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ashdoc
September 28th, 2009, 07:47 PM
Gujarat chief minister Narendra Modi on Monday performed shastra puja (worship of weapons) at his official residence in Gandhinagar, raising questions whether someone in his position should be taking part in such a ritual.

On display at the prayers, while members of the elite National Security Guard (NSG) and the state police looked on, were sub- machine guns, AKseries assault rifles, and prohibited bore pistols. These are regular issue for the NSG, paramilitary forces and the Army.

Also placed in the row of weapons for the prayers - usually performed on Vijaya Dashami, the last day of Navratra - were swords, tridents, clubs and axes.

As the CM performed the prayers for close to two hours, none of the NSG men appeared to be armed. Their weapons had evidently been presented for the ritual.

This worship is a traditional ritual, followed by those who carry weapons-like the Rajputs, or members of the armed forces and the police. It is believed to have its genesis in the worship of weapons by Rama's followers before the final battle with Ravana, in which the demon king was killed.

However, when a top civilian representative takes part in such a practice, controversy is bound to follow.

Modi has made this an annual ritual, and those close to him insist he has not done anything unusual. The CM's office too did not think it was out of place for him to worship deadly weapons belonging to NSG personnel.

"The CM started the shastra puja tradition on Vijaya Dashami in 2002. Everyone, including the security personnel and the NSG men, takes part. No one has ever said anything," said Jagdish Thacker, Modi's media advisor.

However, that may no longer be true. The Congress expressed surprise at the chief minister's worship of deadly weapons and said it showed his weak character rather than strength.

"The attempts of the chief minister of Gujarat to project a muscular image are nothing short of comic," said Congress spokesperson Manish Tewari.

The Left condemned it as a "medieval" practice. "What is he trying to do? He should have some sense. No one can be stopped from offering prayers on Vijaya Dashami but collecting arms from security personnel and worshipping them is going a bit too far," said CPI general secretary A.B. Bardhan.

Modi's party, the BJP, appeared to be trying to make sense of what political message the Hindu Hriday Samrat was sending. "I really do not know anything about it," said BJP spokesperson Rajiv Pratap Rudy. However, the fact that NSG men did not have their weapons seems to have upset the brass of the elite force that protects VIPs. NSG director-general NPS Aulakh was unavailable for comment. But, a senior official in Delhi said there were strict guidelines for the commandos to always hold their weapons while on duty.

"At any time, there are six to eight NSG commandos with their weapons-usually an MP5 or an AK-series rifle-guarding the closest security ring of a Z-plus protectee like Modi. In no event are they supposed to hand over their weapons to anyone," he said.

He said if on- duty NSG commandos had flouted the rules, the matter would invite an internal inquiry.

Former NSG director- general Ved Marwah said, "I am sure rules do not allow for such a thing, where commandos hand over weapons for worship. Maybe the commandos could not say 'no' to the chief minister. I cannot recall any such case during my tenure at the NSG."

President Pratibha Patil posed with an AK-47 rifle recovered from militants during her visit to Jammu & Kashmir in May last year.

The President, seen with a weapon linked to militants, was disapproved by many. Jammu & Kashmir chief minister Omar Abdullah criticised Patil on his blog, saying he would have rather seen her talking to kids about the future. He wrote: "it (was a) reminder of the one object that has caused so much death and destruction over the last 18 years."

http://indiatoday.intoday.in/site/Story/63960/LATEST%20NEWS/Modi+worships+assault+guns.html

ashdoc
September 28th, 2009, 08:12 PM
photo as it came in todays newspaper .

didn't find it on the net.

12683

Randheer
September 28th, 2009, 09:39 PM
Very Good :up:. Symbolic but phat jaayegi criminals aur terrorists ki. :up:

raniraja
September 28th, 2009, 09:42 PM
Very Good :up:. Symbolic but phat jaayegi criminals aur terrorists ki. :up:
Maybe, but it should have been a private ceremony.. Also, it was wrong of him to strip the NSG of their weapons, just as for the NSG, it was wrong to remove weapons on his say so.

I suspect this is some kind of muscle flexing exercise by Modi. He is aware of the issues involved. Being a shrewd politician, I think he wants to send some kind of message, and it is not really just a publicity stunt.

2gud
September 28th, 2009, 09:49 PM
This is common ritual during Dasara, we call it "Ayudha Puja" and it can involve decorating and worshiping not only weaponry but any equipment that is used for a livelihood like vehicles, tools etc. This is worshiping "Vishwakarma" the God of all works and crafts.

sprite
September 29th, 2009, 02:12 AM
Was in front page of ToI here :rolleyes:

http://epaper.timesofindia.com/Default/Client.asp?Daily=TOIPU&showST=true&login=default&pub=TOI&Enter=true&Skin=TOINEW&GZ=T&AW=1254215461750

As 2gud pai said, it is a very common ritual. Dunno what media wants to convey here :rolleyes:
Infact this is the only time of year when the licensed 12-bore rifle, .22 rifle and revolver (personal) etc comes out in open at my parents place for this 'pooja' (ofcourse minus common commisoner directives to deposit licensed weapons in armoury during elections etc etc)

aragorn
September 29th, 2009, 03:09 AM
I voted No. He should not be PM.

India deservs likes of MMS and anyone who is nominated by 10, Janpath.

Leave Modi for Gujarat ;)

ashdoc
September 29th, 2009, 04:31 AM
Leave Modi for Gujarat ;)

saala selfish.......:down:

Mr.Bharat
September 29th, 2009, 04:53 AM
Was in front page of ToI here :rolleyes:

http://epaper.timesofindia.com/Default/Client.asp?Daily=TOIPU&showST=true&login=default&pub=TOI&Enter=true&Skin=TOINEW&GZ=T&AW=1254215461750

As 2gud pai said, it is a very common ritual. Dunno what media wants to convey here :rolleyes:


as you said ayudha puja during dushehra, is an age old tradition.
see...how media wants to showcase him. A worshipper of weapons, killer .
selective and propagandist journalism. the person who clicked this photo would have been given a promotion or salary hike. Anything and everything to show modi in badlight and beat BJP.

aragorn
September 29th, 2009, 05:03 AM
saala selfish.......:down:

:rotfl:

kya karen bhai...he is doing some excellent work here..

just an example...this time when monsoon got delayed...he ordered to create some boribandhs in all districts and asked all the DDOs and TDOs to monitor them so when finally we got rain...all of them got filled and water problem was instantly solved...and i know this because i went to give demo of our software to one south gujarat DDO and he was getting a treatment from some collector level person for not monitoring the work...

tum log congress/NCP ko vote karo ya fir MNS ko...:smartass:


Edit : And yeah congress cant digest this so their spokes person is accusing that gujarat govt is using money provided by center allocated for some rojgaar scheme to create these bodibandhs :D

milanfanabhi
September 29th, 2009, 05:31 AM
Infact this is the only time of year when the licensed 12-bore rifle, .22 rifle and revolver (personal) etc comes out in open at my parents place for this 'pooja' (ofcourse minus common commisoner directives to deposit licensed weapons in armoury during elections etc etc)

infact this is the only time of year when police force also take out their astras..else they wait till the terrorists force them;)

sarv_shaktimaan
September 29th, 2009, 06:53 AM
This is common ritual during Dasara, we call it "Ayudha Puja" and it can involve decorating and worshiping not only weaponry but any equipment that is used for a livelihood like vehicles, tools etc. This is worshiping "Vishwakarma" the God of all works and crafts.
Exactly what I was about to say... :up:

I see nothing wrong with the ritual. One must be thankful to the tools/ equipment used for livelyhood. I recall that in Karnataka all factories and machines are decorated and everyone (including Muslims/Christians) is present during the ceremony/puja... at least in the factories I've visited in Bangalore around Dassera time.

raniraja
September 29th, 2009, 06:58 AM
This is common ritual during Dasara, we call it "Ayudha Puja" and it can involve decorating and worshiping not only weaponry but any equipment that is used for a livelihood like vehicles, tools etc. This is worshiping "Vishwakarma" the God of all works and crafts.
Ok, but he was not shown offering puja to the garderner's implements.

sarv_shaktimaan
September 29th, 2009, 07:11 AM
Ok, but he was not shown offering puja to the garderner's implements.
Don't tell me you haven't heard of Shastra pooja... it wasn't invented by Modi now, is it?

raniraja
September 29th, 2009, 07:16 AM
Don't tell me you haven't heard of Shastra pooja... it wasn't invented by Modi now, is it?

Yes, I have heard of shastra puja, but wasn't the earlier post by 2gud referring to Vishwakarma and arts and crafts etc..

Vishwakarma puja ke liye to saare mistry chhutti pe rehte hai.. (the carpenters and colorwala and electrician and flooringwala etc. go on a leave and return only when they please...)

Anyway, I still hold to view as expressed earlier herein. (http://www.echarcha.com/forum/showpost.php?p=451322&postcount=4)