Synthetic Milk Technology!

[rationalthinker]

http://www.thehindu.com/life-and-style/society/article3431926.ece?homepage=true

...........This is how synthetic milk is made: Vegetable refined oil is taken in a wide mouthed container along with a suitable emulsifier and thoroughly mixed till it becomes a thick white paste. Water is slowly added to the paste until the density of the liquid is similar to that of milk. Then is added urea or sodium sulphate or glucose or maltose or sometimes any one of the commonly available fertilizers after dissolving in hot water. The refined oil in synthetic milk acts as a source of fat whereas the hot solution of any one of the substances above mentioned acts as a source of solids not fat (SNF). The ingredients that go in to the making of synthetic milk are calculated in such a way that the fat and SNF percentage is similar to mixed milk. Hence it easily passes the tests carried out at the village level dairy co-operative society (fat and lactometer reading etc.).

This is the difference between real and synthetic milk. The colour of both is white. But on storage real milk remains white, synthetic milk or adulterated milk turns pale yellow. If rubbed on the palm, synthetic milk becomes foamy. Real milk does not. Real milk does not change colour on heating. Synthetic milk turns yellow on boiling. The pH value of real milk is 6.6 – 6.8 and of synthetic milk 10-11 (extremely alkaline). The fat content is the same in both: 4.5 – 5 per cent, the SNF (Solid Not Fat) is also the same 8-9 per cent. ..........



Quite a lot of farmers/cooperatives etc.. hold workshops to teach this technology for earnest entrepreneurs.
But, I think, this milk is legal (at least not illegal----they don't 'catch' you) only in India!

[soniya 2]

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[Dead On Arrival]

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[soniya 2]

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[Sane Less]

Is this synthetic milk dispensed from silicone containers:confused:

[rationalthinker]

More than 70% of milk sold today is adulterated.
"Synthetic milk" has everything but 'milk' in it-------and unsuspecting parents 'force-feed' their kids with this milk.
This has been one of the most comprehensive articles on this evil.
Those in India should definitely read it!

[chaiwaala]

If I had to guess ... I would think that there would be a difference between urban and rural areas. Milk adulteration might happen more in small rural pockets of India where they can get away with it easily. Just a guess.

[Dead On Arrival]

If I had to guess ... I would think that there would be a difference between urban and rural areas. Milk adulteration might happen more in small rural pockets of India where they can get away with it easily. Just a guess.

Actually.. I think it's the opposite! People in rural areas know more about milk and it's characteristics than we do..plus demand does not really exceed supply.. my presumption. It's the urban guys who don't really bother.. I think Delhi has this huggeeee issue of unadulterated milk.. Increased demand leads to such means..

Just a guess.

[kkkk]

The last sentence in the article is really stark -

If I were a business person, I would start marketing home chemical kits for milk testing: Chemicals, lactometer, test tubes, droppers, gas burner, measuring cylinders, beakers and bottles. If I were a school chemistry teacher, I would make my students bring milk from home and test once a week. As a householder I would — and have — simply ban milk from the house.


Is nothing fair in India? is EVERYTHING fucked up?

[chaiwaala]

Actually.. I think it's the opposite! People in rural areas know more about milk and it's characteristics than we do..plus demand does not really exceed supply.. my presumption. It's the urban guys who don't really bother.. I think Delhi has this huggeeee issue of unadulterated milk.. Increased demand leads to such means..

Just a guess.

Yes, you are right. Rural folks know more about milk and they source it from right there.

But what about small towns where there's no agriculture or livestock-raising? These people have to buy from the surrounding villages, right?

The standard brands ... I doubt they would deliberately adulterate milk. For example, here we got Aavin, a huge co-operative. Similarly for other big brands like Amul and Mother's Diary. But if you buy outside of the standard brands, I dunno.

Some small contamination of milk is inevitable in India ... because ground water and animal feed that is fed to cows are a bit more contaminated compared to Western standards.

BTW, did you notice Maneka Gandhi's solution in the original article? She banned milk from her household! May be she is lactose-intolerant? :D

[kkkk]

Yes, you are right. Rural folks know more about milk and they source it from right there.

But what about small towns where there's no agriculture or livestock-raising? These people have to buy from the surrounding villages, right?

The standard brands ... I doubt they would deliberately adulterate milk. For example, here we got Aavin, a huge co-operative. Similarly for other big brands like Amul and Mother's Diary. But if you buy outside of the standard brands, I dunno.

Some small contamination of milk is inevitable in India ... because ground water and animal feed that is fed to cows are a bit more contaminated compared to Western standards.

BTW, did you notice Maneka Gandhi's solution in the original article? She banned milk from her household! May be she is lactose-intolerant? :D


she says 70 - 100% of milk is adulterated. That implies even the brands are not to be trusted.

[chaiwaala]

she says 70 - 100% of milk is adulterated. That implies even the brands are not to be trusted.

Right ... Maneka Gandhi says that in that article.

Dunno what to make of it. Will need to do some research.

I find it hard to believe a brand like Amul (to give one example) would deliberately adulterate.

[swami]

Amul wont adulterate its the local distributors who do it
Right ... Maneka Gandhi says that in that article.

Dunno what to make of it. Will need to do some research.

I find it hard to believe a brand like Amul (to give one example) would deliberately adulterate.

[rationalthinker]

Years ago we had this Andhraite Krishna delivering Aarey milk to us. Eventually I noticed that, even for 'cows' milk, it was rather thin. I realized that he was part of a well organized racket, run mainly by 'Annas' (Andhraites!) in which they carefully snipped about 1/2 cm. of the pouch at lower edge (Aarey upside-down), and replaced, maybe 35-50% of milk with good-old water!
The dead give-away was that while the 'Govt. sealing' of the pouch was serrated (rough), that 1/2 cm. heat-seal was smooth!
I approached the local police-station with a few of those bags----but the police chief inspector there praised my 'observation powers' and promised to send a couple of havaldars to 'nab' him.
Co-incidentally, Krishna simply stopped delivering milk within a week----in our entire scty.!:mad:

[chaiwaala]

Amul wont adulterate its the local distributors who do it

Years ago we had this Andhraite Krishna delivering Aarey milk to us. Eventually I noticed that, even for 'cows' milk, it was rather thin. I realized that he was part of a well organized racket, run mainly by 'Annas' (Andhraites!) in which they carefully snipped about 1/2 cm. of the pouch at lower edge (Aarey upside-down), and replaced, maybe 35-50% of milk with good-old water!
The dead give-away was that while the 'Govt. sealing' of the pouch was serrated (rough), that 1/2 cm. heat-seal was smooth!
I approached the local police-station with a few of those bags----but the police chief inspector there praised my 'observation powers' and promised to send a couple of havaldars to 'nab' him.
Co-incidentally, Krishna simply stopped delivering milk within a week----in our entire scty.!:mad:

Sure, there always are a few people like this ... but what is the percentage of such people? That would be interesting to know.

If I had to guess, I'd say most milk vendors in cities don't do this kinda thing. May be I'm wrong, but that's been my experience. I never bought milk that I found later to be adulterated.

Maneka Gandhi says otherwise in that news item; I'll have to find another source to corroborate her numbers. May be one of these days ...

[swami]

The bad people are hardly 10-15% but these percentage create havoc in life of the remaining population,by cheating,adulteration,murder,terrorism,extortion,rape and politics :D etc
The remaining population deserves all this because each one thinks who cares lets avoid and move on,even if the 10 percent decide we dont want these antisocial elements then we see them only in history books or fairy tales
Sure, there always are a few people like this ... but what is the percentage of such people? That would be interesting to know.

If I had to guess, I'd say most milk vendors in cities don't do this kinda thing. May be I'm wrong, but that's been my experience. I never bought milk that I found later to be adulterated.

Maneka Gandhi says otherwise in that news item; I'll have to find another source to corroborate her numbers. May be one of these days ...

[kkkk]

Sure, there always are a few people like this ... but what is the percentage of such people? That would be interesting to know.

If I had to guess, I'd say most milk vendors in cities don't do this kinda thing. May be I'm wrong, but that's been my experience. I never bought milk that I found later to be adulterated.

Maneka Gandhi says otherwise in that news item; I'll have to find another source to corroborate her numbers. May be one of these days ...

did you actually check for adulteration?

[Dead On Arrival]

did you actually check for adulteration?

Thats what I was thinking! Do people actually check for adulteration?? Or is it just a general presumption that the one I get wont be unadulterated coz it looks thick and is as white as it can get?! :dontknow::confused:

[kkkk]

Thats what I was thinking! Do people actually check for adulteration?? Or is it just a general presumption that the one I get wont be unadulterated coz it looks thick and is as white as it can get?! :dontknow::confused:

I havent actually checked for milk adulteration before now.

[rahulpsharma]

The pH value of real milk is 6.6 – 6.8 and of synthetic milk 10-11 (extremely alkaline).

That's what the article in Hindu says.... Now if this is such a clear cut demarcation then why have they written such a long article about Fat content and all... And multiple tests for Urea etc....

Why not simply conduct a pH test... And isolate adultrated from Real... Simple... A crude pH tester would not cost more than 10 Rupees even...!! And with this difference in the pH range, the results would be UNAMBIGUOUS....!!

[kkkk]

The pH value of real milk is 6.6 – 6.8 and of synthetic milk 10-11 (extremely alkaline).

That's what the article in Hindu says.... Now if this is such a clear cut demarcation then why have they written such a long article about Fat content and all... And multiple tests for Urea etc....

Why not simply conduct a pH test... And isolate adultrated from Real... Simple... A crude pH tester would not cost more than 10 Rupees even...!! And with this difference in the pH range, the results would be UNAMBIGUOUS....!!

not all real milk has that pH value for instance goat milk is more alkaline and can have higher pH values. so demarcation may not be so clear cut. plus the contamination agents will also dictate the composition of the milk. Adding just water to milk, though bad, may not make it as harmful as some of the other contaminants described.
I do agree that for home use, no point in going through such elaborate tests, a litmus test will atleast give an indication about whether more tests are necessary.

[Dead On Arrival]

not all real milk has that pH value for instance goat milk is more alkaline and can have higher pH values. so demarcation may not be so clear cut. plus the contamination agents will also dictate the composition of the milk. Adding just water to milk, though bad, may not make it as harmful as some of the other contaminants described.
I do agree that for home use, no point in going through such elaborate tests, a litmus test will atleast give an indication about whether more tests are necessary.

Just when I comprehend a thread.. u guys start talking in greek! :doh:

[chaiwaala]

did you actually check for adulteration?

Nope, never done any milk adulteration tests myself.

So, yeah, what I say is based on half-knowledge. More like 0.01% knowledge actually.