Racists--Are you one of them?

[Rakhi]

This morning when I was taking my train, there was this Chinese lady who pushed me so hard that I almost fell...all because she wanted to get in before me. I stepped aside and said, "you seem to be in a hurry...the train isnt moving until the doors are close. nevertheless you may go in before me"...

Then there was this guy who was beside me just said to me, "most Chinese are like this". I was taken aback. Isnt that a racist comment to make? Then again i wondered, if we call someone a racist, would it make me racist?

what are you thoughts?
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[ashdoc]

i have a problem with muslims ( not all--some of them are pro-india ) regarding their loyality to india , and their religious fanaticism .

from wherever i can make out blacks are the inferior race--incapable of progress , prone to criminality , closest as humans can be to animals/gorillas/chimpanzees.

[zyzzva]

what are you thoughts?

Bahaar say kuch hain , andar say kuch aur hain and echarcha pay mauka dekh kar chaukka maarne waali ho jaayengii.

Ree choRi mhaari naa boojhay .

( Aray LaRki humhaari naa Poocho )

Hum toh Haathi kay daant sae , khaanN kay ore aur dikhaanN kay aur.

( Hum toh haathi kay daant hain , khaanay kay aur and dikhanay kay aur )

[zyzzva]

i have a problem with muslims ( not all--some of them are pro-india ) regarding their loyality to india , and their religious fanaticism .

Ray Jhatkay yoh , Religious/Marathi fanaticism jingoism et al type khoobiaan toh teraY andar bhee koot koot kay bhar rakhi sae , humhay toh naa hai teresay koi probelam

from wherever i can make out blacks are the inferior race--incapable of progress , prone to criminality , closest as humans can be to animals/gorillas/chimpanzees.

So what are you closest to ?

Closet ? eh !

[sarv_shaktimaan]

How can you be certain she was chinese? May be napalese / jap / korean ? U not racist since u not even sure of the race.. :D

[ashdoc]

Religious/Marathi fanaticism jingoism

what religous fanaticism ??-- i am a total uncompromising atheist.

and i am no raj thackeray supporter -- i dont have anything against north indians coming to mumbai .

i just return back the fire if anybody abuses maharashtrians .

[Rakhi]

i have a problem with muslims ( not all--some of them are pro-india ) regarding their loyality to india , and their religious fanaticism .

from wherever i can make out blacks are the inferior race--incapable of progress , prone to criminality , closest as humans can be to animals/gorillas/chimpanzees.

I have a problem with them too. But then we have problem with at least one person from one community isnt it? Does it make us a ...shall we say, a wholesale-racist?

How can you be certain she was chinese? May be napalese / jap / korean ? U not racist since u not even sure of the race.. :D

She was Chinese already:D.

[jeetiaf]

This morning when I was taking my train, there was this Chinese lady who pushed me so hard that I almost fell...all because she wanted to get in before me. I stepped aside and said, "you seem to be in a hurry...the train isnt moving until the doors are close. nevertheless you may go in before me"...

Then there was this guy who was beside me just said to me, "most Chinese are like this". I was taken aback. Isnt that a racist comment to make? Then again i wondered, if we call someone a racist, would it make me racist?

what are you thoughts?

i dont think it is racist, he might be referring to bad cultural practice of chinese, china is more overpopulated than india, so it is possible that it might have became a cultural norm there, not sure though
race has become such a sensitive issue that slight remark hinting to some cultural practice is also taken as racist remark:doh:

jeetIAF

[sunnykode]

I was thinking about starting the thread on the same topic.
Here are my thoughts.
I think desis, knowingly or unknowingly are racists. Think about it, how often do we generalize and often refer to Americans as goras, chinkus for chinese people and so on.
I am not sure if this qualifies as racism, not an violent act for sure, but still?

[Rakhi]

i dont think it is racist, he might be referring to bad cultural practice of chinese, china is more overpopulated than india, so it is possible that it might have became a cultural norm there, not sure though
race has become such a sensitive issue that slight remark hinting to some cultural practice is also taken as racist remark:doh:

jeetIAF

referring to a common cultural practice is also racism..is it not?

I was thinking about starting the thread on the same topic.
Here are my thoughts.
I think desis, knowingly or unknowingly are racists. Think about it, how often do we generalize and often refer to Americans as goras, chinkus for chinese people and so on.
I am not sure if this qualifies as racism, not an violent act for sure, but still?

well, we take the cake in being racists if referring to a white as a gora can be a racist comment :D

[Arbaaz Balushi]

Pushing or being pushed is nothing new to indians, whether its boarding the first flight out of india or at the first few years at work.

Indians are bloody racist and comes with lot of baggage; and they can act well too.

Btw, darmender got phalke award; and why it isn't on echarcha breaking news?

[amritvani]

i dont think it is racist, he might be referring to bad cultural practice of chinese, china is more overpopulated than india, so it is possible that it might have became a cultural norm there, not sure though
race has become such a sensitive issue that slight remark hinting to some cultural practice is also taken as racist remark:doh:

jeetIAF

In this context this is absolutely racist no doubt.
There is truth in cultural norm for other countries, you could search you tube for Japan people pushers, who basically stuff people in the local trains as a job. However in an isolated incident when you attach a race to an individual's behavior that is clearly racist.

[amritvani]

I was thinking about starting the thread on the same topic.
Here are my thoughts.
I think desis, knowingly or unknowingly are racists. Think about it, how often do we generalize and often refer to Americans as goras, chinkus for chinese people and so on.
I am not sure if this qualifies as racism, not an violent act for sure, but still?

Referring to communities by alternate names isn't racism as we have bhaiyyas and ghatis and so forth within India as well. Attributing a person's willful behavior to the race would be racism. Racism is quite prevalent everywhere.

[swami]

Btw, darmender got phalke award; and why it isn't on echarcha breaking news?

Who stopped you from posting it ?

[Arbaaz Balushi]

Who stopped you from posting it ?

Not who, but what.

All that rules of font size, color and formatting.

[swami]

Not who, but what.

All that rules of font size, color and formatting.

Arrey baba you post it in the breaking news just take care that it looks good on the front page,agar nahi to mods and admin will tweak it for you,go ahead and post it.

[Arbaaz Balushi]

Arrey baba you post it in the breaking news just take care that it looks good on the front page,agar nahi to mods and admin will tweak it for you,go ahead and post it.

Yaar, apna artistic quotient is zero. I can admire/praise/criticise/trash but cannot create one.

[swami]

Yaar, apna artistic quotient is zero. I can admire/praise/criticise/trash but cannot create one.
Why dont you try atleast once,you dont have to be an artist to post in breaking news section :D
Come on boss you can do it.
Sorry Rakhi ;)

[Premi]

Yaar, apna artistic quotient is zero. I can admire/praise/criticise/trash but cannot create one.


ghanta ...chaar crowns sajaa ke rakhe hain aur ab bola ki thread create karna nahi aata which looks good. :dontknow:

[AmthaLal]

from wherever i can make out blacks are the inferior race--incapable of progress , prone to criminality , closest as humans can be to animals/gorillas/chimpanzees.



Oh really!:smartass:

How much personally you know about black people? Have ever interacted with ANY black person?:rolleyes:

[dhurandhar]

i have a problem with muslims ( not all--some of them are pro-india ) regarding their loyality to india , and their religious fanaticism .

from wherever i can make out blacks are the inferior race--incapable of progress , prone to criminality , closest as humans can be to animals/gorillas/chimpanzees.

whoa...how did you deduce that?:D

[Premi]

Oh really!:smartass:

How much personally you know about black people? Have ever interacted with ANY black person?:rolleyes:


ask the chi-town guy about blacks..... :rotfl:

[Sane Less]

This morning when I was taking my train, there was this Chinese lady who pushed me so hard that I almost fell...all because she wanted to get in before me. I stepped aside and said, "you seem to be in a hurry...the train isnt moving until the doors are close. nevertheless you may go in before me"...

Then there was this guy who was beside me just said to me, "most Chinese are like this". I was taken aback. Isnt that a racist comment to make? Then again i wondered, if we call someone a racist, would it make me racist?

what are you thoughts?

Racism is just part of human nature. If you are a racist then you are but a human. It is political correctness that is inhuman... absolutely. Point out one person who is not a racist... and I will show you a person who is masking his racism:D

i have a problem with muslims ( not all--some of them are pro-india ) regarding their loyality to india , and their religious fanaticism .

Ab muslims ne tera kya bigaada jo tujhe un se problem hai:confused:... and why bring this topic here:dontknow: We are talking about racism... not your personal hatred. Please keep that limited to relevant threads and don't splatter your shit everywhere:D

from wherever i can make out blacks are the inferior race--incapable of progress , prone to criminality , closest as humans can be to animals/gorillas/chimpanzees.

Scientists say that humans originated from Africa. If you feel blacks are inferior in all aspects then all you are saying is that our future is bleak. We probably are at our peak now and will slowly devolve... and become incapable of progress, prone to criminality... and will become more like animals/gorillas/chimps. Africans are only already there:D

[Premi]

Ab muslims ne tera kya bigaada jo tujhe un se problem hai:confused:... and why bring this topic here:dontknow: We are talking about racism... not your personal hatred. Please keep that limited to relevant threads and don't splatter your shit everywhere:D



arrrey gaanv waalon .... ye saney toh madrasi ke saath saath katalla bhi nikla...

:rotfl::rotfl::rotfl::rotfl:

[Arbaaz Balushi]

Why dont you try atleast once,you dont have to be an artist to post in breaking news section :D
Come on boss you can do it.
Sorry Rakhi ;)

No, I cannot. Please don't push me or I will say all swamis are like this. :D

[Arbaaz Balushi]

ghanta ...chaar crowns sajaa ke rakhe hain aur ab bola ki thread create karna nahi aata which looks good. :dontknow:

Chaar mein say ek bhi breaking news ka nahi hai. Sab soap box/opera ke liye hai. :doh:

[Arbaaz Balushi]

why majority here feel so emotionally attached to blacks?

[Sane Less]

arrrey gaanv waalon .... ye saney toh madrasi ke saath saath katalla bhi nikla...

:rotfl::rotfl::rotfl::rotfl:

Samajhne waalon ko coffee ishaara hai:D

why majority here feel so emotionally attached to blacks?

Saarey ke saarey madrasi jo baite hai:D

[swami]

why majority here feel so emotionally attached to blacks?
The ones who are supporting blacks are mostly from USA whereas people from India have a bad image about them.Here in India they are mostly into drugs,stealing,cheating,beating riskhaw/taxi drivers,pain for the policemen etc.So you would get to hear negative things about them from Indians in India.

[sunnykode]

whoa...how did you deduce that?:D
and what does that make Obama:D and USA (a country run by Obama)as a matter of fact.

[echarcha]

Having lived here for so long, I have come to realise that deep down every race is racist. Basically every person, when pushed to their level of tolerance, has racist thoughts and harbors racist sentiment.

Its very very natural for people, whether in USA or in India. In India too, its quite common to hear comments like 'Saala madrasi' or 'saala bhaiyya' to refer in a derogatory tone to South and North Indians respectively. Though the race of both parties here is the same 'Indian', there are these feelings based on the difference in culture and origin.

Every person at some level has these thoughts. So its not racist to think about why people of a certain culture have certain attributes about them.

Now what is being a non racist? Well, when you control your urges to openly express your feelings based on an one off incident or a collection of incidents and dont judge the person purely based on the collective stereo-type associated with that person's race, then you can say you are not a racist.

At work, if you are impartial to everyone irrespective of their race, ethnicity, background and origin, then you are not a racist.

[krantikari]

I probably am.

I also think all are anyways. Some are only careful not to express. Some express with such subtility that the victim ends up grinning and sometimes he/she never comprehends for a long time. We all wise up over years and become more sensitive and sensible.... just to be precise - there are exceptions.

[JaiSpeaks]

Oh really!:smartass:

How much personally you know about black people? Have ever interacted with ANY black person?:rolleyes:

Fucking... :mad: most desis are racists when it comes to blacks :mad: . Is it just the color of the skin that makes them averse?
Just the other day I went to Buffalo Wild Wings and this smart ass is commenting that "god so many of these kind here" . Fucker , first we are in their country and we have a problem intermingling with them .

Blacks are as good as whites , actually even more so . Atleast they are not politcally correct like them whites . Many whites apparently practice racial ignorance . You are deliberately kept out of most of their activities . But still our desi folks want to kiss their white asses :D.

[ashdoc]

Oh really!:smartass:

How much personally you know about black people? Have ever interacted with ANY black person?:rolleyes:

whoa...how did you deduce that?:D

come on --the whole of africa is such a super-hell because it is inhabited by the blacks . do you think that it would have been such a hell-hole if it was inhabited by whites ??

[Sane Less]

come on --the whole of africa is such a super-hell because it is inhabited by the blacks . do you think that it would have been such a hell-hole if it was inhabited by whites ??
If the hell-hole was inhabited by whites... they would have become black by now:D

[shruthi_ks]

Pushing or being pushed is nothing new to indians, whether its boarding the first flight out of india or at the first few years at work.

Indians are bloody racist and comes with lot of baggage; and they can act well too.

Btw, darmender got phalke award; and why it isn't on echarcha breaking news?
Why can't you post more of such interesting things???????

[Arbaaz Balushi]

i have a problem with muslims ( not all--some of them are pro-india ) regarding their loyality to india , and their religious fanaticism .



I concur. If I also read those ‘1000 years of muslim onslaught on hindu’ fiction on daily basis, I too will have problem.

I have a problem with them too. .

But, what problem you have? I mean, ek madrasan ko musalmaan say kya problem ho sakta hai, unless you dreamt last night you are reincarnation of some rajput women who committed jauhar when her rajput husband lost war to mughal-e-azam. :D

[swami]

Jab musalmaano ko hi musalmaano se problem hota hi to baki logo ki kya baat kare :smartass:
I concur. If I also read those ‘1000 years of muslim onslaught on hindu’ fiction on daily basis, I too will have problem.



But, what problem you have? I mean, ek madrasan ko musalmaan say kya problem ho sakta hai, unless you dreamt last night you are reincarnation of some rajput women who committed jauhar when her rajput husband lost war to mughal-e-azam. :D

[JaiSpeaks]

It might also be that everyone is jealous of the others accomplishments .
Whites have been behind many of the advances maybe medicine , science , etc . Now they are getting sidelined since Asians are making a mark , so obviously they are having feelings of jealousy , and being racist is being part of that cycle .

Blacks are still under lower economic strata , hence whites target blacks to feel superior :D . Ego is what is driving this racial hatred ..

[Sane Less]

I concur. If I also read those ‘1000 years of muslim onslaught on hindu’ fiction on daily basis, I too will have problem.

...


So, it looks like you are agreeing that what happened the last 1000 years, fiction or truth, it was very bad. Only difference is, you feel it is fiction and many others, including many historians, believe it to be the truth:D

....
But, what problem you have? I mean, ek madrasan ko musalmaan say kya problem ho sakta hai, unless you dreamt last night you are reincarnation of some rajput women who committed jauhar when her rajput husband lost war to mughal-e-azam. :D

Any sane person will have a problem with the religion... and I am sure that you agree with me that Rakjihi tai is indeed a sane person:D

[chaiwaala]

It might also be that everyone is jealous of the others accomplishments .
Whites have been behind many of the advances maybe medicine , science , etc . Now they are getting sidelined since Asians are making a mark , so obviously they are having feelings of jealousy , and being racist is being part of that cycle .

Blacks are still under lower economic strata , hence whites target blacks to feel superior :D . Ego is what is driving this racial hatred ..

I have seen some figures showing how, in recent years, the number of patents from South Korea and China has been increasing quickly. Now, if the number of patents from India were also to increase substantially year by year, the combined output from Japan, China, South Korea and India would add heft to the "Asian re-emergence" theory. I think the number of patents filed is a good indicator of technological innovation.

[Arbaaz Balushi]

So, it looks like you are agreeing that what happened the last 1000 years, fiction or truth, it was very bad. Only difference is, you feel it is fiction and many others, including many historians, believe it to be the truth:D

Its real bad if its truth. Doctor saab in another confirmed hindu are coward and effiminate. Coward and effimaite could withstand 1000 years of onslaught only in fiction. :D

Any sane person will have a problem with the religion... and I am sure that you agree with me that Rakjihi tai is indeed a sane person:D

Sanity is a prespective. Here, its just her zeal to assimilate with muslim-hating crowd, unless, as I said, she had a dream.

[PeaceSeeker]

Sanity is a prespective. Here, its just her zeal to assimilate with muslim-hating crowd, unless, as I said, she had a dream.
listen boss, no one hates anyone here or anywhere. if some individual or group follows certain set of rules/customs/etc, no one from outside would give a damn unless n until the outsiders begin to feel that their space is being taken trampled upon bcoz of the individual or group or their rules/customs etc. Now whatever the theory be, practically it has been seen plenty number of times that faithfuls have the tendency of not just trampling upon the space but rather taking over. the only thing which can change the impression is change in that tendency which is unlikely to change. dont have lopsided impressions.

[Arbaaz Balushi]

listen boss, no one hates anyone here or anywhere. if some individual or group follows certain set of rules/customs/etc, no one from outside would give a damn unless n until the outsiders begin to feel that their space is being taken trampled upon bcoz of the individual or group or their rules/customs etc. Now whatever the theory be, practically it has been seen plenty number of times that faithfuls have the tendency of not just trampling upon the space but rather taking over. the only thing which can change the impression is change in that tendency which is unlikely to change. dont have lopsided impressions.

Your theory and practical are contradictory, not that it matters, just mentioned it.

[PeaceSeeker]

Your theory and practical are contradictory, not that it matters, just mentioned it.
theory and practical r never in sync. i m not talking about my or ur theory. i m talking about any perfectly well written theory and practical implementation of that.

[Arbaaz Balushi]

theory and practical r never in sync. i m not talking about my or ur theory. i m talking about any perfectly well written theory and practical implementation of that.

So it takes us back to 'the zeal to assimilate'; and thats what I said in the first place.

[PeaceSeeker]

So it takes us back to 'the zeal to assimilate'; and thats what I said in the first place.
no one has assimilated against anyone. most r as assimilated as you yourself r..

[Rakhi]

But, what problem you have? I mean, ek madrasan ko musalmaan say kya problem ho sakta hai, unless you dreamt last night you are reincarnation of some rajput women who committed jauhar when her rajput husband lost war to mughal-e-azam. :D

Perhaps the same problem which you seem to have with a "madrasan" which you so proudly seem to mention.

And you are right about the dream. How did you read into my dreams? You seem to have a special gift. Good for you.

[Rakhi]

Sanity is a prespective. Here, its just her zeal to assimilate with muslim-hating crowd, unless, as I said, she had a dream.

When i opened this thread, I did not have any "zeal" to prove and neither did i had only Muslims in my mind. If you want to think that I am trying to assimilate with muslim-hating-crowd, you are free to think so.

And and FYI, perhaps you haven't noticed, I dont shy away from opening any specific thread, even to do with Muslims (yes, I have done so in the past).