80% in South India Cant Do Simple Subtractions!

[badriprasad]

No comment so as to not hurt feelings of Indianbhai and Rakhiji and Dollyji and Hyderabadibhai and Coolbhau. No wonder most of them cannot get work and most of us have problem communicating with them in writingly and orally.



Tamil Nadu ranks lowest in reading skills: Pratham report
TNN, Feb 2, 2011, 05.42pm IST

CHENNAI: Children in the state are going to school, but not many of them seem to be learning, says ASER 2010, prepared by NGO Pratham. The report says almost all children in the 6 to 14 age group in the state go to school, but ranks Tamil Nadu lowest in the number of children who have the required reading skills.

The Tamil Nadu figures show that less than 50% of children in Class III to V in the districts can read a simple paragraph in the Class I level text-book in their mother tongue. The arithmetics skills of children in the state too are abysmally low, as nearly 80% of children in Class III cannot perform simple subtraction. Children in the age group are expected to be able to perform not only multiplication and division but also solve problems involving fractions.

"A large number of children in Tamil Nadu have a very bleak future ahead unless drastic measures are taken to urgently improve learning levels. The government, educators, NGOs, political parties, parents and the community must work together to improve the learning quality of our children," say child rights activists who participated in the survey.


Link for more fair and accurate news ... (http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/chennai/Tamil-Nadu-ranks-lowest-in-reading-skills-Pratham-report/articleshow/7412189.cms)

[MadrasiBabu]

Not surprising! I am also from Tamilnadu but fortunately studied in the Kendriya Vidyalayas and thereafter outside the state due to the dravidian politics of reservation. Tamilians are so used to reservations that they know they can become an engineer or doctor with no skills whatsoever. Go to the government hospitals in TN and see the quality of the doctors! Also a recent study of engineeering students from TN came up with a shocking revelation that almost 65% of them failed their basic high school mathematics test. And all these students had more than 90% marks in Maths in their state board exams!!
It is a shame and a paradox since this state also has the distinction of producing 3 nobel laureates! The Dravidian politics is to blame for this.

[rationalthinker]

As long as they can 'add' (say, upto 1,70,00,00,00,000.), I guess its WOKHAY!:D

[raniraja]

As long as they can 'add' (say, upto 1,70,00,00,00,000.), I guess its WOKHAY!:Dand that's without math skills !!... Just imagine the number of zeroes there had he been a math wizard :D :D

[jeetiaf]

Now this shows the real literacy level of the state, the one which might have had above 80% level in census 2001. Actually India’s literacy rate is nowhere near 65%, it might be around 30 % or so, teachers are burdened with surplus responsibilities like population count, polio, election duties, and this is clear result of mismanagement of primary education at grass root level.:rolleyes:

jeetIAF

[chitrala]

and that's without math skills !!... Just imagine the number of zeroes there had he been a math wizard :D :D
Look at the brighter side...30% can do subtractions. :D

[krantikari]

Or maybe ... a very possible thing... only TN may have conducted a truly honest survey?

[tantric_yogi]

This is not so bad ... TN and parts of our south have some happy families and children enjoying just being children. More power to parents who give children a chance to have fun.

Rat race for 'best performing' kids ... children as young as 4 return home to spend hours to study 'some more' is immoral and amoral. You are creating a generation to whom success and money is all that matters in life. Imagine an entire generation of unhappy morally depraved ...

:up: Kudos to parents in our Southern parts of India ... there is more to life than higher grades.

[Rakhi]

This is not so bad ... TN and parts of our south have some happy families and children enjoying just being children. More power to parents who give children a chance to have fun.

Rat race for 'best performing' kids ... children as young as 4 return home to spend hours to study 'some more' is immoral and amoral. You are creating a generation to whom success and money is all that matters in life. Imagine an entire generation of unhappy morally depraved ...

:up: Kudos to parents in our Southern parts of India ... there is more to life than higher grades.

I was about to say something similar but held back. 80% cant do simple math? Thats weird...

[sarv_shaktimaan]

and I thought Tamilians were super proud of themselves.. that they have everything in their state itself not needing anything from rest of India.. these are not my words.. but a Tamilian colleague who told me how all of his tribe feel & think.

[Rakhi]

and I thought Tamilians were super proud of themselves.. that they have everything in their state itself not needing anything from rest of India.. these are not my words.. but a Tamilian colleague who told me how all of his tribe feel & think.

He is an idiot then. Any one who feel that they can survive by themselves are headed towards doom.

[krantikari]

He is an idiot then. Any one who feel that they can survive by themselves are headed towards doom.

Self sufficiency is good. However like Rakhi pointed out there is tremendous interdependence these days. Ask them to throw away all their items that contains even one part manufactured outside of Tamil Nadu... They won't have cloths to wear soon. Even the cloths they manufacture are milled from machines procured abroad. All their computers, watches... what are they talking about... like I said they are super fanatics. Like I mentioned in a previous thread somewhere, before God said 'let there be light', he said, 'let the be Tamil'.

I wasn't puzzled one bit when I heard one desi lady talking to these goras... she got a bit uncomfortable when I came in to get a glass of water from the water cooler. She was telling the goras that she was from Bangalore and they were asking her things about Bangalore, and she hesitantly told them that most people in Karnataka spoke Tamil and they were ok speaking other languages too like Kannada and she gave a glance towards me to see my expression I think.

My ass I thought. Do you have to be such a fanatic? What would you say if Bappi Lahiri says to someone that most people in Maharastra spoke Bangali?

[Parijataka]

ASER 2010 report (http://images2.asercentre.org/aserreports/ASER_2010_Report.pdf)

Sorry to see Karnataka also in the bottom for some skill sets along with TN... pg 70 of the document gives summarised info in tabular form. Punjab, Haryana, Maharashtra, Himachal do well. Gujarat is so-so. West Bengal is there with the laggards UP-Bihar-Rajasthan, all southern states other than Kerala lag in some area or other. So North zone and West zone winners here...!

Talking of reservations, Karnataka at 73% has the highest percentage of reservation ahead of TN at 69%. In the days of Janata Party when some Brahmins are supposed to have to complained to then CM Ramakrishna Hegde, a Brahmin himself, about reservations he is said to have told them `you people have the biggest reservation of all - general merit!`.

[Rakhi]

My ass I thought. Do you have to be such a fanatic? What would you say if Bappi Lahiri says to someone that most people in Maharastra spoke Bangali?

Yeah. What I don't understand is this thirst to prove that they are the greatest. I am talking in general here, not just Tamils alone. I have known people who think that sarees coming from Kancheevaram (near Madras) are THE BEST and rest are good for nothing. These are the people who have no idea what is out there. There is a saying right, turtle living in a well thinks its the king or something like that.

To be proud of your birth place is one thing and thinking that you are the king/queen is another.

[sahil_khanna57]

I agree with Tantri yogi. Its true, in urban cities children have no leisure time. Getting into a habbit is a different thing. I am not saying that children should not learn but they must also be included in other activities too.

[raniraja]

Math skills among the kids are generally poor across our country. I am surprised about the passage reading bit. Will need to look deeper to see what kind of samples they had and the sample size.

sahil_khanna57, welcome to Echarcha. Looking forward to your posts. Tell us more about yourself and your interests. Also, since we have been around for more than a decade now, we have a lot of good material here and hopefully you will go through them too.

As we warn the newcomers, log off your emotions when you log in here :D
:up:

[Sane Less]

Saala ye madrasis kabhi sudrengey nahi. Now they are proudly dindora peeting... 80% this and 70% that:mad:

[dhurandhar]

and all those reports by Thomas Friedman about how world is flat and students in US should somehow get scared of India and China:D

I am sure China has similar woes:D

[vip11]

Shocked to read that 80 % of Tamils cannot do simple subtraction. RAB RAKHA (god will save).

[viking]

and I thought Tamilians were super proud of themselves.. that they have everything in their state itself not needing anything from rest of India.. these are not my words.. but a Tamilian colleague who told me how all of his tribe feel & think.

Their role models are non-Tamilians..some examples.


J. Jayalalithaa
Rajnikantha
T.N Sheshan
Khushboo


Quite frankly most of them are only good at dirty politics. This is a fact. The most parochial of all Indians (if they even consider themselves so).

[LifeBuoy]

i thought -

South's excel in math and suck at business n administration.
North's excel in businaees, administratioon while suck at math.

[BABU_HYDERABADI]

Now this shows the real literacy level of the state, the one which might have had above 80% level in census 2001. Actually India’s literacy rate is nowhere near 65%, it might be around 30 % or so, teachers are burdened with surplus responsibilities like population count, polio, election duties, and this is clear result of mismanagement of primary education at grass root level.:rolleyes:

jeetIAF

unlike chandra babu who took personal care in making sure that chools produce excellent grades(he made headmasters stand on benches in CM Principals meetings and this decreased the schools that had zero percent pass in 10th) Similar things have to be taken into consideration like skills assessment tests at the end of 3rd grade for every student(with no effect of that score on the promotion of that kid to the next grade, but should effect the variable pay for the teachers of that school).
With the number of holidays that teachers have compared to a normal salaried govt personnel, 10 days of them spending in field helping in election duties, census and polio drive are not gona hurt them.

[BABU_HYDERABADI]

ASER 2010 report (http://images2.asercentre.org/aserreports/ASER_2010_Report.pdf)

Sorry to see Karnataka also in the bottom for some skill sets along with TN... pg 70 of the document gives summarised info in tabular form. Punjab, Haryana, Maharashtra, Himachal do well. Gujarat is so-so. West Bengal is there with the laggards UP-Bihar-Rajasthan, all southern states other than Kerala lag in some area or other. So North zone and West zone winners here...!

Talking of reservations, Karnataka at 73% has the highest percentage of reservation ahead of TN at 69%. In the days of Janata Party when some Brahmins are supposed to have to complained to then CM Ramakrishna Hegde, a Brahmin himself, about reservations he is said to have told them `you people have the biggest reservation of all - general merit!`.

looks like south states did not report falsified data.