the rule.

Dr. E. Fuller Torrey, a leader in schizophrenia research, said the main reason people don't get help is that they don't realize they are sick.

Doctors say Russell Weston, who is accused of fatally shooting two Capitol Hill police officers in July, is a good example.

"When you say to someone like Mr. Weston, 'You should take your medication,' he would say 'Why do I need medication? There's nothing wrong with me,'" Torrey explains.

Also, treatment isn't always easy to get, and medications are expensive and often have bad side effects.

Even if patients get treatment, they often abandon it.

"You take your medicine, your voices stop, your delusional thinking stops, you start feeling better," Torrey said. "You say to yourself, 'Gee, I'm not sick anymore.'"

Events like the Capitol Hill shooting also help create one of the biggest barriers for schizophrenics -- a stigma.

"When I see those horror stories, it just takes me apart, particularly the Weston family when they interviewed the mother and father, because I know how hard they tried to get treatment for their son," Mary Ella Chastain said.

Her son said such well-publicized events are a setback for people like him.

"They see, 'Oh, he killed the president and, of course, he has schizophrenia or, of course -- he's bipolar,'" he said, referring to the psychotic disorder characterized by alternating periods of depression and mania. "I think it's a misrepresentation."

:D :D :D

chirag2000

June 3rd, 2002, 11:43 PM

You must accept this db... everyone here talks nicely with you even though you speak the things you speak....

AND +++++++++ im not a christain,.. whatevery got that in your head.... i saw this earlier as well...... and its pissin me off.... for gods sake...oops..i aint a christian of any denomination..... .a hindoo kaffar as you call it...is more preferable...++++++++++

Oh..and one thing..no one misses you dearly..... and dissappear into abyss... nah... ..you shall die by a kaffars bullet in yor sick head....... sitting pretty somewhere in gulf.... kabhi na kabhi to hindusthan aayegaa...... fir baat karte hai kaatve

aurangjeb

June 3rd, 2002, 11:56 PM

see cha pa I ignore blatant provocative coercive attempts....
I ignore a Padri/nun and i will not give definition of hemmroid which is actually the disease of the concerned and not schizophrenia :D

I have a few siggestions,but not without getting back mah usual ID....or else..ban me...
CHIRAAG IS A CHRISTIAN MISSIONARY
he PM me with his address and what we found...a church at the assigned address.....;)
and I'll report this to moderators....he confuse between religion and nationality..
he calleing me a katva, is not videsee a katva also,what sayeing:D

tantric_yogi

June 4th, 2002, 12:52 AM

Originally posted by aurangjeb
I have a few siggestions,but not without getting back mah usual ID....or else..ban me...

and your usual ID is ..............

chirag2000

June 4th, 2002, 12:58 AM

Halleluah Brothers.............. sorry Lord for I`ve sinned.. .. Please save my soul sweet lord.... Praise the Lord ....praise Jesus.... Come to jesus everyone ..all your sins will be washed away.... .. ....Halleluah :D :D :D :D

tantric_yogi

June 4th, 2002, 01:43 AM

Originally posted by DesiBaba
well and now here come people like me who indulge in bantering of tha lowest order..what with threads like "most komal/sensitive female" :rolleyes: ...man...feel like a dimwit now... :rolleyes:

Welcome to LLKC ... BhaYa saabh log to hiro nahin ban sakte na ... side roles ke liye bi to character actors chahiyein ki nahin?

Sabh log ko lectures kadne do, :clap: bajane walle bi to chahiyein ki nahin?

Cheer up brother for my day is undone without reading some oneliners from Desi Baba ... I mean it! No shit. If I only have 5 to 7 minutes to spare, I go stgraigght in to search and look for few. I am sure to leave echarcha feeling light headed. Some of us do come here for fun and to learn.

:) kaho naa llkc haiiinnnnnnn.

bakchatter

June 4th, 2002, 02:33 AM

Chalo hindu, Muslim, Christian ke bajaay derail derail khelte hain.

Aaj lunch mein Chole-Bhature khaaye aur ab its 3 in the afternoon aur mujhe bahut neend aa rahee hai... bolo kya karoo... :confused:

By the way, Mr Manoj Kumar said that there was no woman in Bhagat Singh's life. I wonder why does Santoshi and sunny need to put a fictitious romantic angle in the movie. :confused: :confused:

bakchatter

June 4th, 2002, 02:37 AM

Originally posted by tantric_yogi

:) kaho naa llkc haiiinnnnnnn.

Nahi bolunga... mai LLKC nahi hoon jo chahe kar lo. :mad:

SlyBoots

June 4th, 2002, 03:04 AM

Originally posted by echarcha
Folks,

One thing I am going to enforce is rooting out multiple id's especially of those folks who create such ids and then reveal them all. :down:

I am in full support of this decision of yours .:up:

Start with me first , and reveal all my id's each and everyone of them .

You will be doing me a great favour by doing so , as many folks keep PMing me thinking me thinking me to be Aurangzeb / Aurangjeb , dhurandhar , dhurandhar bhatt , Rose Mery Mar Lo , Suhasini , Anjula78 .....and so on so forth.......

I had already revealved some of my id's in some earlier thread ....u reveal the rest ....and do me the favour....

Also if required for the betterment of the site please delete all my posts also from all those id's , and even from this id <SlyBoots.>

I am in absolute amicable :)blind support with you in this matter .

June 4th, 2002, 05:26 AM

Sunit bro i like the idea suggested by vid pai to start post/reply/bah of the day/week/month. and please do also start a bashing forum so all those morons who really want to ***** and whine abouts other religion can still take out their frustration and make this forum only for basher subscriber.

I really miss the charchans like manoflmancha, lal langot, shanshah to name a few.

wish that we get the zing back on this site.

tantric_yogi

June 4th, 2002, 05:26 AM

Originally posted by SlyBoots

Also if required for the betterment of the site please delete all my posts also from all those id's , and even from this id <SlyBoots.>

I am in absolute amicable :)blind support with you in this matter .
SLY, stop. SORRY.

Sutrdarji a HUMBLE REQUEST ... KINDLY remove permanently, whatever button you use to erase entire posts of a banned echarchan ... NOT FAIR. With all due respect to your authority, yaar kal ko hum aap ko kissi baat pad naraz karenge aur aap gusse mein hamaara pura ka pura janampatri erase kar denge?

I believe SLY has in his own intelligent way contributed some great threads and replies to echarcha. Erasing his contributions will be a loss. Just my three cents worth.

tantric_yogi

June 4th, 2002, 05:30 AM

Originally posted by bakchatter

Nahi bolunga... mai LLKC nahi hoon jo chahe kar lo. :mad:
Yeh lo ek aur double id ... Hum desi ko bola and reply diya bakchat ji nein ... pakde gaye :D ...

Hum sab LLKC hein?

SimpleHuman

June 4th, 2002, 06:02 AM

Sunit,

Honestly I belive you cant stop any bashing thread here, coz the folks who wants to be part of it they will do it no matter what happens.

I found a good thread, just read the subject read a few lines if its worth the carry on otherwise simply... IGNORE!

Finally some kind of recongnization for best thread and best reply would be a real good step. All I know till eCharcha would be around I will keep visiting it :)

DesiBaba

June 4th, 2002, 06:58 AM

Originally posted by tantric_yogi

Yeh lo ek aur double id ... Hum desi ko bola and reply diya bakchat ji nein ... pakde gaye :D ...

Hum sab LLKC hein?

hehehe..man,backchatter is from Pune...kya tantric,meri sumdi meiN le rela haiN tu :(

GpeL

June 4th, 2002, 07:42 AM

Le li le li.. is thread ki bhi Angu alias dhurru and Chirag ne le li.. :D :D..

I like it the way it is.. and yes I would love to have the thread of the month stuff.. It will be cool. Also I like the idea of deleting mulitple id's (leave mine though :D :D)

Diplomat

June 4th, 2002, 08:31 AM

aurangJeb????

twin brother of aurangZeb?

:D

chirag2000

June 4th, 2002, 08:31 AM

Originally posted by GpeL
Le li le li.. is thread ki bhi Angu alias dhurru and Chirag ne le li.. :D :D..

I like it the way it is.. and yes I would love to have the thread of the month stuff.. It will be cool. Also I like the idea of deleting mulitple id's (leave mine though :D :D)

Thread ki le li????... kya koi kauli kaakdi hai kya jo le li.. hehe

Thread of the week rather.... hafte bhar mein kounsa topic ekdum jhakaas tha.... mast replies aaya aisa ... maybe even .. echarchan of the month.. feliciataions... award cermonies.. ..$500 from admin...hehe.;) :D

laal_langot

June 4th, 2002, 09:55 AM

Originally posted by echarcha
Folks,

Other than software enhancements like having some smashing new feature can we discuss what needs to be done to bring back the zing?

to get the zing back 1 2 cha cha cha ji we will all have to stand like in morning assembly everyday and sing ZINGa LA LA HU ZINGa LA LA HU..... HURR HURR HURR HURR(and the hurr hurr has to be from the heart).....maybe that we can being i.e lao the zing...

GpeL

June 4th, 2002, 09:56 AM

got pai.. missed you like hell man.. where you been?

DesiBaba

June 4th, 2002, 09:56 AM

laal_langot man...welcome back mah bud... :up:

Super Girl

June 4th, 2002, 09:57 AM

welcome goatee pai...

where've ya been?

laal_langot

June 4th, 2002, 10:01 AM

Abhi saare milte hi rahogay ya gareeb aadmi ko bithaa ke paani bhi puchhoge??:(

well better to ask where havent I been....

laal_langot

June 4th, 2002, 10:02 AM

waise itni khatirdaari ke liye thankyou haiga hai aap saaron ko....

GpeL

June 4th, 2002, 10:05 AM

Originally posted by laal_langot
Abhi saare milte hi rahogay ya gareeb aadmi ko bithaa ke paani bhi puchhoge??:(

well better to ask where havent I been....

Paani kyaa pai.. lo beer piyo.. :cheers:

Acha ab bolo where havent you been?

laal_langot

June 4th, 2002, 10:13 AM

Beer pilaa ke mehmaan ko tight karte ho???mehmaan athwaa bhagwaan ke saath aiyaashi giri?

I havent been to Mahduri's home pale pai and thats what matters

GpeL

June 4th, 2002, 10:15 AM

Oh kyon dukhti hui nasur ko phir taaza kar diyaa.. hai re madhuri... tere ghar ke saamne ek ghar banaunga.. tere ghar ke saamne..

Got pai.. ye Goti se chaddi tak kaa safar jaldi jaldi ab tay kar lo.. viking praa ki chaddi to khaan baba le gaye.. ab yahan par chaddi waalon ki taadaad kum ho gayi.. aap hi us post ko sambhaal lo..

aurangjeb

June 4th, 2002, 10:16 AM

chalo sasura laloo langotia aa gawa...
hum sochan rahin ke kahin...koi gora ise "pink" langotia to nahin dikha diwa...

:D

GpeL

June 4th, 2002, 10:17 AM

Dhurru pai.. apna signature badal lo.. that one belongs to that old angu the nangu.. tum kuch nayaa signature le kar aao.. you are creative enuf for that I reckon?

aurangjeb

June 4th, 2002, 10:34 AM

Originally posted by GpeL
Dhurru pai.. apna signature badal lo.. that one belongs to that old angu the nangu.. tum kuch nayaa signature le kar aao.. you are creative enuf for that I reckon?
okie..hain kaisa laga new signaturewa??hain hain

GpeL

June 4th, 2002, 10:37 AM

That is funny.. :D :D

echarcha

June 4th, 2002, 10:38 AM

Thanks for your enthusiastic responses.

One point - Mr. new aurangjb let me tell you - the older aurangzeb was a Paki but he never has written abusive words. He used to incite us as he is a dedicated Paki. You on the other hand resort to crappy language and stupid accusations without substance.

I am liberal to the extent to listen to what a Paki has to say, but not to your kind of crap.

To other eCharchans - folks please use the Rate This Thread option so that we can see the best and worst threads. I will modify the scripts to pull up the BEST/WORST threads up on the main page based on the rating system which is already built inot the software.

More later... just got to work.... Will write more later...

Fei

June 4th, 2002, 11:46 AM

Originally posted by tantric_yogi

PLEASE DO THIS TODAY. Nothing is more insulting.

I have tried and failed. Can anyone please point me to a single echarcha style site ZINGIER? I have tried and found none.

Of course there always is room for improvement but let's not become too self critical either. I think echarcha is doing just fabulous! I mean it. Those who take life seriously are to be found at KURUKHSHETRA and hundred other such chat sites … NO THANKS. I would rather be at echarcha, neither am I suggesting you take the limits of my field of vision, for the limits of the world.

Reason some or most of us are here because we are having fun and in the process learning new things about each other, our professions, cultures, and religion. We are sharing in the spirit of fun, camaraderie and being merry. CALL ME BLIND EDDY FOR I SEE NOTHING LACKING HERE AT ECHARCHA WHICH IS TO BE FOUND ANYWHERE ELSE. SORRY if I am being a killjoy. I think echarcha is unique.

Now for those who have left and or are missing. Duniya hai. Log ayenge. Log jayenge. Let's not weep for those who have left but enjoy those who are here with us.

Here are few words from SANT RAMDAS: ""At some stage you will experience a plateau - as if everything had stopped. This is a hard point in the journey. Know that once the process has started
It does not stop from where you are looking.""

:up: SUNIT, Please stand up and take credit. For a one man show, you have done well! Stop being self critical for if you are not going to sound your own bugle no one else is going to do it for you. Kaljug hai, BhaYa ...

This is the only place where dozen or so LLKC's can come and dare to put in to words what is sure to be rediculed on smart sites.

These are the only three sites on my desktop not related to my work: 1. ECHARCHA 2. GM and 3. Dooddie.com :D

there is an option in vbulletint to keep one ID per email address

SlyBoots

June 4th, 2002, 11:49 AM

and that is provide the links for those threads which have recieved the maximum number of replies so far .

U can put a heading like top ten or top five threads based on the number of replies.

Secondly , presently their is just no way to search for only those posts (image searching)which have pics in them .Can u somehow make it possible .

I am asking for this , because the moment I saw the pics posted by u (Andaman and Nicobar) I was like WOW I had missed some of the best pics in my life.

Even if it's difficult to do the tweaking with the tempelates , please do it whenever u have some time .

I am not saying u do it right now ....jab bhee fursat mile....

Aur kaisaa fedback chaahye aapko...bataa do .....agar meri id's and postings delete karne se kuch bhalaa hotaa ho toh mujhe usme bhee koi etraaj nahin hai ...though I will be sticking to the present id only for ever and for ever :)

echarcha

June 4th, 2002, 11:49 AM

Originally posted by Fei

there is an option in vbulletint to keep one ID per email address

I know this option exists. Yet I did not invoke it because I wanted some folks to have a couple of ids. Many times having multiple ids helps to present your different side without having to reveal who is who.

Yet some folks have misused it. I guess I will invoke that option now.

SlyBoots

June 4th, 2002, 12:21 PM

hayn i guess that option has already been invoked right from the day the site started .

Everytime I submitted my old mail address I got the message that , a user already has this mail address and so u have to choose a different mail id .

HAd their been a way to open multiple id's on a single mail address I wud have myself done it long time back:confused:

SlyBoots

June 4th, 2002, 12:25 PM

which I have asked beofre thrice ....

Why is the background color of the Film Forum kept different from the rest of the forums?

OR is it only onmy comp that this particular forum appears in a different colour:confused:

I find that color very irritating as I am now used to the color of the remaining forums.

MAny times I have asked this question and everytime this has been ignored .WHY ?

echarcha

June 4th, 2002, 12:27 PM

Originally posted by SlyBoots
which I have asked beofre thrice ....

Why is the background color of the Film Forum kept different from the rest of the forums?

OR is it only onmy comp that this particular forum appears in a different colour:confused:

I find that color very irritating as I am now used to the color of the remaining forums.

MAny times I have asked this question and everytime this has been ignored .WHY ?

Correct.. I have that option set to on.

Well, still people create fake accounts using Yahoo or Hotmail and then abuse the system.

Well.. so be it... I know that people really dont care for stupid postings by fake ids.

SlyBoots

June 4th, 2002, 12:36 PM

quote kis post ko kar rahe ho , aur reply kis post ko ka rrahe ho :d

JUST read very carefully what have u quoted:D and what have u replied to :D.....One of us is drunk today :D

SlyBoots

June 4th, 2002, 12:44 PM

Bhaiyaa echarcha , kaahe meri multiple id's ke peeche pad gaye ho ...maine toh jub se slyboots id banaayee hai . kisee aur id kee taraf aankh uthaa ke bhee nahin dekhaa ....aur mai toh khud chaahtaa hoon aur vintee kartaa hoon , kee meri saari id's along with all the moronic stupid postings should be deleted immediately, except the <SlyBoots> id .....:).You know al lmy id's , please delete them and trust me I will be very very happy on seeing my crap getting cleaned for free ...

Charchila

June 4th, 2002, 02:03 PM

Originally posted by SlyBoots
...and trust me I will be very very happy on seeing my crap getting cleaned for free ...

Who said it's going to be free? :o :p

echarcha, is there a way to moderate the threads posted by certain people? I mean, if you know that a specific person creates new meaningless threads... all the new threads posted by that person has to be approved by the moderator before they're available to the public. Once we stop these stupid posts, you'll be able to see the better ones. Just a thought... :)

GpeL

June 4th, 2002, 02:10 PM

Originally posted by Charchila

echarcha, is there a way to moderate the threads posted by certain people? I mean, if you know that a specific person creates new meaningless threads... all the new threads posted by that person has to be approved by the moderator before they're available to the public. Once we stop these stupid posts, you'll be able to see the better ones. Just a thought... :)

Charchilla.. ye kyaa yaar.. I dont think "specific" people can get tagged but all of us can..The problem is moderators are not always logged in. Also most of them are working fulltime some where or the other and so it will be impossible for the few to actually "approve" the hundereds of thread that gets started or replied to.. so I dunno if that can be done.. but I will let kharcha pai have his opinion on this.. if particular users can be tagged nothing like it.. but not all moderators think alike.. I am a little bindas at times and very strict at other times and so are the other moderators affected by the outside weather.. so it will not be a uniform thing..

SlyBoots

June 4th, 2002, 02:17 PM

Charchilaa jee since u have suggested such a noble idea , may I also request u to give the names of those certain peoples along with the links for their meaningless threads .....

You can start with me :) and my threads ...

Charchila

June 4th, 2002, 02:40 PM

Originally posted by GpeL

Charchilla.. ye kyaa yaar.. I dont think "specific" people can get tagged but all of us can..The problem is moderators are not always logged in. Also most of them are working fulltime some where or the other and so it will be impossible for the few to actually "approve" the hundereds of thread that gets started or replied to.. so I dunno if that can be done.. but I will let kharcha pai have his opinion on this.. if particular users can be tagged nothing like it.. but not all moderators think alike.. I am a little bindas at times and very strict at other times and so are the other moderators affected by the outside weather.. so it will not be a uniform thing..

You are right, and I thought about your points that
1. Hundreds of posts per day
2. Mods are not on all the time
3. Mods have a life.. I mean full time jobs

That's why I suggested to narrow it down to the "specific" people (and you probably know who they are). I also noticed that its the usual people (maybe 20-25?) who post regularly out of ~850 users, and many have a good reputation here and there's no need to monitor them. And if there are too many posts to approve, maybe an additional or two moderators can be helpful.

Since moderators are not always online, SlyBoots can come out handy :D :D He's always online when I am on ;) (just joking guys)
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Here's the 2nd idea:

Encourage everyone to use "Report this post to a moderator" feature, as well as rating the thread.

To ensure the quality of the posts, if the rating is below (say) 2 stars with a minimum number (10, 15, 20??) of votes, delete the thread... unless the moderators think otherwise.

echarcha

June 4th, 2002, 02:46 PM

Originally posted by Charchila

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Here's the 2nd idea:

Encourage everyone to use "Report this post to a moderator" feature, as well as rating the thread.

I like this and urge all to use it. Thank you sir!

Charchila

June 4th, 2002, 02:49 PM

Originally posted by SlyBoots
Charchilaa jee since u have suggested such a noble idea , may I also request u to give the names of those certain peoples along with the links for their meaningless threads .....

You can start with me :) and my threads ...

Sly... sorry if you thought I was pointing fingers at you, I wasn't. I know you want to be the one.. good luck with that. :D :up:

I've come across many meaningless threads, trust me... and I am sure you know some of those. I don't feel like digging out those right now. But like someone said earlier, I enjoy some (don't take it literary) of your posts too.. :)

SlyBoots

June 4th, 2002, 02:53 PM

charchilaa ji Honestly speaking I am strictly against deletion of posts of anybody except for my own posts .

So I never find any body's posts offending or meaningless ....I do find them irritating sometimes ...but theek hai mujhe kyaa farak padtaa hai ...jisko jitnaa pataa hai voh utnaa hee likhegaa .

And I personally feel that all of us come here just for entertainment and not for edification and enlightments .

And everybody's definition of entertainment is different .Some like discussing Pakistan and politics others like me enjoy anything alse apart from these two things .

As people keep getting saturated they leave the site and new people keep coming ....so ismei itnaa pareshaan hone kee koi baat nahin hai ....

SlyBoots

June 4th, 2002, 03:01 PM

Charchilaa ji the problem that everyone over here has with me is that I have multiple id's .

Yaar mere samjh mei nahin aata kee kyaa farak padtaa hai if I have one id or 15o id's .

Their surely must be some reason for which I keep 150 id's .Out of which 33 I reveal and 117 I don't .

Their are certain things which I just cant say without being anonymous and everytime I create a new id , the reason is that I want privacy for expressing some of my hidden thoughts , which I just can't reveal if I am not anonymous .

If i create a females id then again their are 2 reasons behind it , and I just don't want to tell those reasons to anyone ?

MERI MARJI mai chaahe ek id rakhoon kee 150 id rakhoon ...ismein itnaa rone kee pareshaan hone kee kyaa baat hai :)

Object to the obscenities and not to my id's fake or real ....

Charchila

June 4th, 2002, 03:02 PM

Originally posted by SlyBoots
charchilaa ji Honestly speaking I am strictly against deletion of posts of anybody except for my own posts .

So I never find any body's posts offending or meaningless ....I do find them irritating sometimes ...but theek hai mujhe kyaa farak padtaa hai ...jisko jitnaa pataa hai voh utnaa hee likhegaa .

And I personally feel that all of us come here just for entertainment and not for edification and enlightments .

And everybody's definition of entertainment is different .Some like discussing Pakistan and politics others like me enjoy anything alse apart from these two things .

As people keep getting saturated they leave the site and new people keep coming ....so ismei itnaa pareshaan hone kee koi baat nahin hai ....

I was just trying to answer "Putting the zing back into eCharcha.Com." If deleting posts helps, I am for it.

Also, I wouldn't call discussing Pakistan and politics entertainment. Entertainment section is separate by itself - Films, Music, Sports and Literary. I don't come here only for entertainment. I come here because I learn a lot of new things here. I find "Current Issues" and "Politics" very informative... and this is like a portal for me where I can get all the news from various websites, some of which I didn't even know until I found them here.

And I am not pareshaan at all... like I said earlier, I was just trying to answer the question.

echarcha

June 4th, 2002, 04:28 PM

you read.

If you move the mouse over the stars image you will see how a thread has fared.

1 being worst

5 being best

bakchatter

June 4th, 2002, 10:19 PM

We have a list of the Most Popular threads in the previous 24 hrs. Lets have another list of the most popular thread in the last week which would be refreshed and reset at the beginning of every week. The metric of a thread's popularity in this case should be the number of posts and not the number of views because sometimes the title of the thread may be flashy / exciting enough to get someone to view it but the contents may not be anywhere near being exciting. A good thread does not only get people to view it but also incite them enough to put their thoughts in it also and keep the discussion flowing.

There is enough space on the left of the home-page for this list. I suggest putting the week's popular thread's list between the day's and the year's popular threads' lists.

Another opinion I have is that there really isnt a need to rate threads as the most popular thread in itself tells how well that thread has been recieved by the community.... a thread may get someone's 5 star rating in as less as 5-6 posts but then it might also just die before it reaches 2 figures in the number of posts.
just my 2 paise...

bakchatter

June 4th, 2002, 10:27 PM

Instead of rating a thread by stars we could have a feature like rating a post by number of stars. The echarchan who gets the highest rating for his / her post for a week would be the echarchan of the week and get the reward (someone suggested $500 from kharcha pai ;) )

But then some people post a lot and there are others who post regularly but dont post as much... so we could have a formula for getting the average rating that a person may have got for the week something like number of starts/number of posts or so on. There should also be a minimum number of posts (maybe 14 or 15) that should be done in a week by a person to qualify for this.

I dont know how much effort / system overhead would go into this sort of arrangement for rating each post. Of course rating a post would be optional.

khanbaba

June 5th, 2002, 02:33 AM

echarca, can u make it mandatory for each user to rate the thread without which he shouldnt be allowed to post reply...

just a suggestion ...

echarcha

June 5th, 2002, 10:44 AM

Originally posted by rakhwala
Discussion of religion cannot be avoided

I can suggest that you allow religion to continue but no using very bad words and roadside talking.

Hmm.. this coming from you is a welcome sign.. I know that religion cannot be totally ignored from discussions but the only restriction is that no one should use abusive and moronic language.

For khanbaba - Your suggestion is good..unfortunately that feature is not readily available in the software.. and I cannot really spend too much time hacking the current software. Thanks though!

GpeL

June 5th, 2002, 11:31 AM

Sach me pai.. all those houdinies that have vanished un ko ek email bhej kar invite them to join back.. echarcha has become a place of goodies goodies.. aaj kal interesting pange hote hi nahi :D :D.. gandesh.. frank alan, senorita vagairah ko vapis bulao..

SlyBoots

June 5th, 2002, 11:56 AM

What about calling CSCB , Anika and e-ladki back ?

nydood

June 5th, 2002, 11:59 AM

Originally posted by SlyBoots
What about calling CSCB , Anika and e-ladki back ?
Oh please..... spare us

SlyBoots

June 5th, 2002, 01:08 PM

Dood chintaa mut karo voh teeno already aa chuki hain ...farak sirf itnaa hai kee koi abki baar unko pehchaan nahin paaya hai :D

AdiDravida

June 5th, 2002, 02:05 PM

Stop being Anti-Dalits
and
Anti-Muslims

SlyBoots

June 5th, 2002, 02:35 PM

Kick such zanyelements like adidravid out of the site and the zing would immediately return .

subhash2002

June 5th, 2002, 02:35 PM

Originally posted by echarcha
but I wish I could award one or two eCharchans every month for starting some really good threads every couple of days!

to phir kab mil raha hai mujhey award????
:clap:

SlyBoots

June 5th, 2002, 02:46 PM

Tere thread dekh ke toh lag rahaa hai kee tujhe koi khaas kism kaa hee award milne vaala hai ....

contrarian

June 5th, 2002, 07:50 PM

Want to get people posting... cut down on the 'stalking responses'. Whenever someone says things that others don't like they jump on him / her and try to find out alternative nicks. *yawn* boring!

We all have split personalities .. specially some of the stalkers. Live with it and get back on the forum discussing / helping / chatting.

*who who who let the dogs out! who who who?*

kameena

June 5th, 2002, 09:57 PM

Rating a thread is a nice idea. Similarly the idea of posting the most popular threads of the past week/month is also a great idea. But I beg to differ on the criterion on which the most popular threads are chosen.

As I have noticed in the past few months the threads with most replies are the controversial topics which have degenerated into free for all mudslinging or the ones which are derailed unnecessarily. So if you have number of replies as criterion for choosing the popular threads it won't help in any way.

Also a request. Please try to curtail blatant derailment of discussion topics. Coming up with a really witty one-liner as a rejoinder to the discussion topic is one thing, but here I find posts which are a delibrate attempt at derailing the topic. Everyone is guilty of that here.

echarcha

June 6th, 2002, 09:54 AM

Originally posted by contrarian
Want to get people posting... cut down on the 'stalking responses'. Whenever someone says things that others don't like they jump on him / her and try to find out alternative nicks. *yawn* boring!

We all have split personalities .. specially some of the stalkers. Live with it and get back on the forum discussing / helping / chatting.

*who who who let the dogs out! who who who?*

I agree with this. Its a very good point.

Earlier when someone posted something that someone did not like, there used to be replies to refute that. Now we have instant derailment :down: and stupid responses to ultimately derail the thread. :down: Or else we have a new breed of replies - personal attacks on eCharchans or immediately on religion or faith of a eCharchan. :down:

Then if a thread is a bit serious, even then we have people replying in one-liners which they think are very funny :rolleyes: I had said it before too - humour to lighten the tension once in a while on a thread is welcome but making a point of replying in stupiud unrelated and seemingly funny wayys is so boring and .... :down:

Then when someone asks some questions in an otherwise heated thread, we have people using large font size to just yell. This does not propagate your point dumbos but makes everyone more wary and hateful of your cause and argument. :rolleyes:

I hope those who know that they do what I mention above will get this broad hint and change. Else, we will have a boring board and it will be everyone's loss - including yours!!

echarcha

June 6th, 2002, 09:56 AM

Originally posted by kameena
Rating a thread is a nice idea. Similarly the idea of posting the most popular threads of the past week/month is also a great idea. But I beg to differ on the criterion on which the most popular threads are chosen.

As I have noticed in the past few months the threads with most replies are the controversial topics which have degenerated into free for all mudslinging or the ones which are derailed unnecessarily. So if you have number of replies as criterion for choosing the popular threads it won't help in any way.

Also a request. Please try to curtail blatant derailment of discussion topics. Coming up with a really witty one-liner as a rejoinder to the discussion topic is one thing, but here I find posts which are a delibrate attempt at derailing the topic. Everyone is guilty of that here.

I have just written about the same things that you mention. Thank you for your hinest feedback.

echarcha

June 9th, 2002, 02:02 AM

double meaning responses?

I mean its nice to read the double meaning responses once in a while but many of us old members are resorting to it all the time.

Uff... you might think I am being too prudish and asking you to stop doinga lot of things... well I am asking you all base on my observations and feedback from some of you.

One other feedback I received was that when a new member starts some topic then old members who know each other very well, derail the thread and make references to each other while the new member is left wondering what really happened to the thread.

I thought that this was a valid point and so decided to share it with you. Wot say you?