Maa Ben Gaali Galoch ... Concept and Application ... Study into Humor!

[tantric_yogi]

Fun? And now we had a recent episode except it was not among friends.

Can someone here please explain to me concept of humor in maa ben gaali galoch and its implied applications? I am sorry but you will need to speak on my level cause I didn't grow up in slums nor associate with drunks nor as educated as you guys.

No need to get into graphics cause my mother is dead and got no sister and I got too much respect for females of your family to reciprocate in like manner. Serious ... I am not kidding ... what am I missing ... which part packs the punch?

Let's see now ... A and B are good friends and get along well ... A tells B ... your mother is very nice. A knows there is nothing to stop B from complimenting in like manners ... B is happy to oblige ... B tells A ... I like your mother as much as you love mine. Which is the fun part?

Serious ...

[chitrala]

Few years ago ... we had a group of educated members from North America ... unfortunately almost all of them are no longer with us ... they knew each other in person and were good friends and they indulged in fun. I asked them cause I couldn't understand ... humor in abusing each others female family members ... which is the fun part? Practice stopped after my query but a good brother ( Bro :) ... wishing you a happy Eid ... hope life is being fair to you) did reply in a PM ... this is all fun and normal among Indian friends!

Fun?

And now we had a recent episode except it was not among friends.

Can someone here please explain to me concept of humor in maa ben gaali galoch and its implied applications? I am sorry but you will need to speak on my level cause I didn't grow up in slums nor associate with drunks nor as educated as you guys.

No need to get into graphics cause my mother is dead and got no sister and I got too much respect for females of your family to reciprocate in like manner. Serious ... I am not kidding ... what am I missing ... which part packs the punch?

Let's see now ... A and B are good friends and get along well ... A tells B ... your mother is very nice. A knows there is nothing to stop B from complimenting in like manners ... B is happy to oblige ... B tells A ... I like your mother as much as you love mine. Which is the fun part?

Serious ...


I also have never understood it... esp. when you are brought up in jharkhand/mp where maa-behan is really a big deal and you reach delhi to find people openly showing interest in each others' female family members and their body parts.... for much lesser than that I m pretty sure literally shit would be beaten out of you in patna....

But again it's a cultural thing....It is very much prevalent in engg college... guys calling each other with all sort of adjectives... I have used those gaalis very rarely in my life and it is yet to happen that I had not felt bad after using that no matter how angry I was....

Thinking about it, it may be a language thing apart from culture thing.... for some of us saala/kameena etc doesnt sound llike a gaali... for some (hootiya is a daily use word.... we use it as a filler....for want of better words... to express yourself.... it does show pathetic limitation of vocabulary but at the end it does serve purpose... I am pretty sure the use of word 'saala' would be enough to incense my parents...

I think different people have different boundaries... we may feel free to call our friends saala but not a stranger... similarly some people have this close group of friends where they can be at their nastiest without giving a damn what other would be thinking.... or may be knowing that other wouldnt care to judge...

After all its just a word... depends upon the comfort level you share with the speaker.... profanity lies in the ears of the listener..:D

[dhurandhar]

Only in India (or south Asian subcontinent) there is a curse word for sister....for example, do you ever hear Sister Fucker?...but Mother Fucker is pretty rampant...and yet only in India there is Rakshabandhan and Bhai Duuj for brother-sister affection:D

[chitrala]

Only in India (or south Asian subcontinent) there is a curse word for sister....for example, do you ever hear Sister Fucker?...but Mother Fucker is pretty rampant...and yet only in India there is Rakshabandhan and Bhai Duuj for brother-sister affection:D
Maybe in other societies it does not amount to a gaali...:D..you never hear wife*ucker either..:D

[tantric_yogi]

I also have never understood it... esp. when you are brought up in jharkhand/mp where maa-behan is really a big deal and you reach delhi to find people openly showing interest in each others' female family members and their body parts.... for much lesser than that I m pretty sure literally shit would be beaten out of you in patna....

Shit ... another LLKC ... so you didn't grow up in the slums, do not enjoy the company of drunkards, nor too educated either. Welcome to the club. :D

But again it's a cultural thing....It is very much prevalent in engg college... guys calling each other with all sort of adjectives... I have used those gaalis very rarely in my life and it is yet to happen that I had not felt bad after using that no matter how angry I was....

Thinking about it, it may be a language thing apart from culture thing.... for some of us saala/kameena etc doesnt sound llike a gaali... for some (hootiya is a daily use word.... we use it as a filler....for want of better words... to express yourself.... it does show pathetic limitation of vocabulary but at the end it does serve purpose... I am pretty sure the use of word 'saala' would be enough to incense my parents...

I think different people have different boundaries... we may feel free to call our friends saala but not a stranger... similarly some people have this close group of friends where they can be at their nastiest without giving a damn what other would be thinking.... or may be knowing that other wouldnt care to judge...

After all its just a word... depends upon the comfort level you share with the speaker.... profanity lies in the ears of the listener..:D

Okay ... but still done in humor ... isn't it?

Okay ... fine ... so as to not get in to nitty gritty ... let's just agree ... humor is when you pick a story or a situation and exaggerate it to the extremes of absurdity. Agree?

Now ... let's apply this to A and B enjoying maa ben

later got to

[JaiSpeaks]

profanity lies in the ears of the listener..:D

waah what a way to sum it up ...

[milanfanabhi]

Only in India (or south Asian subcontinent) there is a curse word for sister....for example, do you ever hear Sister Fucker?...but Mother Fucker is pretty rampant...and yet only in India there is Rakshabandhan and Bhai Duuj for brother-sister affection:D
the raksha bandhan and bhau duuj show the pure relation and centiments between bro and sis...and gaalis on sister are meant to provocate people..coz in india..sister is often considered as imp as mother..dont you watch hindi films..where after death of maa sister brings up her chota bhai like a mother??

gaalis are actually intended to hurt someone..bhench#$ is also meant to hurt...gaali galoch for fun..idk...depends on your body language when you give the gaali..

[zyzzva]

some content edited --> IF you cannot speak without abuses, thats fine, but you dont have to demonstrate your oratory skills here!-- sunit

Who so ever doesn't reciprocates the same way or minds , I straightaway dub him a chootia not worth befriending - NOt at par with mywavelenth , mental level , so befriending him/her ( I indulge in gaali galoch equally with females) is my loss not his/her - As he/she is gonna gain all from this relationship and not me , so since it wont be a win win situation , the sooner this relationship ends the better it is .

ALso the most important , cussing is an art and not science , so every cusser isn't worth befriending .Cuss such that the reciever appreciates and begs for more and in that endeavour returns the same with double the momentum/charge .

Example - You can cuss Sexynaa just once like Ashdoc and Sexyna would feel disgusted/hurt , yet u can cuss Sexyna a la Narci , and he'll enjoy your cussing/cursing and take it as a shower of blessings/well wishes / compliments in disguise.

I am sorry to know that Tantric is still missing closeness , candour and camaraderie between bawdy buddies - Another Narci id ...huh !


More posts and more explainations - During Aunty Zyzzva;s Mayake trip 2

[raniraja]

Khushwant Singh, in his "Train to Pakistan" explained the meaning of the then prevalent extreme gaalis -
Saala : means "I will sleep with your sister"
Sasura : means "I will sleep with your daughter".

Of course, these are the mildest of gaalis nowadays, frequently used by females, in media, movies and even by public figures publicly.

I guess Ma*****od and Bhen***d are evolution of these gaalis.

[zyzzva]

Tantric , believe me there are things which are beyond the spectrum of a boorish prudish old man :p

It has got nothing to do with growing in slums or palaces .It's got nothing to do with education either nor with parental upbringing .It's something closely analogous to - Machli kay bachchay ko koi tairna nahin sikhaata.

I know it might be a difficult to admit or understand and more difficult to accept - IT has got everything to do with age :p .

Thats probably one of the several reasons why i consider old age to be a disease , but a curable and noncontagious disease.

If it helps you in a better understanding of things let me you tell you a few facts from my personal life.I personally know a few Indians who are stinkingly rich , are counted amongst the richest Indians in India , they have had the best education , upbringing which you and I can only dream of providing to our kids , they do not know how slums look like , but one of them is a high school ( not educated like you , who claim to be less educated amongst us ) , yet they all indulge in Maa Behan bhosRa kholo bakchodhis.Some of them are old like you , but still disease free .Had I known you personally I wouldnt have hesitated to tell you their names .


In a nutshell - There is a difference in doing bakwas and doing bakchodhi and it can only be unfortunate if some khoosat observer dubs bakchodhi amongst friends as some disease of uncouth youth .In such a case diseased are that observer's mind and not of our uncouth youth .

So chill , relax and narrate to us one of your recent hallucinations about your savaa inchee appearing as a pandrah inchee:D

We haven't heard from you about in a while .Big time .....eh

[Rakhi]

Wah Wah Zyzzva, aap to bahut achi Angrezi bolte ho aur kehte ho ki aap ko angrezi bolna nahin aati?

[zyzzva]

Raakhi kabhi kabhi Sprite meri log in id se post maar deta hai , meri koi bahut baRi majboori hai ki mai usko apna password denay pay majboor hoon :( , lekin iska mutlab yeh nahin hai ki maine angrezi seekhne ki apni koshish choR dee hai :(

[DeeMan]

Can someone here please explain to me concept of humor in maa ben gaali galoch and its implied applications? I am sorry but you will need to speak on my level cause I didn't grow up in slums nor associate with drunks nor as educated as you guys.

So you are saying that gali galoch is directly related to one being from slums or being a drunk. Not sure what exactly you are trying to get to here.

I dont read too much into it. Now mayI ask you something..Have you every said the F word in front of any one

[echarcha]

All I know from my limited and narrow experience of running echarcha.com is that some folks sometimes have a bad day and they vent it out here. Thats normal as we do it in real life too with friends.

However, some folks get very sensitive and think that every word written here is the gospel truth. Then some feel that just because so and so said such and such, then the whole forum is out to get them or dislikes them. This is all temporary and will pass.

Using dirty language, abusive words, gaali galoch once in a while, maybe one reply or post, is all acceptable as this too happens in real life. But to continue on and on and cause real hurt to the parties involved is not acceptable, atleast not here.

And I want to make it very very clear - I know some of you socialise via other sites like facebook, yahoo, orkut, hotmail, etc. All of you should realise that an online id should remain just that - an online id. Do not get involved in real life with any online id. Your online id is your online persona. If you cannot take abuses then dont abuse someone. If you cannot take someone's popularity then dont sulk - this is not some popularity contest here on echarcha.

Also think that here you come, make friends online and then someday you start fighting and abusing. Is this right? An occassional burst of anger, abuses, sulking is all fine. But to continue for many many posts and replies of a thread?? :down: That really sucks and is not what I would like here. You are free to use other sites to continue your brawls online. Spare me the server space and general sour taste caused by your antics.

Some members here are old timers like sprite, some are new like ashdoc, some are visiting faculty here like marvelous. Everyone has a different take on things and has different levels of sensitivity. Though I keep repeating that log off your emotions before logging in to echarcha, I know that sometimes its not easy. But you can always remind yourself that you are just an online id. So let go of your ego and sensitivities, enjoy the fun here and have a nice day.

We all come here to while away our time which we could have spent elsewhere. How many times I have to lecture that use this site as your moment of leisure, as your place to unwind and not create brawls and melodrama.

Chalo, I have spoken enough on this topic and have read and replied to too many PMs over this.

I hope all concerned will understand and move on with being members here who come here to have fun, share and get back some relaxation in return.

Thanks folks.
Sunit

[chitrala]

Okay ... but still done in humor ... isn't it?

Okay ... fine ... so as to not get in to nitty gritty ... let's just agree ... humor is when you pick a story or a situation and exaggerate it to the extremes of absurdity. Agree?

Now ... let's apply this to A and B enjoying maa ben

later got to

To paraphrase Freud, the first person to hurl abuse in lieu of stone was the unsung inventor of civilization.

This might not be a humor thing only... it could be a habit, spoken without realizing the potential harm the words can do... Here in US 'Yo Mama" jokes are very popular... question is how would you know who is saying it in humour and who is abusing you... I think here comes the comfort factor... most of the maa-behan speakers use it for their friends or foes and rarely at strangers...

Maa adjective is the supreme insult.... if you can take the supreme insult from someone in jest that means is that person is either very close to you or a lunatic.

Men behave differently than women with good friends... thats what I was telling Rani that men dont give jhappi-puppies... If you see girls...they would go like so sugary sweety miss-you, look-at-you hugging/kissing etc. while men often give backslap with a saale or kameene...even when men hug each other it is bear hug..

Men find it hard to show emotions.... slap works for both anger and love.. and so do gaalis...

[krantikari]

Machli kay bachchay ko koi tairna nahin sikhaata.


I think I understand you very clearly here. It is just in their blood. These folks who openly badmouth womenfolks are the ones whose parents/grandparents dwell in slums and hence the lack of culture is visible in their blood.... so these people don't have to learn their lingo.... its there in their blood.


In a nutshell - There is a difference in doing bakwas and doing bakchodhi and it can only be unfortunate if some khoosat observer dubs bakchodhi amongst friends as some disease of uncouth youth .In such a case diseased are that observer's mind and not of our uncouth youth .


I feel sorry for you for not having the company of the young folks who are cultured and who know how to respect ladies. You have already concluded that the uncouth behavior is a sign of being modern.

[tantric_yogi]

edited ... post was addressed to Loveybhai.

[tantric_yogi]

Bhailog ... I fully understand the implications of maa ben gaali galoz between two strangers fighting on a street corner ... daily event all over the world.

This thread is more to do with my lack of understanding of Indian system where hurling abuses at each others family members brings two men close together into forming a long lasting and close bond of friendship. This I don't understand.

[echarcha]

Wah Wah Zyzzva, aap to bahut achi Angrezi bolte ho aur kehte ho ki aap ko angrezi bolna nahin aati?

Raakhi kabhi kabhi Sprite meri log in id se post maar deta hai , meri koi bahut baRi majboori hai ki mai usko apna password denay pay majboor hoon :( , lekin iska mutlab yeh nahin hai ki maine angrezi seekhne ki apni koshish choR dee hai :(

Oh so you two sprite and zyvaa share your username and passwords? I really dont want to know why, but I dont understand the games you guys are upto by sharing your username passwords, etc.

On your points about using abuses and gaali galoch, I have already said that once in a while you do use such language amongst friends. But then its for that moment and life moves on. Many times some old friend meets me and after a little conversation we might say 'Arey woh bh... kidhar hain? Dikha nahin bahut saalo se?' but thats about it.

Yes, according to your defintion of rich, young and modern people, me and my friends are very old and dumb to not indulge in such language apart from an ocassional burst into some colorful language.

No, I dont understand your concept of using abuses and badwords, especially in company of ladies around - whether my own family ladies or my friends. And no I would not want to learn it also, so spare me the long lecture.

About the other thread where things were down to such a gutter level, I was really pissed. Pissed because some of you folks think that writing on echarcha is like some holy writing and life revolves around what folks write here. I pity all those who think like that. We are all here just for some good times and company of some good like minded folks. But some folks dont get it. Well, I wont be pissed again. After all, some folks choose to indulge in this kind of stuff and who am I to educate or stop them?

All old timers here know me via my online id. Some of them have met me in person and have communicated over email or phone. However, I have never let my online persona come in the way of any extraneous communications I have had with anyone here; and never will. This policy has kept me free of any worries, egos, alter egos, whims, fancies and moods of folks. I prefer it that way. Zyvaaa, I hope you know why I prefer not to indulge in any communications with you. Whenever we have communicated I have made it very blunt that please dont talk about website because I am Sunit and you are Abhishekh who happen to know each other via this website and we are talking so leave out echarcha.com from our conversation. This has been my policy which has kept me and other members sane around here.

There were some members in the past who insisted on bringing up the website in every communication and then I dropped my communication with them. I am sorry but I have a life the moment I log off from this site. I love this site like my own home, but there is a limit to everything.

The reason for me to write such long posts and repeat all over again is because I am not happy with the way things happened on that other thread. I hope all of you concerned are mature enough to never let it happen again. I have no objections if you are 'modern, rich, young' as per today's standards, but just make do with an 'old, archaic, not rich' admin. Thanks.

[tantric_yogi]

edited ... post was addressed to Lovey and Sprite.

[tantric_yogi]

Request admin and mods to please close this thread.