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max de Indiana
December 16th, 2008, 07:41 PM
मजहब बदलो, या फिर देश

अमृतसर, जागरण संवाददाता। मुंबई आतंकी हमले के बाद भारत-पाकिस्तान के बीच संबंधों में आई 'खटास' का 'कहर' पाक में रहने वाले हिंदू परिवारों पर टूटने लगा है। पिछले कुछ दिनों में हिंदू परिवारों की महिलाओं से दुष्कर्म एवं उनकी दुकानें व घरों को लूटा गया। उन्हें मजबूर किया जा रहा है कि या तो वह मजहब बदल लें या फिर देश। हिंदू परिवार वहां से पलायन करके यहां आ रहे हैं।
http://in.jagran.yahoo.com/news/national/general/5_1_5076361.html
सोमवार को समझौता एक्सप्रेस से आए दो हिंदू परिवारों ने अपनी दुखभरी कहानी मीडिया को बताई। वहां से आने वालों में खन्या देवी [50] मुकेश [30], शोभा [28], शिवानी [4], वीर [2], सुरेश कुमार [25], कविता [23], साइना [7], शिवराज [4] व विसाखा [3] शामिल हैं। सिंध प्रांत से भारत पहुंचे दोनों परिवारों ने कहा कि वह किसी कीमत पर पाकिस्तान नहीं जाना चाहते। अगर भारत सरकार ने उन्हें यहां पर रहने की इजाजत नहीं दी तो वे पूरे परिवार के साथ ट्रेन से कटकर जान दे देंगे। हिंदू परिवारों का कहना है कि पाक में वही हाल दोहराया जा रहा है जो बंटवारे के दौरान हुआ था। वहां के जमींदार व पुलिस खुद यह घिनौना खेल खेलने में लगी है।

उन्होंने कहा कि पाकिस्तान में अब हिंदू परिवारों का रहना मुश्किल हो गया है। बहू-बेटियों से दुष्कर्म किया जा रहा है। बच्चों को अगवा करके फिरौती मांगी जा रही है। वहां के हुक्मरान का यही सवाल है कि या तो मजहब बदल लो या फिर देश। उन्होंने बताया कि 45 दिन का वीजा उन्हें मिला है, लेकिन वह भारतीय हुकूमत से भारत में शरण देने की गुजारिश करेंगे। इन लोगों का कहना है कि ऐसे करीब 35 हिंदू परिवार हैं जो कि भारत आने के लिए पाकिस्तान स्थित भारतीय दूतावास के चक्कर लगा रहे हैं।

अब चार चक्र की सुरक्षा से गुजरना होगा

भारत-पाकिस्तान के बीच बनते-बिगड़ते हालातों को लेकर समझौता एक्सप्रेस में मुसाफिरों की गिनती कम हुई है। साथ ही पाकिस्तान से आने वाले मुसाफिरों की जांच के लिए स्पेशल टीमों का गठन किया गया है। हरेक मुसाफिरों को चार बार सुरक्षा कवच से गुजरने के बाद क्लीन चिट दी जा रही है। खुफिया विभाग की माने तो समझौता एक्सप्रेस भी आतंकियों के निशाने पर है। इसलिए सुरक्षा और पुख्ता कर दी गई है।

echarcha
December 16th, 2008, 11:11 PM
Max bhai .. Please I request you to put a English title and then Hindi title so that it shows up properly on the main page.

as for the topics - What are those morons doing in Pakistan so many years after 1947?? Leave Pakistan and come to India or migrate elsewhere.

marvelous
December 16th, 2008, 11:47 PM
Why only one family got a gripe among thousands families?? what about others?? more than 500,000 hindu families and arround 2,500,000 hindus residing over there.. we should ask advani to shed light on the matter:o

max de Indiana
December 17th, 2008, 04:13 AM
I think..India must allow all hindu's from pakiland to migrate to India,,,

we can't allow them to suffer there:mad:

Honest
December 17th, 2008, 04:26 AM
I think..India must allow all hindu's from pakiland to migrate to India,,,

we can't allow them to suffer there:mad:

Very Very Correct. :up:

Randheer
December 17th, 2008, 04:38 AM
I think..India must allow all hindu's from pakiland to migrate to India,,,

we can't allow them to suffer there:mad:

Migration should be allowed with equal number of migration from India, along with Anurdhati Roy,Rajdeep Sardesai,Burkha Dutt,Pranav Roy's clan,Laloo,Mulayam and all Communists :)

echarcha
December 17th, 2008, 07:30 AM
I still wonder what was so wonderful about Pakistan that the ancestors of these families decided to stay despite the atrocities of Pakistan on Hindus during 1947 partitiion?

landyaBhai
December 17th, 2008, 07:46 AM
I still wonder what was so wonderful about Pakistan that the ancestors of these families decided to stay despite the atrocities of Pakistan on Hindus during 1947 partitiion?

Paisa ... Investment ... Real Estate ... Zameendaari ...

take your pick cha pai ...

"Sabse Bada Rupaiiyaa ..."

BTW max, I personally dont like these sort of threads that you start ... and that too in the name of religion ... the last person who did that was Suhasini pai and the one before was the angry young echarchan (I dont remember his username)

Next time, I will club all your gripes and groans into a separate thread ... you can post there ...

krantikari
December 17th, 2008, 08:35 AM
Migration should be allowed with equal number of migration from India, along with Anurdhati Roy,Rajdeep Sardesai,Burkha Dutt,Pranav Roy's clan,Laloo,Mulayam and all Communists :)

Dont forget Karan Thapar

krantikari
December 17th, 2008, 08:37 AM
Why only one family got a gripe among thousands families?? what about others?? more than 500,000 hindu families and arround 2,500,000 hindus residing over there.. we should ask advani to shed light on the matter:o

There we go, we have our own Anatullue on eCharcha.

Randheer
December 17th, 2008, 08:50 AM
Why only one family got a gripe among thousands families?? what about others?? more than 500,000 hindu families and arround 2,500,000 hindus residing over there.. we should ask advani to shed light on the matter:o

That is problem with Hindus and that too with Pseudosecular ones. You are feeling Delighted that 5 lakh families are still there i.e a reduction from 20% to 2%. Compare this to how many families you have in India since 1947 thriving and happy. Hindus take pride in others and particularly Islamic countries token secularism to justify their own over dosage of secularism. :)

Move on with it till it is too late :)

max de Indiana
December 17th, 2008, 05:45 PM
along with Anurdhati Roy,Rajdeep Sardesai,Burkha Dutt,Pranav Roy's clan,Laloo,Mulayam and all Communists :)

agree... these traitors should be kicked out from India..:mad:

max de Indiana
December 17th, 2008, 05:47 PM
I still wonder what was so wonderful about Pakistan that the ancestors of these families decided to stay despite the atrocities of Pakistan on Hindus during 1947 partitiion?

may be they had no opportunity to migrate India....may be no money etc...
otherwise who want live with such dirts like pakis's

DesiBaba
December 17th, 2008, 05:51 PM
I still wonder what was so wonderful about Pakistan that the ancestors of these families decided to stay despite the atrocities of Pakistan on Hindus during 1947 partitiion?

aah..this is what the thread is all 'bout?

here max, here's mah answer :

http://www.echarcha.com/forum/showpost.php?p=295329&postcount=15

chitrala
December 17th, 2008, 05:59 PM
aah..this is what the thread is all 'bout?

here max, here's mah answer :

http://www.echarcha.com/forum/showpost.php?p=295329&postcount=15
Well....wasnt Outlook supposed to be anti-hindu, pro-muslim magazine.....how come it ran a cover story against muslim atrocities:confused:.....
Krantikari pai...you forgot to add Vinod Mehta, Rajinder Puri, Tavleen Singh, Tarun Tejpal, Prem Shankar Jha..:rolleyes:...

I dont think that bringing all those hindus in India is a good idea...you never know how many terrorists can infiltrate in guise....These people are traumatised children of the biggest divorce of history....you can not help them...they are at mercy of pakistani govt.

sgars
February 16th, 2013, 11:07 AM
Paisa ... Investment ... Real Estate ... Zameendaari ...

take your pick cha pai ...

"Sabse Bada Rupaiiyaa ..."

...


may be they had no opportunity to migrate India....may be no money etc...
otherwise who want live with such dirts like pakis's

Seems to be a combination of both. There apparently were some rich guys left in Karachi (Danish Kaneria / Anil Dalpat are their descendants). Else many are Dalits who Jinnah was trying to woo separately. JN Mandal (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jogendra_Nath_Mandal) was one who was with Jinnah.


Ran into this as a similar thread to 'Change in Perspectives'