BrahMos supersonic cruise missile

[vyomkeshsaxena]

4 days back we had the successful second test firing of world's first supersonic cruise missile...ithe product is the result of joint indo-russian defence industry. :up:

BrahMos means Brah- brahmaputra Mos- moscow

deatails of the missile

Parameter Specifications
Type of Targets - Individual / Group of Ships / Land based radio-contrast targets
Launch Platforms -
Land, Sea, Sub Sea, Air
Range - Up to 300 km
Velocity - Mach 2.5 to 2.8
Warhead - 200 - 300 kg
Flight Altitude - Sea Level to 15 km
Dimensions - 9000 mm (L), 700 mm (D)
Weight - 3900 kg

[vyomkeshsaxena]

ken someone here tell me what is the actual difference btween a surface-surface missile /sea-surface launched missile n a cruise missile ( no not a ballistic missile..there is a diff..prithvi is surface-surface n agni is a intermediate range ballistic missile)

[viking]

Rather than successful testing I'll be more interested in it's successful launching on Pakistan with full nuclear payload.:D

[kameena]

Originally posted by vyomkeshsaxena
ken someone here tell me what is the actual difference btween a surface-surface missile /sea-surface launched missile n a cruise missile ( no not a ballistic missile..there is a diff..prithvi is surface-surface n agni is a intermediate range ballistic missile)

This is what is my knowledge (I might be wrong though). A ballistic missile is where you fix the target and launch the missile, after it's launch there is no way the launching army can control the missile.
While a Cruise missile is a guided missile, in which all it's movements till it hits the target are either controlled by laser or satellites.

[vyomkeshsaxena]

Originally posted by kameena


This is what is my knowledge (I might be wrong though). A ballistic missile is where you fix the target and launch the missile, after it's launch there is no way the launching army can control the missile.
While a Cruise missile is a guided missile, in which all it's movements till it hits the target are either controlled by laser or satellites.

kameena pra..i wanted diff. between a surface -surface missile n cruise missile...:)

btw u said right that in a ballistic missile we fix the target n the missile takes off vertically ..takes a ballistic path...re-enter earths atmosphere.. n homes on designated target preferabely using Inertial navigation system..but longer range ballistic missile uses GPS n other stuff...even the path of these missiles is controlled by on-board comps. using feedback from satellites n contrary to what u said..we ken mid-manouver these satellites if they drift from their path...i mean not like cruise missiles wherein its just like a remote control plane..but mild path corrections r possible..our agni has that...

[Spartan]

Any one knows - Where India's Missile power stands compared to USA and other advanced countries? How does our Prithvi's , Agni's and all fare compared to the world?

[vyomkeshsaxena]

spartan pra..we cannot comapre ourselves to advanced counties like usa, russia n china bcoz they already have intercontinental ballistic missiles with multiple re-entry targetable vehicles...what we have now is agni..which is an internediate range ballistic missile which in its category is one of the most advanced missile in the world which can be launched from even mobile platforms..which moct ballistic missile cannot....also in surface-surface missile prithvi's target hit radius is simply the best in the world with a very low error margin....other missile that we have i.e nag..anti-tank missile..n one SAM (i dont rem'ber te name..may ne akash or somethin) r still in user-trial phase..so what we have now ready in our arsenal r prithvi n agni variants...also we have russian class klub cruise missile which r pretty good....rest to follow t'row...i mean air-launched n sea-based missiles...

btw anyone ken throw light whether we r acquiring arrow missile system from isreal ?

[Kya Bidu]

Originally posted by vyomkeshsaxena
ken someone here tell me what is the actual difference btween a surface-surface missile /sea-surface launched missile n a cruise missile ( no not a ballistic missile..there is a diff..prithvi is surface-surface n agni is a intermediate range ballistic missile)


Surface to Surface Missile (SSM): Launched from ground and designed to land on a ground target. Would include categories such as the Prithvi (SSM) / Agni (IRBM) / and ICBMs. A catch all term for surface launched missiles, though generally they are further sub-classified as per their range = IRBM / ICBM etc...

Sea Launched Missile: Similar design to SSM but launched from the sea, either from the surface from ships or from underwater by submarines. Usually known as SLBMs

Cruise Missiles: Launched from Sea / Air / Land. Designed to hit a particular target not using a balistic trajectory.

A ballistic missile simply put is designed to go up and down, with design enhancements to the warheads there is very limited amount of trajectory control. A cruise missile OTOH would be able to change course in mid-flight if it received a command to do so. Of course the seeker and guidance package would have to be designed for this, but it exists right now.

Simply put missiles can be broadly calssified as Ballistic - ie following an up and down path or cruise, following - ie 'cruising to their targets. All others designations are sub-categories of these classifications.

This is only meant for strategic and tactical missiles such as the Prithvi and Agni. A guided AT missile would never be classified as a ballistic or cruise missile, because it does not fall into either of these categories.

[GunsNRoses]

If I recall correctly, there's one more BIG difference between a cruise missile and a true ballistic missile that no one has pointed out yet. A cruise missile is not a rocket, whereas a ballistic missile is. What this means is that a cruise missile's engine is air breathing and hence needs to fly at lower altitudes. A rocket normally carries its own supply of oxygen along with its fuel.

Hence, a cruise missile is really a pilotless airplane with a jet engine. During World War II, the Germans invented the V1 and the V2 missiles. The V1 was actually the world's first cruise missile and it was powered by a pulsejet engine. The pulsejet made a buzzing noise when operating and hence the nickname "buzz-bomb". The V2 however was a true rocket and carried its own fuel and oxygen. Quite a few V1 missiles were successfully intercepted and shot down by RAF Spitfires and Hurricanes, if I recall correctly. Incidentally, I believe both types had an inertial guidance system in those days.

All modern missiles therefore have some connection to some the principles that were first pioneered by the Germans some 60 years ago.

[vyomkeshsaxena]

Originally posted by Kya Bidu

This is only meant for strategic and tactical missiles such as the Prithvi and Agni. A guided AT missile would never be classified as a ballistic or cruise missile, because it does not fall into either of these categories.

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[Kya Bidu]

GunsNRoses mentioned the most important fact differentiating a cruise missile from a ballistic one.

A cruise missile is air-breathing and a ballistic missile carries its own fuel and oxidant.