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Indian
September 12th, 2001, 12:08 AM
Please spend some extra time in moderating & censoring posts for a couple of days during this phase of 'Terrorist attacks in US'.
I have seen some inflamatory posts here today by some of echarcha members, which may hurt feelings of fellow echarchans.

Thanks in Advance.

gandu
September 12th, 2001, 12:43 AM
Feel free to PM me with any thing you find offensive. I'll be around for a while.

tantric_yogi
September 12th, 2001, 01:26 AM
Indian I think all appreciate your concern and suggestion.

If possible then may be for next few days some posters be identified and banned from posting their rubbish. Just for few days.

We have so many good eCharchans who are proud Americans. Civil most eCharchans are but it still will take time to get over this human tragedy. Right now entire civil world is mad with anger that evil could strike at so many innocents with so ease.

:(

yrpude
September 15th, 2001, 02:07 AM
Originally posted by tantric_yogi
Indian I think all appreciate your concern and suggestion.

If possible then may be for next few days some posters be identified and banned from posting their rubbish. Just for few days.

We have so many good eCharchans who are proud Americans. Civil most eCharchans are but it still will take time to get over this human tragedy. Right now entire civil world is mad with anger that evil could strike at so many innocents with so ease.

:(
Dear Sutradhar and Moderators(Parikshaks)

Any thing we write about this isuue what happend on 11th sept is really bad. it should never had happened.But now to analyse why it happened? The answer is a bitter truth
what Americans have done to rest of other world including India. If we write the truth and if you do not like it you will definately delete it. But the truth always prevails{SATYAMEVA_JAYATE}. So any thing we write will sound like inflamatory and Sutradhar will delete it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The truth is that Americans were never on our side in the bad times.They always protected Pakis for their own advantage. Now they will realise for this.
Jai Hind; Jai mata di.
Good Bye

September 15th, 2001, 03:58 AM
Originally posted by yrpude
The truth is that Americans were never on our side in the bad times.They always protected Pakis for their own advantage. Now they will realise for this.
Jai Hind; Jai mata di.
Good Bye

... but India never preferred to pay back to them. You cannot forget how much India has received from USA in terms of food aid and the loans that were forgiven which could have kept India their economic slave for generations.

In return, USA did not get any support from India ever, in its fight to keep democracy and capitalism alive. Indira Gandhi preferred to side with the Soviets even after receiving so much in gratuity from the US. She issued statements agaisnt the US involvement in Vietnam and Korea. When Nixon needed help to start the China dialogue, India refused and Pak seized it like an opportunity to get close to US.

During the Gulf war, India sided with Saddam Hussain with VP Singh sending Gujral to give him the embrace which may have won him plenty of muslim votes but cost India dearly. It was not before Chandrashekhar took office that India allowed the UN planes to refuel in Bombay. India never sent a soldier to fight against Iraq, because Indian polititians are more Islamic than the Islamic states. Pakistan, even after opposition from its people did not withdraw even a single soldier.

Finally India has a government who is looking up to the US as an ally and a partner but the people in India will oppose them.

tantric_yogi
September 15th, 2001, 04:35 AM
Originally posted by yrpude
>>>Any thing we write about this isuue what happend on 11th sept is really bad. it should never had happened. But now to analyse why it happened? <<<

After saying It should have never happened and now you also wana analyze why it happened? Don't get it. It should not happen anywhere in the world. STOP.

>>>The answer is a bitter truth. what Americans have done to rest of other world including India.<<<

Pude everyone looks after their own arse. That is what US or everyone else does. There have been instances where US has fallen out with closest of their friends if it involved their personal interest. For instances protecting US farm exports. What are you objecting to?

>>> If we write the truth and if you do not like it you will definately delete it. But the truth always prevails<<<

Truth prevails? BULL. Pudeji truth is painful. It hurts me to tell you the truth and hurts you to hear it. The truth is our motherland is most unfortunate to have KAYARS and NAMAKHARAMS as its leaders who are their to take care of their personal needs. Pude you want me go and wash my mouth for uttering such offensive words?

>>>So any thing we write will sound like inflamatory and Sutradhar will delete it!!!<<

Pude, take my word for I am nobody here, I have not noticed any deleted posts. Have you?

>>>The truth is that Americans were never on our side in the bad times.They always protected Pakis for their own advantage. <<<

PUDE YOU WRITE:THE TRUTH IS THAT THEY (AMERICANS) ALWAYS PROTECTED PAKIS FOR THEIR OWN ADVANTAGE. Please explain what is wrong with that?

>>>Now they will realise for this.<<<

Pude you just dont get it, do you? Pakistan has assured full co-operation. Why? Pakistan is smart enough to know which side their bread is being buttered! I am not that intelligent and neither as educated as you so please explain what you are objecting to?

> >>Jai Hind; Jai mata di.<<<
Yes my good friend JAI HIND :) :) .

>>Good Bye<<<
Good bye???? what ya saying goodbye for?

Pretty Woman
September 15th, 2001, 07:14 AM
Indian:

So you and some others can't take the heat on net sometime.

Some people would say things against India, and emotional patriots would not like to hear that.

Some people would say things against a person... and their bhaiyyas and langotiya yaars would bot like to see it.

Some people would express their criticisms against the admin and moderators, and admin and moderators don't like to see that.

So the solution is to delete anything which might hurt the sentiments??

Make it a place where everyone just do "haan mein haan" with each other.

On Echarcha the situation is.... If one is friend, he is not supposed to oppose the ideas of another "friend". Friends are supposed to write posts which support other friends point of views.

Where is the spirit of discussion and putting forward one's thoughts without such fears??

I would say, grow up. Learn to deal with things which might not always go your way. If you can't handle contrary ideas on net, how would you handle them in real life... where no moderators would be around to censor or delete.

GpeL
September 15th, 2001, 07:32 AM
PW aap ko kyaa ho gaya? Moderators do not delete views as you are claiming. We only delete personal attacks on people and ofcourse foul language. Feel free to express your views but keep your language in control (slander and foul language are deleted).

Fei
September 15th, 2001, 07:53 AM
Originally posted by eNRI


... but India never preferred to pay back to them. You cannot forget how much India has received from USA in terms of food aid and the loans that were forgiven which could have kept India their economic slave for generations.

In return, USA did not get any support from India ever, in its fight to keep democracy and capitalism alive. Indira Gandhi preferred to side with the Soviets even after receiving so much in gratuity from the US. She issued statements agaisnt the US involvement in Vietnam and Korea. When Nixon needed help to start the China dialogue, India refused and Pak seized it like an opportunity to get close to US.

During the Gulf war, India sided with Saddam Hussain with VP Singh sending Gujral to give him the embrace which may have won him plenty of muslim votes but cost India dearly. It was not before Chandrashekhar took office that India allowed the UN planes to refuel in Bombay. India never sent a soldier to fight against Iraq, because Indian polititians are more Islamic than the Islamic states. Pakistan, even after opposition from its people did not withdraw even a single soldier.

Finally India has a government who is looking up to the US as an ally and a partner but the people in India will oppose them.

uh huh..yea..but when India tests a nuclear weapon they put stupid sanctions on India because of nuclear threat?? and when USA tests one and has like 1000's of nuclear weapon that doesn't matter? USA just wants to be the most powerful country in the world and doesn't want anyone else to top them...so they put stupid sanctions which hurt the nations economy and their people...they do watever they want with they goddamn policies...they think they can control the whole damn world..and India has always sided with Russia..just because USA became the superpower doesn't mean that we have to lick USA's ass like you

Xandu
September 15th, 2001, 08:01 AM
Originally posted by Fei


uh huh..yea..but when India tests a nuclear weapon they put stupid sanctions on India because of nuclear threat?? and when USA tests one and has like 1000's of nuclear weapon that doesn't matter? USA just wants to be the most powerful country in the world and doesn't want anyone else to top them...so they put stupid sanctions which hurt the nations economy and their people...they do watever they want with they goddamn policies...they think they can control the whole damn world..and India has always sided with Russia..just because USA became the superpower doesn't mean that we have to lick USA's ass like you

Fei,

you are wasting your breath arguing with eNRI (dumb fool). he lacks some skills in logic and judgement. so let the moron mumble his lines.

you picked that username from 'that thing you do' ??

X

Fei
September 15th, 2001, 08:11 AM
Originally posted by Xandu


Fei,

you are wasting your breath arguing with eNRI (dumb fool). he lacks some skills in logic and judgement. so let the moron mumble his lines.

you picked that username from 'that thing you do' ??

X

yea i guess i am

Pretty Woman
September 15th, 2001, 08:23 AM
>> PW aap ko kyaa ho gaya? Moderators do not delete views as you are claiming. We only delete personal attacks on people and ofcourse foul language. <<

GpeL... my thread recently was deleted but i hadn't used foul language or personal attacks. I posted a separate thread abt it.

GpeL
September 15th, 2001, 08:26 AM
Pw, kabhi kabhi galti se mistake ho jaata hai.. but seriously, I did not delete it.. sunit has already said he did not.. other moderators also said they did not.. koi bug hai to pataa nahi.. what was the thread about?

Pretty Woman
September 15th, 2001, 09:30 AM
thread was about moderators/admin locking threads, deleting them, random censoring or giving out alternate identities of posters...

ironic that it itself should be deleted, come to think of it :D

aryaputra
September 15th, 2001, 09:33 AM
Originally posted by eNRI

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Finally India has a government who is looking up to the US as an ally and a partner but the people in India will oppose them.


wrong assumption.........

echarcha
September 15th, 2001, 11:05 AM
Many of you say that India screwed up in the past.

Mind you at that time Sovite Russia was also a superpower and so was USA. The Soviet system of politics and Marxism was working.

India had just been under the terrible tyranny of East India Company - the Brits - who came here under the guise of trading and free enterprise. The lessons we learnt from this 'free enterprise' were very sacry and we were not willing to get into another capitalistic form of society at that time. Even if it proved wrong in the long run I would not immediatley put all the blame on India of then.

Today its a much different scene. India has become quite self sufficient and has seen the effects of socialism and has understood that open markets and athriving economy is what the world is all about. It is the way to progress.

Now about the recent attakcs.

When Kargil happened, I know for a fact that every Indian - whether Sikh, Hindu, Muslim, Christian, Buddhist, anyone.. - stood up in nationalistic pride and supported India all the way!!

Even today, the common man - specially the common Muslim - knows that all this jeehad is bull shit... Some misguided hot heads will alwys be there in India, but overal the majority of Muslims will support India in helping USA against Osama. They know that because if Osama style government came into India, these very Msulims who enjoy a just and better life in India will be thrown back into dark ages.

Look at the Indian Muslim - he/she is successful and allowed to do many things that they could nt dream of in a country like Afghanistan or Saudi or any where else in the Middle East. We have some of our top filsm stars who are Muslim, also our artists.

Do you think Zakir Hussain likes the Osama brand of Islam which wont allwo him to play his tabla???

So dont make wrong assumptions about Muslims in India.. some stray elements are present - even in Hindus like the bajrang Dal - but that does not mean that the whole basket of apples is rotten.

Its upto us as a people to root out the rotten apples.

Xandu
September 15th, 2001, 10:46 PM
Originally posted by Pretty Woman
thread was about moderators/admin locking threads, deleting them, random censoring or giving out alternate identities of posters...

ironic that it itself should be deleted, come to think of it :D

you are pretty headstrong arent you?? :)

relax about that thread... :cool:

Mr Idiot
September 16th, 2001, 03:59 AM
Originally posted by Xandu


relax about that thread... :cool:

Make her a mod n she'll relax ;) :p

tantric_yogi
September 16th, 2001, 02:18 PM
Originally posted by Pretty Woman
thread was about moderators/admin locking threads, deleting them, random censoring or giving out alternate identities of posters...
random censoring ... giving out alternate identities ... locking threads ...
PW what you talking about ? I m ignorant and unknowledgeable ... please explain why are you so sensitive

Indian
September 16th, 2001, 11:27 PM
Originally posted by Pretty Woman
Indian:

So you and some others can't take the heat on net sometime.

Some people would say things against India, and emotional patriots would not like to hear that.

Some people would say things against a person... and their bhaiyyas and langotiya yaars would bot like to see it.


my purpose of posting this request was to tone down the voice of HATE CONTENT posted on echarcha...and you CUTE BUTTON dont get it :(

As u know ..US is attacked by some suspected Islamic Militants ..some people here were getting tready to bash religions. So Ms. SMART WHIP ..do you think ?? we should allow this kind of posts and turn echarcha into one more dalitstan.org or an official web site of Shiva Sena or a SIMI propaganda site ?

Think for a while ..before you write some nonsense here.

and "meri haan mein haan karne ki jaroorat naheen hain" :D