The Gandhian Penis

[viking]

Inspired by N.D. Tiwari and his Gandhian escapades discussed here ..
http://www.echarcha.com/forum/showthread.php?t=33891

I would like to ask all echarchans this..

The father of our great peace loving and secular nation was a weak and fragile man. He was deprived to the bone. But apparently he was too strong down there. So strong that he wanted to dampen the dynamo under his loin cloth by experimenting with Brahmacharya. Many young women and young girls proudly had proclaimed to have slept naked with him. Many a time they would sleep as a threesome. Infact it is documented that he got (un?)lucky with as many as four women.

Many of us would like our sons to follow Gandhiji's life and ape what he did, many of us would like our daughers to read and maybe act like Gandhi's women. In fact many of us, when we enter old age, would like to be like Gandhiji ourselves!

Gandhi could achieve not just having naked young women sleeping with him but also earn the goodwill of young a attractive women even today. Many young women even today say that he did a lot for the 'upliftment' :D of women folk.This, whilst being weak, old, ugly and having no clothes on him to make any fashion statement whatsoever.

Lets call this the Gandhian Penis Syndrome

My question to Gandhi loving echarchans is:

What is it that a man must essentially possess to have a Gandhian Penis.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/50/Gandhi_at_Darwen_with_women.jpg

[echarcha]

Ha ha ha ha ha ... There was a movie with Shabana Azmi, Nandita Das and Kulbushan Kharbanda. Kulbushan somehow becomes a devout follower of some Guru babaji types and one of his 'tests' is to try to resist his wife. So he sleeps next to Shabana who wants it but he does not give in.

So I guess you have to be totally enamoured by some babaji to have a Gandhian penis! :D

Well, I think the movie was Fire or something...

[ashdoc]

Many of us would like our sons to follow Gandhiji's life and ape what he did, many of us would like our daughets to read and maybe act like Gandhi's women.

vikingji , yeah some of us would like to ape gandhiji ,and some would like our sons to do so too.........

but daughters ........:eek:

why would anybody like his daughter to sleep completely naked with an eccentric old coot who would use her as a tool to test his penile strength and in his old age would like to devour her young and tender flesh and enjoy the flower of her youth by putting his aching ,paralysed, horrible ,dirty ,stinking ' third limb ' near the ever-inviting gap between her lovely legs.........and then proclaim that he was merely testing his ' willpower ' by taking in beautiful and sexually attractive young, nubile ,delicate, never -before-touched -by- a -man -in -full-flow-of-desire, virgin girls who look good enough to eat into his lecherous arms and his polluted ,defiled bed........polluted by his sleeping with numerous virgins he used to enjoy sleeping with in order to assuage his ego and test his horrible libido and his uncontrollable passions which used to inflame in the middle of the night ,and on the strangest of occasions ( he was enjoying the flesh of his youthful wife when his father lay dying -something that forever repelled him from his wife and made him seek to test his control over his lust with younger and more delicious, full bodied women with flower-like, sensitive ,vulnerable ,virginal bodies ......and take the ' heat ' of their bodies on chilly nights by pressing his chest against their bodies).........why indeed ....??? :dontknow::dontknow:

[Randheer]

You need to be a pure Congressi to have a Gandhian Penis. Please read "The Insider" by PV Narasimha Rao where he clearly describes what Gandhian penis is and how womens are to be treated as physical itch :)

He clearly told that Congress Women Committe's meetings start with discussing lofty ideals and end up with discussing who is sleeping with whom :D

[ashdoc]

In fact many of us, when we enter old age, would like to be like Gandhiji ourselves!



Thoda control karo ashdoc!! We can discuss and vent all our feelings for Gandhi-ji and his 'double' standards, but lets use a little less strong language.-sutradhar

[sprite]

to devour her young and tender flesh and enjoy the flower of her youth

' near the ever-inviting gap between her lovely legs........

by taking in beautiful and sexually attractive young, nubile ,delicate virgin girls who look good enough

lust with younger and more delicious, full bodied women ).........why indeed ....???

I am confused whether to take your post as some serious argument or a porno-writing :confused:....seriously :D

[echarcha]

I have edited ashdoc's comment. ashdoc no need to go over the top and digress from the topic.

[ashdoc]

'' and so gandhi had achieved , he believed , perfect control over his senses while sleeping with manu. sometimes they used to sleep tightly in each others arms when the night was chilly under the blanket, and yet felt nothing.
but one day there was a disaster !! ' IT' WAS UP !!''..........:rolleyes::clap::D:whacky:

- from FREEDOM AT MIDNIGHT by LARRY COLLINS and DOMINIQUE LAPIERRE

[ashdoc]

friends and echarchans , gandhi used to sleep naked with his 19 year old grandniece manu to test his control.:o

in today's day and age , this is a sexual offence.:D

my question is ,should gandhi have been booked as a sexual offender ?? :smartass:

can we have a poll on this ??

[ashdoc]

various links-

http://www.class.uidaho.edu/ngier/gandtan.htm

http://www.straightdope.com/columns/read/2521/did-mahatma-gandhi-sleep-with-virgins

http://qna.indiatimes.com/index.php?ref=permalinkquestion&question_id=50893

[aflatoon]

GANDHI is a fuckin GANDU... Made 99% Indians HIJDAS.

[Anonymous]

I think there is medical name for a condition where an individual does things not for self-satisfaction but to prove something to the world at large. This condition is common amongst oriental politicians.

Though not sure, I think MKG needed treatment for this condition rather than a heavy title like 'Rashtrpita' or 'apostle of non-violence'. He was trying to prove lot of things which somewhere inside he himself did not approve of. Thats my 'inside' feeling:)

Conclusion- in order to have a Gandhian Penis, one needs to have that medical condition without seeking/having treatment:D.

[dhurandhar]

I think there is medical name for a condition where an individual does things not for self-satisfaction but to prove something to the world at large. This condition is common amongst oriental politicians.

Though not sure, I think MKG needed treatment for this condition rather than a heavy title like 'Rashtrpita' or 'apostle of non-violence'. He was trying to prove lot of things which somewhere inside he himself did not approve of. Thats my 'inside' feeling:)

Conclusion- in order to have a Gandhian Penis, one needs to have that medical condition without seeking/having treatment:D.

Not necessarily oriental politicians....all people who crave some kinda record have this trait...this includes people from all professions. In other words, it is "one-upmanship" where you try to show that you are better/smarter/efficient/creative/etc compared to your contemporary competitors. Some people are able to hide this trait under the cloak of self-satisfaction, whereas some are brash about it:D

[viking]

I think there is medical name for a condition where an individual does things not for self-satisfaction but to prove something to the world at large. This condition is common amongst oriental politicians.

Though not sure, I think MKG needed treatment for this condition rather than a heavy title like 'Rashtrpita' or 'apostle of non-violence'. He was trying to prove lot of things which somewhere inside he himself did not approve of. Thats my 'inside' feeling:)

Conclusion- in order to have a Gandhian Penis, one needs to have that medical condition without seeking/having treatment:D.

I think it is the capability of some people to do whatever they want to do even if it does not have any morality and then use their capability to convince all around them that what they did was divine.

I think we should have preserved Gandhii's penis for our generations to see, just like the Russians have preserved Rasputins and the French have Napoleons.:rolleyes:

[raniraja]

I think there is medical name for a condition where an individual does things not for self-satisfaction but to prove something to the world at large. Not a medical condition, a general disorder called "Showing off".

[Anonymous]

Not a medical condition, a general disorder called "Showing off".
Actually, i knew the name.

Its like this- when you do things to please others, you do different things at different times because 'others' is pluralistic; when you do things to please yourself, you do only one thing since self is singularistic. the condition is actually a multiple personality disorder which as-on-date is a medical condition which is curable to very large extent.almost all politicians suffer from this medical condition and become successful only if they do not seek treatment. so this disorder is actually an eligibility criterion for a successful politician which MKG was. however he was not an evil person like today's leaders.

[chitrala]

GANDHI is a fuckin GANDU... Made 99% Indians HIJDAS.

Yeah Right!! Blame someone else for your butterballs.

[Anonymous]

I have edited ashdoc's comment. ashdoc no need to go over the top and digress from the topic.

sutradharji, doc bhai ka semi-porno post is sometimes visible and sometimes not. strange behavior. or may be u r doing some action behind the scenes right now? if not, this may be a bug with the deployed app.

[echarcha]

Na baba, I deleted the post but if someone has already used it in a quote, then its visible.

[sprite]

friends and echarchans , gandhi used to sleep naked with his 19 year old grandniece manu to test his control.:o

in today's day and age , this is a sexual offence.:D


Under which section of IPC?

what is the crime?

:rolleyes:

[Rakhi]

Viking, I just want to ask you a few simple questions. Do you seriously believe that Gandhi had nothing to do with Indian Independence movement?

Do you believe that if I Google search and start pasting the articles written about Gandhi in good light, just like you do with you copy/paste articles, I will not be able to counter you?

One last question, if you really believe that Gandhi is good for nothing and had been just a liability to our nation, what exactly are you doing about re-writing history books? Did you submit a proposal to the education boards in India about "Gandhian penis" and why he should not be called Father of the Nation?

Of course a poll is a simpler option now, isn't it?

[Randheer]

Rakhi Ji, Viking Bhai raises very pertinent topics. Gandhi was the Father of great Congressi Hypocracy which has been hurting India for last 50 years.

He was deeply religious as all Congressi Leaders are,some times even more religious than BJP ones but will mix a "Ishwar, Allah Tero Naam,sabko sanmati de bhagwaan..", thus giving them a chance to play with Muslims.

A true Brahamchari doesn't tests his celebacy by sleeping Naked with Womens and having "Creative Porn" kind of Pleasure :). Have you ever heard Baba Ramdev or Narendra Modi doing this.

[Rakhi]

Rakhi Ji, Viking Bhai raises very pertinent topics. Gandhi was the Father of great Congressi Hypocracy which has been hurting India for last 50 years.

He was deeply religious as all Congressi Leaders are,some times even more religious than BJP ones but will mix a "Ishwar, Allah Tero Naam,sabko sanmati de bhagwaan..", thus giving them a chance to play with Muslims.

A true Brahamchari doesn't tests his celebacy by sleeping Naked with Womens and having "Creative Porn" kind of Pleasure :). Have you ever heard Baba Ramdev or Narendra Modi doing this.

Randheer...what is the point in keep on talking about someone who is dead for many years now? If you/Viking believe that Gandhi was good for nothing, then maybe its about time to do something about it.

By talking about Gandhi and his penis what exactly are you achieving? Nothing!

[chitrala]

Rakhi Ji, Viking Bhai raises very pertinent topics. Gandhi was the Father of great Congressi Hypocracy which has been hurting India for last 50 years.

He was deeply religious as all Congressi Leaders are,some times even more religious than BJP ones but will mix a "Ishwar, Allah Tero Naam,sabko sanmati de bhagwaan..", thus giving them a chance to play with Muslims.

A true Brahamchari doesn't tests his celebacy by sleeping Naked with Womens and having "Creative Porn" kind of Pleasure :). Have you ever heard Baba Ramdev or Narendra Modi doing this.


Don't know about baba RD but Modi is not a brahmchari... he was married(p'haps still, not sure if he's divorced)... he doesnt wish to talk about it so people don't know much about it. Again it's his personal choice and it doesn't make him a better or worse politician.

Same with Gandhi, his personal experiments and irrational religious beliefs should be restricted to his personal domain. If he did not force it upon his followers, I don't think it should make a difference. Hitler was a vegetarian. does that make him a better person?

[viking]

Don't know about baba RD but Modi is not a brahmchari... he was married(p'haps still, not sure if he's divorced)... he doesnt wish to talk about it so people don't know much about it. Again it's his personal choice and it doesn't make him a better or worse politician.

Same with Gandhi, his personal experiments and irrational religious beliefs should be restricted to his personal domain. If he did not force it upon his followers, I don't think it should make a difference. Hitler was a vegetarian. does that make him a better person?

So to make Gandhi look good, you criticize Narendra Modi by raising questions about his marital status is it? Pathetic.

[viking]

Randheer...what is the point in keep on talking about someone who is dead for many years now? If you/Viking believe that Gandhi was good for nothing, then maybe its about time to do something about it.

By talking about Gandhi and his penis what exactly are you achieving? Nothing!

That is exactly what I'm doing. I'm trying to educate brain washed people about the reality of Gandhi.

[Rakhi]

That is exactly what I'm doing. I'm trying to educate brain washed people about the reality of Gandhi.

What reality Viking? that he is a sex pervert and he had nothing to do what so ever with the Independence Movement? Next what....are you going to condemn his soul (because he is not alive)?

[viking]

What reality Viking? that he is a sex pervert and he had nothing to do what so ever with the Independence Movement? Next what....are you going to condemn his soul (because he is not alive)?

Simple question. Do you think the British would be still ruling India had he not been there?

How many colonies does England still have?

[sarv_shaktimaan]

What reality Viking?
have you heard about ignore lists on ec...:smartass: reading some vella's (punjabi for idle brain & jobless) diarrhea can be avoided... lemme know if you want help setting it up. :D

[viking]

lemme know if you want help getting it up. :D
:eek:

So now you are going to be other ec peoples ward boy is it?

[Rakhi]

Simple question. Do you think the British would be still ruling India had he not been there?

How many colonies does England still have?

No, they wouldn't have been here even without Gandhi. But in those days we did not have military capabilities to get into war with British Viking. Even if you had attempted, there would have been 50 times more bloodshed. Would you have rather preferred this?

[chitrala]

So to make Gandhi look good, you criticize Narendra Modi by raising questions about his marital status is it? Pathetic.

:rotfl::rotfl::rotfl::rotfl::rotfl:

I don't want to answer you as I know you'd never get it but just for the record it wasn't I who brought Modi into discussion.:D

[viking]

No, they wouldn't have been here even without Gandhi. But in those days we did not have military capabilities to get into war with British Viking. Even if you had attempted, there would have been 50 times more bloodshed. Would you have rather preferred this?

Well Gandhi did more harm to India than good. He just earned himself a title 'father of the nation' fr doing that harm. That is what I dont like.

[Rakhi]

Well Gandhi did more harm to India than good. He just earned himself a title 'father of the nation' fr doing that harm. That is what I dont like.

Thank you for agreeing. Wah Viking....I didnt think you would give in so soon :)

[sarv_shaktimaan]

Even if you had attempted, there would have been 50 times more bloodshed. Would you have rather preferred this?that might have been better for national pride... few southies would have shed some blood instead of falling for the easy way out... CONVERSION. :whacky:

[Rakhi]

that might have been better for national pride... few southies would have shed some blood instead of falling for the easy way out... CONVERSION. :whacky:

North Indians or South Indians...everyone belong to the same nation called India. And their life is as precious as yours.

[sarv_shaktimaan]

North Indians or South Indians...everyone belong to the same nation called India. And their life is as precious as yours.
lemme ask you if you've heard of Shaheed Udham Singh... most southies havent... I dont blame you... y'all belong to Canada and US before India. :D

i'm outta here... dont wanna start a ruckus here. bbye 2009 the most fu(ked up year ever.

[Rakhi]

lemme ask you if you've heard of Shaheed Udham Singh... most southies havent... I dont blame you... y'all belong to Canada and US before India. :D

i'm outta here... dont wanna start a ruckus here. bbye 2009 the most fu(ked up year ever.
Sorry to hear that 2009 hasnt been good for you. Hopefully 2010 will.

Yes, I have read my history books. I do know Ram Mohammed Singh Azad.

[badriprasad]

You guys are discussing like it was a fukcing rocket-science. Haven't you ever tried to woo women (or men)? Old man needed an excuse and, he invented one.....

[badriprasad]

You guys are discussing like it was a fukcing rocket-science. Haven't you ever tried to woo women (or men)? Old man needed an excuse and, he invented one.....

But I am having a great difficulty imagining adequately imorality of the scene.... repeated night after night.

Knowing what is transpiring inside the room where he allegedly slept naked with two or three women less than quarter of his own age.... his wife slept on a khatiya in the next room.... hundreds of floor-mats slept outside in the open. And this was happening 60 years ago. So this is where Indian morality is coming from? Sodom and Gomorrah!

[Sane Less]

...

Lets call this the Gandhian Penis Syndrome

...

Gandhian Penis Syndrome... GPS. Hmmm... so this is what all this talk of GPS is... it seems to be the craze of this new electronic age... GPS. Everybody seems to have it nowadays.

[viking]

Gandhian Penis Syndrome... GPS. Hmmm... so this is what all this talk of GPS is... it seems to be the craze of this new electronic age... GPS. Everybody seems to have it nowadays.

:D:D

You mean that Gandhi's version was the ancient pointer which took him places before everyone else got one for themselves?

[viking]

Thank you for agreeing. Wah Viking....I didnt think you would give in so soon :)

Seriously Rakhi..what do you think that an old ugly bandicoot should have to be sexually attractive to women less than a quarter of his age?

Lets not digress from the topic which is the 'Gandhian Penis Syndrome' :)

[Robert]

Anybody read this?

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/6161691.stm

[viking]

Anybody read this?

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/6161691.stm

The Gandhian Penis has dimensions at par with international standards.:up: Look at the picture in the opening post.

[Anonymous]

The Gandhian Penis has dimensions at par with international standards.:up: Look at the picture in the opening post.
On boy, if u & me r on the same page, i am :rotfl:.
Mahatma Gandhi may have done quite harmful things to india/hinduism, but the simplicity/peace visible on his face is noteworthy:up:

Bande mein kuch baat to thi!:up: only india and hinsuism can produce such a "bechara yet powerful" person.

But all his philosophy would have failed in front of katua-philosphy for sure. Angrez goron tak theek tha.

[viking]

but the simplicity/peace visible on his face is noteworthy:up:



Yeah the kind of sex that he had made his face blissful and his Gandhian Penis condom worthy.:rolleyes:

[ashdoc]

sutradharji, doc bhai ka semi-porno post is sometimes visible and sometimes not. strange behavior. or may be u r doing some action behind the scenes right now? if not, this may be a bug with the deployed app.

let me imagine the scene when gandhi momentarily lost control and got a hard-on ( see this post - http://www.echarcha.com/forum/showpost.php?p=466029&postcount=8while ) while sleeping naked with manu---

gandhi was surveying the gorgeous nudity spread in front of him saddled in the darkness of the night with eyes mesmerised with everlasting lust .

temptation...........!!!

the sweet lips were luscious and red like ripe fruit........inviting ,wanting to be kissed ,and gandhi was tempted to place his lips on the youthful lips of the young girl.....and suck the juices that flowed through the mouth.......his tongue forked out in naked desire.......

below lay the superb neckline -a mark of everlasting beauty....

and below the neckline ......the chest ,with the two mounds of pleasure,the seeing of which ,is every mans dream.....the mounds went up and down with every breath taken by the lovely chest.

below it lay the sublime contours of the soft belly ,with the deep navel ......

down south of it lay the jungle of hair covering the cave that every man wants to enter..... for the cave gives undreamed of pleasures.........the cave that lies between two lissome legs.

gandhi could see his pole of muscle hardening ,his mole hill become a mighty mountain of flesh.........

yet he controlled himself !!

for the young girl belonged to someone else.........the man who was to become her husband ........who ,sometome in the future waited in the wings ...........to deflower the virginity of the maiden......the man who would mount her ,enjoy her body.....

and besides .........his own wow of bramhacharya lay like a bulwark between the union of their two bodies.........a union that would leave both of them breathless ..and bathed in perspiration.........but with satiated souls............but it could not happen........it just could not............

So gandhi reluctantly went to sleep ,his dreams full of unfulfilled desires........

[landyaBhai]

I have a question: the same question that the great Vikingji has asked:

How many of you are content with your sexuality? How many of you are content with your rituals and worship? Have you ever gone on a path of self-development where you keep on working with yourself to remove the vices that you are plagued with? I am sure most of us are blissfully ignorant of ourselves, let alone with our vices ... Viking talks about the Gandhi Penis ... only a person like you can pick that ... Gandhi had the balls to try it out in the public and let all know that whatever others are doing are just dramas ... nothing has ever been achieved by mere rituals, he came to that conclusion long back ... You must not have read his book on "My experiments with truth" for you are complacent about your ideas as being universal truths ... the person had the guts to call it as an experiment and that too with truths ... You will not understand what is the meaning of these two words when juxtaposed together in a sentence ...

[viking]

I have a question: the same question that the great Vikingji has asked:

How many of you are content with your sexuality? How many of you are content with your rituals and worship? Have you ever gone on a path of self-development where you keep on working with yourself to remove the vices that you are plagued with? I am sure most of us are blissfully ignorant of ourselves, let alone with our vices ... Viking talks about the Gandhi Penis ... only a person like you can pick that ... Gandhi had the balls to try it out in the public and let all know that whatever others are doing are just dramas ... nothing has ever been achieved by mere rituals, he came to that conclusion long back ... You must not have read his book on "My experiments with truth" for you are complacent about your ideas as being universal truths ... the person had the guts to call it as an experiment and that too with truths ... You will not understand what is the meaning of these two words when juxtaposed together in a sentence ...

Your excellency Landyabhai ji,

Actually I'm not as great as Gandhi. I dont claim to do experiments with Brahmancharya while being married and having children of my own. I do not (cannot) have the courage to use my wife to father children and then later use other womens naked bodies to overcome dominant urges which I should have normally satisfied by the time I was 40 or 50. Infact even though I'm not even 40 I still have enough self control on myself. My urges do not spill over to other women as easily. Thats because I probably do not have a 'Gandhian Penis'.

I would like to be a good father to my children and not have my children convert to other religions in order to draw my attention, while I'm busy experimenting with naked women less that quarter of my age and naming the lustful activity as 'An experiment with truth'. Remember the story of Manilal one amongst Gandhis 4 children? I'm sure you do as you are Gandhis fan! Not me.

I'm a mere mortal and do not have a 'Gandhian Penis'. Do you?:eek: Or if not, do you secretly desire to have a Gandhian Penis of your own??:rolleyes:

Yes you are right Gandhi had the balls (actually a Gandhian Penis) to sleep with Naked girls in public. I do not have the courage to do it with different naked women even in private!!.

[landyaBhai]

Your excellency Landyabhai ji,

Actually I'm not as great as Gandhi. I dont claim to do experiments with Brahmancharya while being married and having children of my own. I do not (cannot) have the courage to use my wife to father children and then later use other womens naked bodies to overcome dominant urges which I should have normally satisfied by the time I was 40 or 50. Infact even though I'm not even 40 I still have enough self control on myself. My urges do not spill over to other women as easily. Thats because I probably do not have a 'Gandhian Penis'.

I would like to be a good father to my children and not have my children convert to other religions in order to draw my attention, while I'm busy experimenting with naked women less that quarter of my age and naming the lustful activity as 'An experiment with truth'. Remember the story of Manilal one amongst Gandhis 4 children? I'm sure you do as you are Gandhis fan! Not me.

I'm a mere mortal and do not have a 'Gandhian Penis'. Do you?:eek: Or if not, do you secretly desire to have a Gandhian Penis of your own??:rolleyes:

Yes you are right Gandhi had the balls (actually a Gandhian Penis) to sleep with Naked girls in public. I do not have the courage to do it with different naked women even in private!!.


Well, it is quite easy for anyone to put a label on anything ... Folks who knew Gandhi admired him for what he did ... You seem to want to jump to a particular conclusion ... If his wife and the ladies that he slept with had no problems sleeping with him have no problems whatsoever, why is that you have a problem with it ... in fact, not withstanding the problem, you have gone further to conclude that the person has a Penis ... if you could find it in Gandhi, when Gandhi seems to be looking for one (at that age), I think it gives a very clear feeling as to how you may want the same as well, except of course you know that you are not of the same stature as Gandhi ...

There was no reason to bring wife and children into the picture, except to prove that it is their faces that you see everyday that avoids you to not find the penis in yourself but in others ... do you remember your loved ones, when lust arises in your mind ... do you do the same thing when you watch LM material or any kind of porn ... Now dont tell me, you have now developed a soul for brhmacharya ... I havent, I know I have a penis and I know that I have all the urges that come with it ... At times I find myself overcome by the urges to the point of complete blindness and at times I can just see it as if it is a passing cloud ... At times I have labeled it as something bad as if the thought itself will lead me to hell than the act and at times it has dawned to me that the mere thought is more than enough ... On a clear day, I have meditated upon whatever desires or urges that come to my mental observation or my consciousness ... You are saying that you are OK with the likes of Krishna and Rama but are not with Gandhi ...what Gandhi cannot provide you with the blessings enough for day to day life and the after life ... Imagine, on any given day, if you were to meet a person Krishna or Rama on the road, you will be surprised and would probably assume that he is fake, everyone is comfortable worshiping the statue and imagining that Krishna or Rama are on his side ... but if he were to come in real life with his paraphernalia then you would lose your mind and immediately label it as fake ... but that does not apply to Gandhi or folks like Gandhi ... he was a commoner and it is quite possible to realize that there may be folks who would lead a life of simple living and high thinking (though not exactly as Gandhi) and set a practical example for others to at least think and do something with their lives ... they wouldn't be ignored only to be worshiped in photos and statues ...

This is a good thread that you brought up on echarcha ... I am not soliciting for views, but it is good once in a while to reflect what we truly believe in and what we dont want to ... most of the times both are the same, if we look deep into it .. It is just that we have chosen something blindly without much thought into it ...

[viking]

Well, it is quite easy for anyone to put a label on anything ... Folks who knew Gandhi admired him for what he did ... You seem to want to jump to a particular conclusion ... If his wife and the ladies that he slept with had no problems sleeping with him have no problems whatsoever, why is that you have a problem with it ... in fact, not withstanding the problem, you have gone further to conclude that the person has a Penis ... if you could find it in Gandhi, when Gandhi seems to be looking for one (at that age), I think it gives a very clear feeling as to how you may want the same as well, except of course you know that you are not of the same stature as Gandhi ...

There was no reason to bring wife and children into the picture, except to prove that it is their faces that you see everyday that avoids you to not find the penis in yourself but in others ... do you remember your loved ones, when lust arises in your mind ... do you do the same thing when you watch LM material or any kind of porn ... Now dont tell me, you have now developed a soul for brhmacharya ... I havent, I know I have a penis and I know that I have all the urges that come with it ... At times I find myself overcome by the urges to the point of complete blindness and at times I can just see it as if it is a passing cloud ... At times I have labeled it as something bad as if the thought itself will lead me to hell than the act and at times it has dawned to me that the mere thought is more than enough ... On a clear day, I have meditated upon whatever desires or urges that come to my mental observation or my consciousness ... You are saying that you are OK with the likes of Krishna and Rama but are not with Gandhi ...what Gandhi cannot provide you with the blessings enough for day to day life and the after life ... Imagine, on any given day, if you were to meet a person Krishna or Rama on the road, you will be surprised and would probably assume that he is fake, everyone is comfortable worshiping the statue and imagining that Krishna or Rama are on his side ... but if he were to come in real life with his paraphernalia then you would lose your mind and immediately label it as fake ... but that does not apply to Gandhi or folks like Gandhi ... he was a commoner and it is quite possible to realize that there may be folks who would lead a life of simple living and high thinking (though not exactly as Gandhi) and set a practical example for others to at least think and do something with their lives ... they wouldn't be ignored only to be worshiped in photos and statues ...

This is a good thread that you brought up on echarcha ... I am not soliciting for views, but it is good once in a while to reflect what we truly believe in and what we dont want to ... most of the times both are the same, if we look deep into it .. It is just that we have chosen something blindly without much thought into it ...

I think you are fascinated with the prospect of having a Gandhian Penis.:rolleyes:

[sgars]

All 3 of them

[viking]

All 3 of them

???

So whats your opinion? What are the characteristics of a Gandhian Penis?

[motowner]

Great topic viking!

I believe to have the GPS, you have to be a megalomaniac, like the big daddy himself. Never have any self doubt, and believe in yourself like you are God. Power, fame, influence and everything else will follow.

[viking]

Great topic viking!

I believe to have the GPS, you have to be a megalomaniac, like the big daddy himself. Never have any self doubt, and believe in yourself like you are God. Power, fame, influence and everything else will follow.

Thanks :)

Yes this describes the Gandhian Penis aptly!:up:

[echarcha]

You mean like this?? :D

[sgars]

???

So whats your opinion? What are the characteristics of a Gandhian Penis?


You have already explained the characteristics in yourfirst poll.

My opionion is that you need all 3 of power, fame and influence to have it,...

[landyaBhai]

I think you are fascinated with the prospect of having a Gandhian Penis.:rolleyes:

I think you know everyone much better than yourself ... Please continue labeling, I am sure it brings some satisfaction ...

[landyaBhai]

You have already explained the characteristics in yourfirst poll.

My opionion is that you need all 3 of power, fame and influence to have it,...

If you dont know you have one, then there is no use of fame and power and what not ...

if you have one, then I am sure there is a possibility of one using one's mind pretty creatively for satisfaction even if it means imagining sexual positions in head ...

[landyaBhai]

Great topic viking!

I believe to have the GPS, you have to be a megalomaniac, like the big daddy himself. Never have any self doubt, and believe in yourself like you are God. Power, fame, influence and everything else will follow.

So you are saying, commoners cannot avail for themselves any satisfaction for their penises ... What do you think porn, sex toys, playboys and mastrams are doing?

[landyaBhai]

Yeah the kind of sex that he had made his face blissful and his Gandhian Penis condom worthy.:rolleyes:

VikingPai, atleast give arguements that prove your side ... here what you are saying is quite the contrary to what you want to conclude ...

So peace is coming from sex? which means you dont have peace? or you shun peace coming out of sex? what is it that you want to prove ...

if blissfulness comes out of love, what is wrong with that ... Anyday between war and peace, it is better to chose peace ... hate and love, better to choose love ...

[ashdoc]

ab mera gandhi gaya ,uska gandhian penis bhi gaya ,ab mai kiske saath nangi so-ungi.......:rolleyes:

two of GANDHI's favourite bedmates ,manu and abha are seen grieving over his dead body :yawn:

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[viking]

I mean it must have taken courage to slay a person who had the guts to sleep naked with his own niece and even disclose this to the public!

[landyaBhai]

I mean it must have taken courage to slay a person who had the guts to sleep naked with his own niece and even disclose this to the public!

does it take courage to be angry? how do you think murdering someone takes courage?

VikingPai, your question puts both Krishna and Gandhi to be made available for public slaying ... Krishna did the same except did not mention in detail exactly what he did with his 24000 wives ... not that I am using that as a measure to grade a person's intelligence or maturity ... none of us can ... but you on the contrary seem to ignore one and capitulate on the other ... You have to bring rationality and even-mindedness in your thinking ... it is never too late, for nature or this existence always brings a person to crossroads where confrontations are bound to happen between paradoxes that we conveniently assume to exalt the other while slaying another at the same time...

[ashdoc]

does it take courage to be angry? how do you think murdering someone takes courage?
yeah ,it takes courage.godse was going to be hated by the whole nation for what he did, and he was not going to be feted and revered as a hero like bhagat singh or chandrashekhar azad.

yet he killed gandhi knowing fully well what its consequences would be for not only him,but also his family.


VikingPai, your question puts both Krishna and Gandhi to be made available for public slaying ... Krishna did the same except did not mention in detail exactly what he did with his 24000 wives ... not that I am using that as a measure to grade a person's intelligence or maturity ... none of us can ... but you on the contrary seem to ignore one and capitulate on the other ... You have to bring rationality and even-mindedness in your thinking ... it is never too late, for nature or this existence always brings a person to crossroads where confrontations are bound to happen between paradoxes that we conveniently assume to exalt the other while slaying another at the same time...

do you even know why krishna married his many wives.

you dont even know their number......it is 16,108 ,not 24000.

he married them because a rakshasa had kidnapped and raped them .
once the rakshasa was killed by krishna , these unfortunate ' fallen women ' had nobody to save them ,as they had been 'used ' by the rakshasa.

these women themselves implored krishna to marry them as no-one else was ready to marry them ,and would have been abandoned.

it was an act of social service , and krishna was not using them as sex-toys for any ' experiments with half-baked untruths' like the so called mahatma .


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[ashdoc]

The man who should have been hero..........

Photo of Param pujya Nathuram Godseji at his brother Gopal Godse's house-


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[landyaBhai]

yeah ,it takes courage.godse was going to be hated by the whole nation for what he did, and he was not going to be feted and revered as a hero like bhagat singh or chandrashekhar azad.

yet he killed gandhi knowing fully well what its consequences would be for not only him,but also his family.


So basically it was a straightforward deal ... a bargain ... kill Gandhi and be ready for being maligned in history ... That is what terrorists are doing to the world today ... whoever who disagrees with their ideology they are willing to kill them and be ready to suffer the consequences ...

AshDoc pai please dont conclude on behalf of what other personalities really thought or believed in ... you are saying that for Chandrashekar and Bhagat Singh, popularity was the encouragement to lay down their life?

do you even know why krishna married his many wives.

you dont even know their number......it is 16,108 ,not 24000.

he married them because a rakshasa had kidnapped and raped them .
once the rakshasa was killed by krishna , these unfortunate ' fallen women ' had nobody to save them ,as they had been 'used ' by the rakshasa.

these women themselves implored krishna to marry them as no-one else was ready to marry them ,and would have been abandoned.

it was an act of social service , and krishna was not using them as sex-toys for any ' experiments with half-baked untruths' like the so called mahatma .


Good logic AshDoc pai ... So you are saying that a woman who got raped should be married off to someone (even if that someone is willing to marry her but not be able to be a regular husband) and this is just because the society is cruel and illogical ... technically the practice of Sati has also been justified by the Brhmans in their scriptures ... but only when one is being satieed does one realize that it is all BS ... Also, there were other ways Krishna could have taken care of these ladies in distress ... he could have considered them to be his mother or sister or just friends and may be get them married to whoever they really wanted to ... may be Krishna would have been better off leading a crusade against the same society where these ladies would have been ostracized after rape ... may be he could have stopped the rapes (just as he did for Draupadi) ... Also, you have said it yourself here that it is OK to accept a set of women as your wives if they have no objection ... So then what is wrong with Gandhi sleeping nude with two girls ... Also, if a girl has agreed to be a wife or a friend, would you still rationalize that it is not wrong ... Only a person who cares about the society (which is basically the politics of numbers) will rationalize ... if they cant they will exalt or condemn the person depending upon how the numbers add up to ...

[ashdoc]

So basically it was a straightforward deal ... a bargain ... kill Gandhi and be ready for being maligned in history ... That is what terrorists are doing to the world today ... whoever who disagrees with their ideology they are willing to kill them and be ready to suffer the consequences ...
godse was hardly a terrorist .he had seen was happening to his community at the hands of muslims ,and gandhi's weak-kneed reaction to it.

in bengal hindu women were kidnapped and paraded naked before being raped by their muslim captors ,and his friend karkare had personally seen this in noakhali in what is now bangladesh and showed him photoes of the atrocities.

and what was gandhi's reaction to this ........doses of more ahimsa.....!!.......and going on a fast to prevent hindus from retaliating !!

yet godse did not take the desicion to kill gandhi until gandhi undertook a fast to give pak 55 crores of rupees ,which would be used promptly by pak to buy weapons to killl indian soldiers in kashmir

AshDoc pai please dont conclude on behalf of what other personalities really thought or believed in ... you are saying that for Chandrashekar and Bhagat Singh, popularity was the encouragement to lay down their life?

i am saying nothing like that.........

what i am saying is that ,for godse the situation was much worse and even his family was going to suffer ostracism........in fact ,the whole maharashtrian brahmin community to which he belonged suffered for this ,as they were attacked and killed by the other castes.




Good logic AshDoc pai ... So you are saying that a woman who got raped should be married off to someone (even if that someone is willing to marry her but not be able to be a regular husband) and this is just because the society is cruel and illogical ... technically the practice of Sati has also been justified by the Brhmans in their scriptures ... but only when one is being satieed does one realize that it is all BS ... Also, there were other ways Krishna could have taken care of these ladies in distress ... he could have considered them to be his mother or sister or just friends and may be get them married to whoever they really wanted to ... may be Krishna would have been better off leading a crusade against the same society where these ladies would have been ostracized after rape ... may be he could have stopped the rapes (just as he did for Draupadi) ... Also, you have said it yourself here that it is OK to accept a set of women as your wives if they have no objection ... So then what is wrong with Gandhi sleeping nude with two girls ... Also, if a girl has agreed to be a wife or a friend, would you still rationalize that it is not wrong ... Only a person who cares about the society (which is basically the politics of numbers) will rationalize ... if they cant they will exalt or condemn the person depending upon how the numbers add up to ...
you are forgetting that the women had no one to turn to as their families had been killled by the rakshashas and were alone in the world.

the women themselves asked krishna to marry them.

and in the society of those times krishna could not carry out a social reform movement like today as the people were hide-bound with tradition.

modern times were yet to come....

krishna was not an old man like gandhi ,doing some bullshit experiments like sleeping naked with his own grand -neice just to see if she aroused him or not.

he was an eminently practical person ,who offered practical solutions to problems and did not hesitate to kill and used violence when necessary.



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[landyaBhai]

So basically it was a straightforward deal ... a bargain ... kill Gandhi and be ready for being maligned in history ... That is what terrorists are doing to the world today ... whoever who disagrees with their ideology they are willing to kill them and be ready to suffer the consequences ...
godse was hardly a terrorist .he had seen was happening to his community at the hands of muslims ,and gandhi's weak-kneed reaction to it.

in bengal hindu women were kidnapped and paraded naked before being raped by their muslim captors ,and his friend karkare had personally seen this in noakhali in what is now bangladesh and showed him photoes of the atrocities.

and what was gandhi's reaction to this ........doses of more ahimsa.....!!.......and going on a fast to prevent hindus from retaliating !!

yet godse did not take the desicion to kill gandhi until gandhi undertook a fast to give pak 55 crores of rupees ,which would be used promptly by pak to buy weapons to killl indian soldiers in kashmir

AshDoc pai please dont conclude on behalf of what other personalities really thought or believed in ... you are saying that for Chandrashekar and Bhagat Singh, popularity was the encouragement to lay down their life?

i am saying nothing like that.........

what i am saying is that ,for godse the situation was much worse and even his family was going to suffer ostracism........in fact ,the whole maharashtrian brahmin community to which he belonged suffered for this ,as they were attacked and killed by the other castes.




Good logic AshDoc pai ... So you are saying that a woman who got raped should be married off to someone (even if that someone is willing to marry her but not be able to be a regular husband) and this is just because the society is cruel and illogical ... technically the practice of Sati has also been justified by the Brhmans in their scriptures ... but only when one is being satieed does one realize that it is all BS ... Also, there were other ways Krishna could have taken care of these ladies in distress ... he could have considered them to be his mother or sister or just friends and may be get them married to whoever they really wanted to ... may be Krishna would have been better off leading a crusade against the same society where these ladies would have been ostracized after rape ... may be he could have stopped the rapes (just as he did for Draupadi) ... Also, you have said it yourself here that it is OK to accept a set of women as your wives if they have no objection ... So then what is wrong with Gandhi sleeping nude with two girls ... Also, if a girl has agreed to be a wife or a friend, would you still rationalize that it is not wrong ... Only a person who cares about the society (which is basically the politics of numbers) will rationalize ... if they cant they will exalt or condemn the person depending upon how the numbers add up to ...
you are forgetting that the women had no one to turn to as their families had been killled by the rakshashas and were alone in the world.

the women themselves asked krishna to marry them.

and in the society of those times krishna could not carry out a social reform movement like today as the people were hide-bound with tradition.

modern times were yet to come....

krishna was not an old man like gandhi ,doing some bullshit experiments like sleeping naked with his own grand -neice just to see if she aroused him or not.

he was an eminently practical person ,who offered practical solutions to problems and did not hesitate to kill and used violence when necessary.



A one person who is a terrorist is a freedom fighter for another and vice-versa ... We Indians always take a short cut solution ... You have said it right, we are not brave ... Godse took an approach which anyone would have taken .. had he tried a non-violent way, I am sure it would have been the most difficult task to do ... but we take the easy way ... and you are saying there was courage in it ... heck the person is ready to die, how do you deal with the society after you are dead ... You cant ... even when he was alive he took the shortest approach acting on the impetus of the society and accepting that the non-violent way would have been the difficult ...

There are three ways of interacting with a person like Gandhi:

(1) Join him
(2) Go your own way
(3) Condemn him

All the three if pursued non-violently are difficult and impossible ... The short cut is to just kill ... But people forget you cannot kill an ideology (however correct or incorrect it is by killing the person or the whole clan) ... The fact that India has been spineless is just because of folks like Godse who took the shortest approach (or folks like Nehru lala who just sat on things and did nothing) ... You cannot transform the society of its prejudices (even if they are coming from Gandhi or Krishna) just by killing Gandhi or Krishna ... infact after someone is killed, he gets famous ...and automatically the words from that person become a religion ... hence as of now, nobody can question Gandhianism ... it is still popular ...

Regarding Krishna, he was a man in his own might ... If raas leela and his other past times were to be read by a close-minded society, it will be outrageous for anyone to accept him as a sane person ... even if Krishna were to do a raas leela today outside your apartment complex, the society will reject him if not pelt stones at him ...

So please dont use the same reasoning to justify one and malign the other ... for all you can do is read about these persons and still not be able to know the person for real ... Godse did not kill Gandhi ... he wanted to kill Gandhianism ... Godse can never have known Gandhi as he is as a person ... Just as you and me cannot know exactly who Godse was in reality ... We just want to commit a person's nature by looking at his acts .... Godse concluded that Gandhi needed to be killed by his acts ... He was not aware of what Gandhi actually wanted ... Gandhi on the contrary might have assumed Godse act as violent ... and people like you and me who are sitting on the ropes are deciding from our little understanding of these two personalities as to who was Great ... Gandhi or Godse?

Plus looking at the state of affairs of the Pakistanis who have been mired in Violence since their inception, as of now, Gandhi seems to be more rational and even-minded ... Godse short cut solutions would have been more detrimental to India ... But you should realize that these things change with situation ...

[ashdoc]

Plus looking at the state of affairs of the Pakistanis who have been mired in Violence since their inception, as of now, Gandhi seems to be more rational and even-minded ... Godse short cut solutions would have been more detrimental to India ... But you should realize that these things change with situation ...

yeah pakis are mired in violence .

so why was gandhi fasting to give these crazies 55 crore rupees ,which would be used to wage war in kashmir on india ?:rolleyes:

nehru himself had said that giving pakis 55 crore rupees was giving them the ' sinews of war '.

gandhi conveniently used to forget his own ahimsa when it came to taking muslim's side .

of course this time he was going to extraordinary lengths , giving them indian money to attack india !!

so he had to be eliminated...............

[Rakhi]

of course this time he was going to extraordinary lengths , giving them indian money to attack india !!

so he had to be eliminated...............

He was eliminated alright but his ideologies are not. I think that's what Landyaji trying to say. (correct me if I am wrong)
If you want to eliminate something, you will need to target the roots. Killing a man and leaving behind his legacy will lead to further discussions (like its happening with Gandhi right now).

[ashdoc]

He was eliminated alright but his ideologies are not. I think that's what Landyaji trying to say. (correct me if I am wrong)
If you want to eliminate something, you will need to target the roots. Killing a man and leaving behind his legacy will lead to further discussions (like its happening with Gandhi right now).

killing gandhi had a practical purpose .

at least the immediate madness stopped .

his disciples who would carry forward his philosophy were not as crazy as him .

nehru ,himself a gandhi disciple, was opposed to giving 55 crores to pak.

[landyaBhai]

yeah pakis are mired in violence .

so why was gandhi fasting to give these crazies 55 crore rupees ,which would be used to wage war in kashmir on india ?:rolleyes:


I dont know, I wish I was being that even-minded at that time ... Just try to imagine being in the shoes of Gandhi (we can only do so much, imagine, but it is still worth a try) ...

Let's assume for a fact that there exists no religion and there is no fair skin, dark skin segregation business ... Now what do you think would we need Gandhi ... No ... A person like Gandhi is needed when there is a persistent feud and killing going on, on the basis of religion, caste and regionalism ... A life saved is worth more than 55 crores of rupees ... Plus, an act of non-violence has no karma ...if you dont understand karma, let me put it this way ... Killing a person requires lot of mental anguish, anger, and physical torture, not only on the person who is being perpetrated upon but also on the person who is perpetrating the violence ... 55 crores is nothing compared to the lives that could have been saved ... In this world that we live in, where we dont need much reason to go berserk or insane, Gandhi tried to do what others couldnt ... pacification ... Hindus in general are more silent and accepting of their situations as compared to muslims ... what is wrong on anybody's part to realize the degree of unconsciousness among different groups of people ... You do it unconsciously, Gandhi did it consciously ...

nehru himself had said that giving pakis 55 crore rupees was giving them the ' sinews of war '.


With regard to politicians I cannot comment ... it is just money ... and moreover, what did Nehru propose ... Anyone can comment and sit on their ass ...

gandhi conveniently used to forget his own ahimsa when it came to taking muslim's side .

Ahimsa is a very big word that anyone among us can fully understand (including Gandhi) ... but among a group of unconscious people who can go headlong to cut each other's throats, I am saying non-violence even by way of giving money is still something ... You can only do so much if you are surrounded by such emotional people in rage ...

of course this time he was going to extraordinary lengths , giving them indian money to attack india !!

so he had to be eliminated...............

You would have argued differently if you were on the other side of the border ... Please think above nations and borders ... We have to come to a point where we think in terms of the whole world (unless we want to have a third world war where nothing will remain for the next generation) ...

[Anonymous]

Gandhi was a great man indeed in his own right.

Equally great damages were done by his go-soft philosophy.We are already bearing the brunt of his misdeeds.

If he was not stopped, the picture would have been far too worse for us to even discuss.

He had to be stopped. in some way.

Simply disagreeing, arguing, going one's own way etc would not have helped.

Actually we should discuss the possible consequences were he not stopped. That would draw the conclusion.

[ashdoc]

I dont know, I wish I was being that even-minded at that time ... Just try to imagine being in the shoes of Gandhi (we can only do so much, imagine, but it is still worth a try) ...

Let's assume for a fact that there exists no religion and there is no fair skin, dark skin segregation business ... Now what do you think would we need Gandhi ... No ... A person like Gandhi is needed when there is a persistent feud and killing going on, on the basis of religion, caste and regionalism ... A life saved is worth more than 55 crores of rupees ... Plus, an act of non-violence has no karma ...if you dont understand karma, let me put it this way ... Killing a person requires lot of mental anguish, anger, and physical torture, not only on the person who is being perpetrated upon but also on the person who is perpetrating the violence ... 55 crores is nothing compared to the lives that could have been saved ... In this world that we live in, where we dont need much reason to go berserk or insane, Gandhi tried to do what others couldnt ... pacification ... Hindus in general are more silent and accepting of their situations as compared to muslims ... what is wrong on anybody's part to realize the degree of unconsciousness among different groups of people ... You do it unconsciously, Gandhi did it consciously ...
gandhis ahimsa was ........and still is....driving us to annihilation at the hand of the muslims .

no amount of philosophy-jhading by you is going to change the pakis mindset about killing us.




With regard to politicians I cannot comment ... it is just money ... and moreover, what did Nehru propose ... Anyone can comment and sit on their ass ...
as long as nehru did not propose to give 55 crore to pak ,rast is okay !!




Ahimsa is a very big word that anyone among us can fully understand (including Gandhi) ... but among a group of unconscious people who can go headlong to cut each other's throats, I am saying non-violence even by way of giving money is still something ... You can only do so much if you are surrounded by such emotional people in rage ...
you join gandhi and get yourself murdered by these rage-emotioned people.........i have no such intention....




You would have argued differently if you were on the other side of the border
so you are taking pakis side now ......good for you.............you are forgetting that you called them mired in violence just a while ago........how come you ' apostles of non-violence ' forget........or condone........ violence done by muslims is a mystery....................

[Rakhi]

killing gandhi had a practical purpose .

at least the immediate madness stopped .

his disciples who would carry forward his philosophy were not as crazy as him .

nehru ,himself a gandhi disciple, was opposed to giving 55 crores to pak.

OK...so what are you going to do with the rest of people who actually respect his ideologies? Start killing them one by one?

Also, by abusing Gandhi now or wanting the history books re-written isn't going to help! The annihilation by the Muslims would continue inspite of you claiming that Gandhi was good for nothing.

[ashdoc]

OK...so what are you going to do with the rest of people who actually respect his ideologies? Start killing them one by one?



i said that the rest of those who followed his ideas were NOT as crazy as him !!

why would i kill them ??:dontknow:

please read properly ,what i write !!

[Rakhi]

i said that the rest of those who followed his ideas were NOT as crazy as him !!

why would i kill them ??:dontknow:

please read properly ,what i write !!

I don't understand your logic. If his followers were not as crazy as him then why do we still have this annihilation by Muslims (your words)? If you think that Gandhi was 'totally' responsible for this, then it would have stopped after he was killed!

[ashdoc]

I don't understand your logic. If his followers were not as crazy as him then why do we still have this annihilation by Muslims (your words)? If you think that Gandhi was 'totally' responsible for this, then it would have stopped after he was killed!

yeah ,but the assassination of gandhi served its immediate purpose..........the madness was toned down .........now we are in 'slow death 'mode :D..........gandhi ,on the other hand was taking us on the fast track to dusty death.............

[chitrala]

You guys will be very pleased to know that after watching Sherlock Holmes yeaterday, I finally managed to solve Gandhi Murder Case.
Here is my understanding of Godse-Gandhi Scandal (With due apologies to Rabdheerjee Bhaijee)

Param poojniya shri shri shri 108* hindurakshak Godse Baba was a Congressiya. In fact he was a Nehru-Patel plant. See... what happened... Gandhi had outlived his utility and was a liability after independence... He was poking his nose into various affairs and causing discomfort for both Nehru and Patel. Like all true blue politicians both Patel and Nehru knew that it was time to get rid of Gandhi.

Now Gandhi was living dangerously, it was not 1920s when he was revered all over India, equally among Hindus and Muslims. Now he was hated by Hindus and muslims alike and was still roaming around without any security. There were high chances that he'd be killed by a muslim.
That would take the load off of Nehru-Patel but that'd also start yet another hindu-muslim riot for sure and that of unforeseen magnitude. So someone really sharp in congress came up with this idea that if a hindu kills Gandhi before any muslim could then it would solve all the problems. Muslims would say "good riddance" and Hindus cant do anything as the murderer was one of theirs.

So they spotted this fool called Godse, who was very patriotic and had noble intentions but had a great drawback, he was very religious too. He was an ideal puppet and much to the pleasure of Nehru-Patel, he was also associated with right-wingers. This would give Nehru-Patel a chance to harass and humiliate their only major political opponent the right wingers too.

Now if you see none of the reasons Godse gave was sufficient enough to kill Gandhi. There were equal number of muslims killed, raped and plundered in India if not more. India owed 55 crore to Pakistan, it was an obligation. Gandhi's personal life sextivities were not really a concern of Godse's. In addition a religious hindu killing yet another religious hindu places a great irony and was adequately cashed by congressi.

After the murder congressis weaved myths around Gandhi, escalated him to Rashtrpita status, made him into a congress icon and has been using Gandhi's image forever.

Case Solved.
you are Welcome.:D

[ashdoc]

India owed 55 crore to Pakistan, it was an obligation.

what fucking obligation.........:mad:

we are not obliged to kill ourselves and the 55 crores given to pak was going to be used to buy weapons to kill indian soldiers in kashmir.

[chitrala]

what fucking obligation.........:mad:

we are not obliged to kill ourselves and the 55 crores given to pak was going to be used to buy weapons to kill indian soldiers in kashmir.
I was not talking about what Pakistan could do with 55 crores.... I was stating a fact that India owed 55 cr to Pak and Kashmir was not a province of India yet.

[viking]

I don't understand your logic. If his followers were not as crazy as him then why do we still have this annihilation by Muslims (your words)? If you think that Gandhi was 'totally' responsible for this, then it would have stopped after he was killed!

If Pakistan was formed on the basis of religious affiliation Indian should have been formed the same way. No the boold shead could not have been stopped but there should have been blood shed in India as well to send the Muslims to Pakistan.

Gandhi allowed a huge Paksitani poulation to stay back in India. The only reason they stayed back was because they had property here in India.

[viking]

I was not talking about what Pakistan could do with 55 crores.... I was stating a fact that India owed 55 cr to Pak and Kashmir was not a province of India yet.

Oh yeah India owed Pakistan 55 crores. Then India ought to have sent all the Muslims in India to Paksitan at that time.

[Rakhi]

If Pakistan was formed on the basis of religious affiliation Indian should have been formed the same way. No the boold shead could not have been stopped but there should have been blood shed in India as well to send the Muslims to Pakistan.

Gandhi allowed a huge Paksitani poulation to stay back in India. The only reason they stayed back was because they had property here in India.

Viking, I understand that Muslim league and Pakistan were based on religion. You are calling for a blood shed to send all the Muslim population to Pakistan. How is India different from Pakistan if we are also based on religions fanaticism? Just for a moment think from the shoes of people who were actually living in those days. I also understand that Muslims have been/will be a huge problem for India. Blood shed is not the solution. You will only fuel terrorist groups based on religion (we already have enough) to start annihilating others if you go that path.

Instead what can be done is to take measures to fix the problem; Like tight security at the borders, family planning so that Muslim population grows at the same rate as others etc. Its a long term process. Killing is just not the solution.

[viking]

Like tight security at the borders, family planning so that Muslim population grows at the same rate as others etc. Its a long term process. Killing is just not the solution.

LOL! :D

See the fuss made by Muslims in India when they were strictly checked at international airports. Remeber the Shah Rukh Khan frisking episode?

Also, do you think with their personal law in India family planning can be imposed on them?:rotfl:

[Rakhi]

LOL! :D

See the fuss made by Muslims in India when they were strictly checked at international airports. Remeber the Shah Rukh Khan frisking episode?

Also, do you think with their personal law in India family planning can be imposed on them?:rotfl:

No...i am not saying that it has to be imposed on Muslims alone. It should be done on everyone but it will have a huge impact on Muslims because its them we are trying to address.

Viking...its very easy to pass on the blame on someone else. especially when someone is not even alive to defend their actions. In stead of just criticizing all the time, at least if we take a few measures it might help. Worth a try to fix the damage done isnt it?

[viking]

No...i am not saying that it has to be imposed on Muslims alone. It should be done on everyone but it will have a huge impact on Muslims because its them we are trying to address.

Viking...its very easy to pass on the blame on someone else. especially when someone is not even alive to defend their actions. In stead of just criticizing all the time, at least if we take a few measures it might help. Worth a try to fix the damage done isnt it?


One of BJP's action items in their manifesto's is the 'Common Civil Code'. Where even Muslims will be allowed to have only one wife and not four as is the case now. But then they are dubbed communal. The Muslims oppose this tooth and nail. How are you going to do that in India when even in France there is opposition to the ban on burkhas???

Muslims were known to be rigid even at the time of partition, even so that guy who slept with his naked teenaged niece allowed the vermin to stay on in India!

[Anonymous]

Instead what can be done is to take measures to fix the problem; Like tight security at the borders, family planning so that Muslim population grows at the same rate as others etc. Its a long term process.

these remedies may be helpful but not sufficient.

[Rakhi]

One of BJP's action items in their manifesto's is the 'Common Civil Code'. Where even Muslims will be allowed to have only one wife and not four as is the case now. But then they are dubbed communal. The Muslims oppose this tooth and nail. How are you going to do that in India when even in France there is opposition to the ban on burkhas???

Muslims were known to be rigid even at the time of partition, even so that guy who slept with his naked teenaged niece allowed the vermin to stay on in India!

I give up Viking...There surely are ways to fix problems without blood shed like I always say and like you always differ. You are merely searching for excuses without giving a thought to solution.
Now tell me...according to you what should be done now to fix the problem? BJP in power? If yes, what exactly are you doing to promote BJP's ideologies?
Or, are you suggesting another Hindu-Muslim blood shed now?

[viking]

I give up Viking...There surely are ways to fix problems without blood shed like I always say and like you always differ. You are merely searching for excuses without giving a thought to solution.
Now tell me...according to you what should be done now to fix the problem? BJP in power? If yes, what exactly are you doing to promote BJP's ideologies?
Or, are you suggesting another Hindu-Muslim blood shed now?

I'm not suggesting bloodshed. It's inevitable! Can you explain why so many people were killed in Mumbai on 26/11?

The Muslims love blood shed try and stop that!

BTW even your famous friend Gandhi with his super performer Penis could not stop the ethnic cleansing in Pakistan with his stupid fasts or Satyagrahas.

[Rakhi]

I'm not suggesting bloodshed. It's inevitable! Can you explain why so many people were killed in Mumbai on 26/11?

The Muslims love blood shed try and stop that!

Then what are you suggesting?

[viking]

Then what are you suggesting?

I was suggesting that Gandhis policies were flawed and that Muslims should have been peacefully asked to go to Pakistan at that time.

Can you suggest ways of stoppng Muslim related problems all over the world?

[Rakhi]

I was suggesting that Gandhis policies were flawed and that Muslims should have been peacefully asked to go to Pakistan at that time.

Can you suggest ways of stoppng Muslim related problems all over the world?

I already suggested what I could and you thought it would not work; at least i was saying something which can be attempted today. Not which should/could have been done about 50 years ago.

[Anonymous]

its an evil ideology. when dealing with evil, you need to extend the olive branch and display the DANDA also (just in case). thats the solution and the olny solution. with MKG, he was doing only the former.
india is doing the right thing at the moment.

[viking]

Pushing this thread up.:D