Question for Desis in the US - Guns

[smellyfinger]

Does anyone living in the US own a gun of any sort?? Handguns , rifles, shotguns etc ?? Do you know what the laws for gun ownership are for non citizens .. GC or H1 holders ?? Any issues with licensing ??

Please shed some light on this if you can. And please spare me the anti-gun tirades ..

[laal_langot]

smelly bhai what about a desi topda???ever seen one??you need to be as much of a pehalwaan as a sharpshooter to own one...or what about a 3 knot 3??waise I too would like to know if any of the people here have one...personal preference is a for a BAZOOKA....uske liye kaunsa licence chahiye hoga bhai logo??

By the way smelly bhai kya bolte ho mil ke warehouse kholein???personal collection ka...

Waise do guns to harr ek ke paas hotin hain...depending on the time of the day ammunition is supplied to one or the other

[perfect_storm]

eCharcha is giving warnings (for the bad guys here in eCharcha) and SmellyFinger is asking about GUN.....

Bhaiya bachke rahiyo.........Mamla Gambhir hai....:D :D :D

[smellyfinger]

Guys,

it is a serious question. I am thinking about buying a handgun for recreational use and I want to know of any potential pitfalls being a non-US citizen. Dont want to leave that decision in the hands of a gun dealer. Of course, he is going to say no problem, and he did. Just double checking, I guess.

Again, does anyone here own a gun or know of any Desi who does ??

[perfect_storm]

try to call on this number, (let's see if they can help you) - 911

[smartganduinuk]

For recreational purpose....

I suggest you better buy a dreamcast....in which case you also get to shoot guys for recreational purpose... n u will never get into ne trouble..

bhaaya main bolu hoon, aiso khel kis kaam ko jismein jaan ko khatro hove hain ?
aur thanne chahiye toh ya mirchi sheth, thane AK47 bhi dilwa sake hai... kai bolle..

[Laloo Prasad Yadav]

Bhai Smellyfinger, ek sawal mere man mai bar bar aata hai, kripiya jabab de.
Tumhari aamma ne tumhara naam asmeliFinger kahe rakkha. Ka tumhari ungli mai se badbu aata hai ??

[smellyfinger]

Like I said, spare me the anti-gun tirades. I know of all that. In fact I probably wont even bring it home. Leave it in a locker at the shooting club. Thats not the point.

Smarty, AK47s are illegal for civilian possessions. I am only looking for a legally purchased and licensed gun. As for Dreamcast, I already have one - actually Nintendo. Again, not the point.

Laloo Prasad ,
Hamaar naam to smellyfinger hai, par tum kaun ghadi mein paida huay, ki tohaar bapuaa ne naam ke jagah tohe gaalee hi de di.. Laloo Prasad Yadav..

[viking]

it is a serious question. I am thinking about buying a handgun for recreational use

Hey smellyfinger,hope your definition of recreation does not mean Hunting Animals.Man this kinda recreation really sucks big time.

[aryaputra]

smeelyji, everything else is fine, but could you please explain how do you use the gun to re-create ?

baat kuch hazam nahin huin.

[smellyfinger]

Viking,
No I am not into hunting. Its much easier to go to a grocery store. I was referring to target practice at a shooting gallery, where you shoot at paper targets. Its an olympic sport, dude.

Aryaputra,
Please refer this link ..

http://www.dictionary.com/cgi-bin/dict.pl?term=recreation

There are 2 meanings of recreation, one to re-create as you suggest, the other to play, or refresh ones mind, for which the root word is not create but a Latin word - recreatio. I think its obvious which one I was referring to.

[Laloo Prasad Yadav]

Originally posted by smellyfinger
Like I said, spare me the anti-gun tirades. I know of all that. In fact I probably wont even bring it home. Leave it in a locker at the shooting club. Thats not the point.

Smarty, AK47s are illegal for civilian possessions. I am only looking for a legally purchased and licensed gun. As for Dreamcast, I already have one - actually Nintendo. Again, not the point.

Laloo Prasad ,
Hamaar naam to smellyfinger hai, par tum kaun ghadi mein paida huay, ki tohaar bapuaa ne naam ke jagah tohe gaalee hi de di.. Laloo Prasad Yadav..


Arre hamre naam mai to ka gaali kaha nazar aa radi hai. laloo parsad yadav urf lalua , kitna to pyara naam hai.
BTW nice answer

[smartganduinuk]

oye smelly pahjee,
jab AK47 dilwa sakte hai...to phir to koi bhi model mil jayega aapko...

upon extensive searching....found some links which cud be of interesst to u...

http://www.guntruths.com/
http://www.shadeslanding.com/firearms/unabridged.2nd.html
http://www.shadeslanding.com/firearms/will.you.fight.html
http://www.guntruths.com/I_Support_Gun_Control.htm
http://www.guntruths.com/Resource/i_am_a_gunowner_and_i_am_ashamed.htm
http://www.guncite.com/
http://www.claremont.org/publications/second_amendment.cfm


By the way, if you want to practice shooting.... I dont think you need to buy one... You just have to join the 'shooting club' and there shud be no harm in that.

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[aryaputra]

smellyji - aap to ekdum serious jawaab de rahe ho.

anyway, good luck in your shooting adventure.

may you win a Gold medal for your country one day!!

[smellyfinger]

Thanks Smarty,

It is a lot cheaper to buy the gun than rent from a shooting gallery (I have asked). Guns are actually remarkably cheap starting at just about 200 bucks. Beats paying 20 bucks every time I rent. And they hold their value for resale, as long as you keep it in good condition. A lot of times, you get back more than you paid for it.


Actually, I was hoping to find someone here who has similar interests, and gun ownership. I am sure it is OK as there are a lot of Indian convenience store owners who keep guns (to protect themselves), so licensing should not be a problem. Just wanted confirmation from experience.

[smellyfinger]

Arya,

Kya karoon ?? High command (Sutradhar) se order jo aaya hai .. ;).

Jus' Kidding, echarcha. No dude, I was asking a serious question.

[echarcha]

Okay this is from what I have heard from a American ex-colleague at another project and from some TV COP shows.

If you own a hand-gun, then the police already have a record of it. They also perform background checks when you go to get a licence.

Okay, another thing is this. Suppose there is a sshooting incident in your area and the gun used was similar or same make as you have, then the police automatically send you a notice to contact them; so that they can verify that you did not shoot in that crime.

I mean there are lot of such procedures and problems that you might face if you get a gun.

Maybe you can RENT a gun for your activities. If you are just learning to shoot at a shooting range then I am sure they must be renting a gun.

This way you will have no problems about having a gun against your name in any records.

[smellyfinger]

Thanks echarcha, but I do think that buying the gun is financially more sound. I am not really learning, as I used to shoot in India as well. I just havent had the time to follow it up after coming to the US, and it is something I want to do now.

I am aware of most of what you said, just wanted to know of any problems specifically related to non-citizens owning guns. Right now I go shooting with a friend of mine and use his guns, but am probably going to wear out the welcome mat sooner or later.

[dhurandhar]

I like air pistols. you can modify them to be deadly.

[Big-G]

Smelly wrote :
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I am thinking about buying a handgun for recreational use ..
...I was referring to target practice at a shooting gallery, where you shoot at paper targets. "
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Yeah rite..and the 6x4x4 feet pit that you have dug up in your backyard is for storing potatoes during winters.

awwww come on Smelly, we are all pals here...so who is this guy who has been pissing you off ????

[smellyfinger]

Big-G,

Shh .. that pit is for my new swimming pool. More of a bathtub, actually.

[Big-G]

Ok...shhhh

But remember... "Eliminate the motive and establish an alibi".. rest is easy !!!

[kameena]

Actually this is my first post here. I too was interested in owning a gun, when all the truths about owning a gun ie the gun laws came as a real bombshell.

1. No non Immigrant can own a gun, that effectively rules out all the H-1B holders.
2. All automatic weapons are banned, so AK series are a big no no.
3. You need to buy some accesories for safe keeping of the gun in your house, like a gun rack with lock and stuff like that

overall a big pain for a software engineer, so I gave up the idea.

Ideas from E-charchans welcome

[smellyfinger]

Well, I was not looking for an AK 47 or any automatic gun. A semi automatic handgun suits me just fine. Yes, buying a gun safe is a great idea. Gun safes for handguns are relatively cheap - about 30 bucks.

[padhu]

Glock 17 :o

thats why i am scared of angu....kabhi aage aaya to uda dunga saale ko

[smellyfinger]

Tantric,

why does that worry you ?? Buying tasty meat is better than hunting bad tasting meat, no ??

Padhu,

www.glock.com/g17.htm

[padhu]

hey smelly

why the link.....i know the link for glock.....in fact i want the new Glock 21.

U know something, when i think of a glock, i think it would be to easy to smuggle a glock through bombay customs as this gun is not gonna come up on our antique x-ray machines. no wonder the underworld out there have better firearms than our pandus.

[smellyfinger]

Padhu, you are correct .. all plastic parts (with metal contacts). You take it apart, store the pieces separately, no one will know.

Glocks are sweet. The Glock 21 is a lot of firepower, though. Its a .45, if I am not mistaken. Big sound, big kick. I prefer the smaller calibers in glock. If you want a .45 , get the original... the 1911. Those are cool, especially since they are all metal. The 1911 compact is not even very heavy.