What was wrong with mohammad?

[gandesh]

This guy tells his followers that they can simultaneously marry 4 women... then to make it seem more human he says... well when u marry for the second time onwards try n see if u can marry a widow... otherwise of course u can marry anyone else (including 9 year old girls) ... i have a very simple question... muslims say that mohammad allowed multiple marriages so that widowed women could be helped... my question is why the fu*k didn't he tell his followers to try n create a fund for divorced women so that they can live gracefully... why didn't he tell them don't exploit these women n make sure that the state treats them equally (in jobs etc.) so that they can live their lives peacefully and bring up their children????... why did he tell them that if a women is divorced please help her but also don't forget to take advantage of her situation by fu*king her... what kind of a sick asshole was this guy... ???? n what kind of assholes are these people who don't question his shit teachings n blindly follow them... "if a women is widowed then fu*k her n give her food" do u really think that god goes for such simplistic and opportunistic solutions??? if u do then u must be crazy too just like that shitty taleban... :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:

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Wake Up! Mohammad (Shit Be Upon Him) was actually son of Satan!


[Edited by gandesh on 02-01-2001 at 08:18 PM]

[SimpleHuman]

Poor Sardar Ji!

Lagta Hia Phir Aik Naya Thread Shuru Kiya

THIK 12 BAJE!:D:D

Yaar Koi is Bara Baje Ka Kuch KAROOOOOOO!:D:D

[gandesh]

Poor Sardar Ji!

Lagta Hia Phir Aik Naya Thread Shuru Kiya

THIK 12 BAJE!


simple human ji post ke saath uska time of posting bhi likha hota hai... ek baar ues pe aankh mar lo... that thread was started by me on 02-01-2001 at 08:18 PM ... mere barah tau nahin bage hain par lagta hai ki tumhare andar ka child molester jaag utha hai... anyway try n answer my very valid questions... or accept that mohammad n koran are nothing but a pile of bullshit! :mad:

[SimpleHuman]

Sardar Ji,

Ab tu pura yakin hai Tukhari Gadi me zarro 12 baje honge:D:D:D:D

[gandesh]

so u admit that koran n mohammad were bullshit?

[viking]

Sardar ke ghadi mein 12 bajte hain aaj ke..mia ji aap dhyan rakho ki aapki ghadi kahi ulti na chalne lage towards medival times:D

[Randheer]

Look Gandesh and viking,how simple human is reacting now.
Now he is not calling Hindu Gods name or vowing to kill you,
or asking your adress from echarcha.
Now he has developed full confidence in his religion,
in his belief and in his prophet and believes that Blasphemy won't affect his belief.Now he has become more tolerant.
This what we want to be Indian Muslims like to be.
This will not weaken Islam but even will strengthen it

[Randheer]

Gandesh Bhai aapko to lagta Prophet Muhammad ke saath Ishq ho gaya aur woh bhi khudayi Ishq.
MasaAllah aapto Muhammad sahab ke peeche hi pad gaye,
Itna mat unhe yaad kijiye,unki Rooh ko sakoon se jeene dijiye,Waise hi unke some indisciplined Aurangzeb jaise followers ne unkee Rooh ko kitni takleef pahoonchayi hogi.

Lets not find fault with his character,lets not concentrate what wrong he preached,after he was a human being and quite prone to commiting some mistakes.
I am staunch and a strict hindu but some times i find it hard to justify some of the things our Gods or Avtar do in Human Form.
For Example: Ram killing Baali,while hiding behind a tree.
Ram killing Sambuk a shudra on insist of Vasishta
Every prophet or pagambar is a human being and prone to mistakes.

Lets not find fault with his character,lets not concentrate what wrong he preached,but what good he hs preached and how that can be utilized for Humanity

[gandesh]

thanks for replying randheer because ur reply has made it so much easier for me to make the point i wanted to make... i quote some lines from ur reply below:


I am staunch and a strict hindu but some times i find it hard to justify some of the things our Gods or Avtar do in Human Form.

For Example: Ram killing Baali,while hiding behind a tree.
Ram killing Sambuk a shudra on insist of Vasishta
Every prophet or pagambar is a human being and prone to mistakes.


if u don't realize this is exactly the difference between muslims and everyone else... anyone else is willing to reason about their religion and even reject the portions that don't make sense... just like u even though u are a hindu reject the portions u just mentioned... christians accept evolution and the modern concept of solar syatem even though both these go against bible... even sikhism has siks, khalsas and nirankaris who have different views... every religion can modify itself so that it remains humane... but islam doesn't allow this... the problem is that all muslims (including SimpleHuman, Star, Brhma, Aurangzeb) still believe that everything done by mohammad was right... he was right to fu*k a 9 year old girl when he himself was 56... he was right when he said male can simultaneously marry multiple times but a female can't... he was right when he said chop of arms of thieves and stone lovers to death... they are not willing to jettison such shit and make their beliefs modern... this is what makes islam a pre-historical barbaric religion and leads to things like jehad and islamic terrorism... this is the reason why its the duty of every human to make sure that this shitty belief system called islam is destroyed and removed from this planet.... :mad:

[SimpleHuman]

hmmm:D
Floks,

Sardar ji is progressing last reply was writeen at 12 bajke 1 minit :D:D:D:D

[gandesh]

hahahahahahahahahahaha... all u can talk is crap... i bet u r a paki sympathiser too.... :mad:

[SimpleHuman]

Oh Oh still no improvemnet!!! Keep it up Sardar Ji:D:D:D:D

Do you know that Mohammed was a robber - engaged in daylight robberies. Secondly, he married his own daughter-in-law kyonki uspar dil aa gaya tha.

[SimpleHuman]

Sardar Ji abhi aap Laondebazi par bhi utar aye!
Kamal hai. :D:D:D

[gandesh]

simple human aapka dimag hil gaya hai... doctor ke paas jaa ke check karwa lo... :D

[9231dane]

No matter what you say the fact is that Islam is one of the greatest religions and Mohammed(peace be upon him)was the last prophet the rest just reflects your upbringing and mentality!!!
CANT DENY A FACT!!!

[SimpleHuman]

Dear 9231,

Sardar Ji se panga mat lo! he has authority as he claimed ones to F**K muslims since 1947!!! trust me. He is great of the Sardars I ever met:D:D:D

I did not get any answer, my dear. If I was wrong, please do pin-point. The history tells all this. Did Mohammed marry his own daughter-in-law or not, as simple as that? Answer yes or no. Was he engaged in robberies or not? How many wives he had and of what age - starting right from 9 year old? Say, yes or no please.

[aryaputra]

There was nothing wrong with Muhammed.

How many people have been born in this world who can change the way the whole world thinks? and all that with only his will power?

Please stop abusing Muhammed, Jesus, or Krishna or any other Great personalities.

None of us here even have a fraction of that Charisma that these persons possesed.


Tell me.

1. How many peoples lives were you able to change..for the better?

2. How many people actually listen to you..and follow you?

3. How many people talk about you and your deeds?

Cut the crap about degrading these great people.

If anything, try to become a great person yourself by your own good deeds.

in fact

khudi ko kar bulund itna,
ki har takdir se pehle,
khuda bande se khud puche,
bata teri raza kya hai!

try to be in that category. Then the world will listen to you.

[gandesh]

hitler had charisma... he affected the lives of a whole generation of people... his religion i.e. nazism still lives on... do u think he too deserves our respect arya?

[viking]

Now thats what i call reasoning gandesh!!:D

[aryaputra]

Originally posted by gandesh
hitler had charisma... he affected the lives of a whole generation of people... his religion i.e. nazism still lives on... do u think he too deserves our respect arya?

Whose life did hitler change for the better?

He is the duryodhana in the modern world.

Even duryodhana had great powers...to put up such a great fight against Lord Krishna, of all people.

Does that mean Duryodhana is a great man?

[viking]

Hey Arya why the hell have you suddenly changed your tone man?!.Koi Muslim boss bun gaya kya?!

[aryaputra]

nahin yaar!

shayaad yeh dharti-kamp(earthquake) has got me thinking the better way, I guess.

[proudhindustani]

Arya Bhai,

Lets work our the different between (no offense please) these two (Hitler and Prophet Mohammad), I hope all the muslim brother will participate in this, These all the vision of a Hindu and I hope and request muslim brother comes with some logical answer.

Both of them having many followers (Nazi are reducing now)
Both of them try to forcefully make other believe there religion is best.
Both of them use barbarism to spread their religion.

I am not sure and not having any facts about womanizer Image of Hitler, except only one female :D:D

Waise arya bhai lagta he kuch jyada he jor ka jhatka lag gaya.

[gandesh]

and what proof u have arya that mohhamad was a good man? what's the proof that he wasn't the hitler (or duryodhna) of his time? hitler hated jews, so did mohammad (the wars he was fighting they were against jews... he was eventually poisoned by a jew)... hitler prescribed inhumane punishments (gas chambers) so did mohammad (kill someone by frying him in hot oil, stone to death, etc.) ... hitler did not allow people to believe in anything else but his ideas... so did mohammad (all those who don't believe in islam are kafirs, impose taxes on them, they will go to hell etc.) ... hitler was known for his taste in young and married women... so was mohammad (he married a 9 year old girl when he himself was 56 years old, he had more than 20 different women in his life) .... hitler prescribed that all other schools of thought except nazism were wrong and brunt libraries stocking such books... so did mohammad who preached that all other religions, all other prophets were wrong and he is the sole good prophet and his word is the final say on everything.... hitler wrote his teachings in his books called "Mein Kamph" (my struggle) and told all his followers to read it... so did mohammad who wrote his teachings in his book called koran and instructed all his followers to read it... hitler instructed his followers to wage war to destroy everyone who wasn't a nazi so that eventually this entire world believed in nazism... so did mohammad who instructed his followers to wage jihads and destroy anyone who they considered evil or who challanged islam till the entire world excepted islam (and they started out by killing jews under mohammad's command just like nazis under hitler's command)....

so what makes u think that mohammad wasn't the hitler of his times who has been glorified now as in prehistoric times dictators were treated as gods? i certainly question all the shit that he preached and all the shit that muslims do now... i think mohammad was the evil person of this time and islam is equivalent to nazism... the similarities between the two and the facts just shout this in the face of anyone who tries to question islam... that is why Rushdie who was a muslim himself had to conclude that some verses in koran were satanic... the fact is nazism today is equivalent to islam of yesteryears... and we have a duty to destroy this evil just like it was our duty to destroy nazism in 1944.... no matter how many millions of people are affected by that disease.... :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:

[Edited by gandesh on 02-08-2001 at 05:37 PM]

[SimpleHuman]

Mubarak ho current time 12 baj ke do 2 minit!
Sardar Ji Jaag gaye:D:D:D

[gandesh]

simplehuman re-read my post and reply with logic if u have guts or if u believe that ur shit religion is defensible... :mad:

[SimpleHuman]

Kamal hai Sardar Ji Logic aur Aaap!!! yeah baat kuch jami nahi:D:D:D:D

[aryaputra]

Gandesh,

on the same token, one can say many similiar things about Lord Krishna, or Lord Shiva for that matter.

One has to look at the context in which the message was given.

The main problem in Islam is that people in the middle east are basically barbarians in nature. ( NO-one can refute this fact). Now if Jesus and then Mohammed come to teach peace to these people, they spoke against what was the problem in that area, not somewhere else.

[ similiarity between Lord Krishna and Muhammed:
both of them told to fight against evil as per what existed in that time. you cannot carry that same into the future or past ..but the foolish muslims do that]

Hitler ordered to kill the jews. Why? did the jews inflict pain upon him? I don't think so.


If Muhammed told that he is the only one, so did Lord Krishna ( in different words ).

Guys, Muhammed has done more good than bad for the world.
It's the silly followers who are now giving Islam a bad name.

[9231dane]

There are no yes or No answers if there were this forum would not be here.
Futile discussions gain nobody anything.But i do apreciate the wisdom in aryaputra's breif but factual statement.

[aryaputra]

Dane,
thanks for appreciating my thoughts.

Even I believed that all these discussions are b/s.
but no discussions are futile.

After so many months of fighting and arguing, I beleive I am making some sense out of all this.

it's something what we Hindus call: Amrut-Manthan

[smellyfinger]

Good discussion. Finally some sanity.

Essentially there are no good or bad religions. There are only good and bad people. If a person is bad , he will try and find an excuse for his barbarism .. religion, caste, politics, wealth etc. What Mohammed or Hitler or Krishna were, is immaterial. They do not exist any more. What is relevant is the people still alive who claim to be followers.

Why do we care what another person believes in, or who he prays to ? Live and let live. Follow your beliefs, let the other person follow his.

Gandesh, what is the point of dragging Mohammed thru the mud ?? If someone believes that he was a truly great man, a prophet, let them. It is like someone talking bad about ones mother. Everyone respects and worships their mother. Even if she was bad (by someone else's definition), the son does not want to hear about it.

Sometimes, faith is more important than facts.

[viking]

What about those religions who have written procedures about torturing non believers etc?

[smellyfinger]

Again, if someone actually follows that, that person is bad. Else, all followers of that religion would be murderes and torturers. The good people would ignore that part. Remember, even the guidelines and rules of each religion are written by people.

What religion are you referring to, anyway ??

[viking]

Islam of course.This issue was discussed in this forum once before.Man you gotta read about it..it's sickening only a highly sick mind could churned something like that out.It's all in the koran!.

[gandesh]

and any muslim who ignores any section of koran is branded a kafir... remember what mohammad said... "koran is not a set of guidelines it is a set of rules that all believers must follow to the hilt"... no other religion preaches something like this except islam...

[aryaputra]

I think we are back to the same question:

by doing whatever these people/prophets/Gods did and preached, did they do more good for the people of their times or did they ruin the lives of many more?

My personal opinion is:
all of these people improved the lives of people in general in the region of their influence

so it's better that we do not bad mouth these people/prophets/Gods , but hold the crazy followers of going crazy and lock them up in a mental asylum!!

[denovo]

Was she on Viagra?
Could not been satisfied by four Gods.

Once upon a time Raja of Siri Lanka ( I think Jai Suria was his name) wanted a real bitch to **** & get sucked. Sent his army to look the bitcheist whore of the world, they looked all our the world and found SEETA sucking her four husbands, having her pussy pounded by Hanuman nad asking for more.

Raja's people couldnot believe this so they kidnaped her for their Raja's pleasure. Raja was more than happy to find such a whore but only one creature was missing SEETA, that ****ing monkey (HANUMAN) as husbands were happy to ditch the bitch. So our dear monkey took a flight to Siri Lanka to have his love back. What he did there to get her back is a long story, in short Raja wanted to ditch her as well, so sent her back home with Monkey.
So thats one of the Hindu God stories, will release more if the BAKWAS like this continued. SO dont **** with others faith to keep yours un-vailed

[aryaputra]

denovo,

why are you hiding yourself?
post this comments under your original ID.


Anyway,
to answer your questions:

are you taliking about your wife SEETA? (who has four husbands?)

if you don't know what you are blabbering about, please don't ruin the "FORUM" of this forum.

get some decent knowledge and come back.

good luck!!

[denovo]

Arya...
Thats how it hurts, what is this forum about? does anyone have more than blabbering to say about
others faith?

The person started this discussion sverely needed this treatment, does he know exactly about Islam or Muhammed?
He is just writing he thinks is right, so did I.

How many Muslims you know having 4 wives or doing Jehad or other things you people are relating to Muslims to prove them un-civilized?

Muhammed married more than one women because in that times Arabs used to burry their daughters alive as they couldnot find aproperiate men for them, so to discourage this practice it was alowed to marry more than one women.

Hindus have so many things to redicule but I dont want to discuss anything here, so please stop this discussion or get ready to have more stories about the things you want to forget about.

Cheers.....

[gandesh]

yea so to avoid burying them mohammad the bastard child molestor instructed that fu*king them is better.... u son of a bitch do u know that when u fu*k anothger woman all the religions of the world regard it as adultry and u are also disgracing ur present wife... why the fu*k did that son of a bitch not tell his followers to stop burying women and open a fund for their help????? take it man ur mohammad was a fu*king child molesting bastard pervert ... fu*k mohammad (shit be upon him) :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:

[SimpleHuman]

Sardar Ji Good Morning :D:D:D

[smellyfinger]

Here we go again.. Isnt this typical. Jhagda hua, thanda hua. Ek Pakistani aakar aag laga chala gaya. Ab maamla firse gadbad .. phirse jhagda shuru.

This is the way it goes, folks.

[viking]

Hey de no vo you want us to read this as 'they know what ' ..but we will like it better as De know nothin
Stuid uninformed idiot..go to the butchrs shop instead and buy some flesh so that your family can feed :D

[denovo]

GAND-DESH

why r u angry with HIM Did HE **** your mother sita's ass?
Why dont u people look at yourself, ****ing a women is better than burn her alive with his pattee....
and gand-desh shit is a holy thing for you people dont put it on some one u dont like, keep making your kitchens PAWITTER with you mom's (gao mata) shit.
What a Pawitter religion...by the way do you hindus eat ur mama's pawitter shit? u bad mouth mother ****ers...

[Randheer]

Denovo or whatsoever,
You will also accept thet cow's shit is more Pure
than Pig's shit which is filled in your Mind

Ha Ha Ha Ha.............

[denovo]

HA HA HA

now hindus are comming out of their mothers pussies....

you mother fu*cking chotias...now u can feel what u want to make other religion's people feel...

[Randheer]

Denovo bhai aapki mahan baaten humari samajh mein nahin aayin,Vaise bhi hum log Kafir log hain utni intelligence kahan hai,
Jara vistar se samjhane ka kasht karenge

[gandesh]

Originally posted by denovo
GAND-DESH


learn to spell u madarsa educated muslim bastard... its spelt as gandesh...


why r u angry with HIM Did HE **** your mother sita's ass?


no i'm angry with him cuz he was a child molester and a world class bastard... in all religions except islam child molesters are treated as assholes who should be locked up for the rest of their lives... but u are a fu*king muslim u won't understand such humane concepts...


Why dont u people look at yourself, ****ing a women is better than burn her alive with his pattee....


u son of a bitch what u are taking about has been illegal in India since 1800s... is fu*king multiple women illegal in islam? no.. why ? cuz they are bastard assholes who have no respect for women or children and see them as sex objects just like mohammad did...


and gand-desh shit is a holy thing for you people dont put it on some one u dont like, keep making your kitchens PAWITTER with you mom's (gao mata) shit.


do u know that all those every expensive "organic" products that people in US and UK are after use cow dung as a fertilizer???? don't talk crap n show ur class u muslim illetrate terrorist bastard.... fu*k off before i castrate the rest of ur puny litle penis u child fu*ker...


What a Pawitter religion...by the way do you hindus eat ur mama's pawitter shit? u bad mouth mother ****ers... [/B]

no we don't... but i'm sure ur mom fu*ked u when u were a kid cuz its taught in ur religion... ur fu*king religion teaches u to fu*k ur own children and sisters... oh by the way have u figured out which one of the ur father's four prostitutes (he calls them his wives) is ur real mother???? fu*k mohammad... (may pig dung mixed with ham be on that bastard child molester)... :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:

[Edited by gandesh on 02-14-2001 at 11:57 AM]

[viking]

Dear Denovo,

As you know there is always a famine in Pakistan there is one even now.

I cant do anything about it except can put up a board in the mens rest room which will say..

Piss hard Pakistan needs water

Respectfully Yours,

Viking

[denovo]

GAND-DESH

Han to gand-desh kay gandoo basio...ab gaand main aag lagee?

i think its like fu*king a donkey to explain you the things you are wrong about, u shit eating nation...you have shit filled heads...
CHILD MOLESTING? what a knoledge you have...
dont want to argue anything except making your asses burn..

so ..Sita kee gand main khotey (donkey) ka lun....
Tumharay Ram key to gand main tumharay apnay bhagwan Ganesh key sond (trunk).....

Waisay dramas main to Sita bahut sexy hay..asal main bhe aisee hay kia? Salo Sita say aik choopa lagwa do..dollar millay ga dollar...

[viking]

Dear Child Denovo,

Please dont get angry and abuse the way your parents taught you.Instead answer the question posed to you!.As you know Islam is a very modern and scientific religion isnt't it?.So Mohammad (S.A.W)must have had a very good scientific reason for eloping with a 9 year old child.It would be wprth your while for you to explain it to us.We will then not abuse you back.

Also there must be a scientific way you can feel horny after seeing a 9 year old girl...I cannot feel that way after seeing a child as young as that what is that way will you enlighten us.Please show us the way to Allah!.

Respectfully yours,

Viking


[Edited by viking on 02-14-2001 at 01:07 PM]

[denovo]

Said RAWAN....

I will shove your piece of shit GEETA
In the hot & wet pussy of bitch SEETA

[echarcha]

Please eCharchans,

Please hold your verbal horses. Using abusive language is not a sign of superiority or correctness of your views.

Lets be civil!

[aryaputra]

looks like mr. denovo is having a real good time over here.

possible 'cause he is free to express his opinions here on this forum....and since this freedom of speech is still a new concept to him, much like woh kaun khet ki chidiyan hain? , he is unable to control his speech by himself. Only time will bring him back to his senses.

Till then, just ignore him.

[chirag2000]

EVERTTHING WRONG WITH HIM

[Sane Less]

Good discussion. Finally some sanity.

Essentially there are no good or bad religions. There are only good and bad people. If a person is bad , he will try and find an excuse for his barbarism .. religion, caste, politics, wealth etc. What Mohammed or Hitler or Krishna were, is immaterial. They do not exist any more. What is relevant is the people still alive who claim to be followers.

...
Sometimes, faith is more important than facts.

Puraana thread, I know... but ek bottle wine ke baad naya purana sab ek... no difference:D

I disagree with this view of my dear friend, Smelfillyginger pai. People are always good... or marginally good (those weak-minded people)... or pschotically bad. Note, psychos are exceptions... normal people are good by default. It is good or bad religions that twist people... basically brainwash people. We need to be on the lookout for bad religions (and you can distinguish them by the definitions of a cult... usually cults are bad and narrow-minded, usually beneficial to the cult-starter and no one else). And cults that have become religions have done so because, and here I agree with Smellginger pai, there are people who find it an easy way to gain power. Not bad people... but power corrupts... and you know what absolute power does:D