Jan Gan Man.....

[AmthaLal]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_XjPcgBk7LI

I am not sure its been posted or not, but Nice one.:jaihind:

[HarHarMahaDev]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_XjPcgBk7LI

I am not sure its been posted or not, but Nice one.:jaihind:

amazing one amtha.....

here is another good one: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UcSYCB7mcIo

[King]

Just curious -- wonder why hindhi speaking folks like to remove the "a" at the end of words. I know that in sanskrit by default the short 'a' is added to all words unless you have the halanth dash.

Isn't it JanA GanA ManA ? jan Gan Man sound funny. Similarly I have heard some friends of mine always say Kannad for kannada and stuff like that ...


Sorry for digressing from the thread.

[AmthaLal]

amazing one amtha.....

here is another good one: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UcSYCB7mcIo



Dude,
I have that whole Govind Damodar Album on mp3 and I Listen it on cd in my car every day in the morning.
Although this live one is better.:clap: :clap:

But still the whole album is just awesome.

If anybody wants, I got two more nice ones.
Shree Krishna Anurag Vol I and Vol II.

[sarv_shaktimaan]

Just curious -- wonder why hindhi [see you have done it here too] speaking folks like to remove the "a" at the end of words. I know that in sanskrit by default the short 'a' is added to all words unless you have the halanth dash.

Isn't it JanA GanA ManA ? jan Gan Man sound funny. Similarly I have heard some friends of mine always say Kannad for kannada and stuff like that ...

Sorry for digressing from the thread.
u feel so becoz southies put an extra "a" everywhere... like Rama, Vyasa and also 'h' everywhere... Maruthi... etc...

marathi speaking folks pronounce Amrit as Amrut... the moment someone pronounces it like that i can bet on my life he/she is marathi speaking...

[chitrala]

yuh Shakti, even I have noticed that.... once on a tv show a not so good looking girl said that her name was "Krupa" (Kripa).. it sounded like "kurupa"... and I thaught for once that her parents must have got some sense of humour.

[pakkidost]

marathi speaking folks pronounce Amrit as Amrut... the moment someone pronounces it like that i can bet on my life he/she is marathi speaking...

It actually is AMRUT.

Logic: Ru as in Rushi dosent come after badi e in hindi it comes after bada oo
If it was intended to be pronounced as ri it would have come after badi e in swar mala.

See simple logic no...

[sarv_shaktimaan]

It actually is AMRUT.

Logic: Ru as in Rushi dosent come after badi e in hindi it comes after bada oo
If it was intended to be pronounced as ri it would have come after badi e in vyanjan mala.

See simple logic no...
as if everything is pronounced the way it is written... my point is that only marathi speaking people pronounce it that way... just sumthing i observed... i'm not saying if it correct or not...

I dont know anybody who spells their name as Rushikesh or Amruta... ???? why not??? i wonder... if ur theory be deemed correct...

[chitrala]

Pakki Tai... you are wrong.... "Ri" in "Rishi (or Rushi)" is not made up from "Sandhi" of "R" varna and "ee" varna but "Ri" is a swar varna itseld.
The basic swar varnas (vowels) in hindi alphabet are
"A', "Ee" "Uu" "Ri" "Lri".
"Ri" is rarely used now and use of "Lri' is almost obsolete.
other vowels are formed out of these basic vowels.
e.g.: a+a= Aa
a+ee= ae
a+uu= au etc.
"Ri" that comes in "Rishi" and "Rizu" and is pronounced "Ri" only.
Shakti, Hindi is a phonetic language... so almost every word is pronounced the way it is written without exception (no silent letters here).

[ShivSainik]

Dude,
I have that whole Govind Damodar Album on mp3 and I Listen it on cd in my car every day in the morning.
Although this live one is better.:clap: :clap:

But still the whole album is just awesome.

If anybody wants, I got two more nice ones.
Shree Krishna Anurag Vol I and Vol II.

Sala neki aur puch puch :D

Could you send me Govind Damodar by mail ? Atleast some part of it if divided in multiple mp3s.

[Alibaba]

Awesome.. Beautiful clip! Loved it.. it really instills a feeling of patriotism in you! A R Rehman is great!

[sarv_shaktimaan]

Shakti, Hindi is a phonetic language... so almost every word is pronounced the way it is written without exception (no silent letters here).
what i meant was that in common speaking language things are different... :D

[King]

u feel so becoz southies put an extra "a" everywhere... like Rama, Vyasa and also 'h' everywhere... Maruthi... etc...

marathi speaking folks pronounce Amrit as Amrut... the moment someone pronounces it like that i can bet on my life he/she is marathi speaking...

Forget about Southies .. I am talking about Sanskrit...Sanskrit has Rama, Vyasa etc ... Hindhi is derived from Sanskrit and I would expect it to be the same ....

[sarv_shaktimaan]

Forget about Southies .. I am talking about Sanskrit...Sanskrit has Rama, Vyasa etc ... Hindhi is derived from Sanskrit and I would expect it to be the same ....
अबे गधे its हिन्दी not हिन्धी (hindhi)... and Sanskrit has Ram, Vyas... राम, व्यास... i donno wat kinda sanskrit u use... in devanagari there's no 'a' at the end... ask anybody...

[AmthaLal]

Sala neki aur puch puch :D

Could you send me Govind Damodar by mail ? Atleast some part of it if divided in multiple mp3s.



Forget mail.
If you have YM or Gmail IM, lemme know and login to that. Will transfer the whole file in a snap.;) Its a big file and dividing might corrupt the sound quality.;)

[ShivSainik]

Forget mail.
If you have YM or Gmail IM, lemme know and login to that. Will transfer the whole file in a snap.;) Its a big file and dividing might corrupt the sound quality.;)

will do that on week-end. Baki PM pe.

[dhurandhar]

अबे गधे its हिन्दी not हिन्धी (hindhi)... and Sanskrit has Ram, Vyas... राम, व्यास... i donno wat kinda sanskrit u use... in devanagari there's no 'a' at the end... ask anybody...

Vyasa is correct transliteration, but it is correctly pronounced as:

Vya-sa (where sa is to be pronounced the same way as the last alphabet in व्यास, but as if it were pronounced as a separate alphabet)

However, contemporary Hindi or any Sanskrit based language does not follow this pronunciation anymore:D

[28virgo]

अबे गधे its हिन्दी not हिन्धी (hindhi)... and Sanskrit has Ram, Vyas... राम, व्यास... i donno wat kinda sanskrit u use... in devanagari there's no 'a' at the end... ask anybody...

Waise Shakti pai, Marathi also uses the devanagri script :D ..

But jokes apart, Being a Marathi born and brought up in Delhi, I agree with you wholeheartedly. Maharashtrians do pronounce some Hindi words differently and when told or corrected about the right hindi pronunciation, dont like it one bit.. :D

[King]

अबे गधे its हिन्दी not हिन्धी (hindhi)... and Sanskrit has Ram, Vyas... राम, व्यास... i donno wat kinda sanskrit u use... in devanagari there's no 'a' at the end... ask anybody...


Hey Ass.... Hindhi is actually how it is pronounced .. and I don't know what tpye of sanskrit you learnt... but the words you have written is Rama (not aaa, but surely not Ram) and Vyasa .. It is Ram and Vyas only if there is the halanth .. in case you don't know, this is the tail at the bottem end of the last letter. ...You don't haveto ask anybody .. I know .

[sarv_shaktimaan]

Hey Ass.... Hindhi is actually how it is pronounced .. and I don't know what tpye of sanskrit you learnt... but the words you have written is Rama (not aaa, but surely not Ram) and Vyasa .. It is Ram and Vyas only if there is the halanth .. in case you don't know, this is the tail at the bottem end of the last letter. ...You don't haveto ask anybody .. I know .
so that means ur religion is Hindhu... i dont know about u buddy but let me state for the record here... I am a Hindu and I speak Hindi... dont know where u come from and why u r bringing frikkin sanskrit into Hindi... who speaks sanskrit first of all?... only on doordarshan news... that too for half an hour every week on sunday...

[28virgo]

Yaar tum log Ass/gadhe ko itna inferior janwar mat samjho.. It's the symbol of the Democratic Party here in the US... :D

[DesiBaba]

virgo, yeh puranaa puraan hai southi-northi ka :rotfl: sadiyon se chalta aa raha hai :p

[sarv_shaktimaan]

virgo, yeh puranaa puraan hai southi-northi ka :rotfl: sadiyon se chalta aa raha hai :p
yeah may be it is... but I dont need anybody (esp. not a southie) to tell me how to write or speak or gimme a lecture about Hindi...

Hindhi...:rotfl: thats L-A-M-E... lame... frikkin funny too... :rotfl:

[King]

so that means ur religion is Hindhu... i dont know about u buddy but let me state for the record here... I am a Hindu and I speak Hindi... dont know where u come from and why u r bringing frikkin sanskrit into Hindi... who speaks sanskrit first of all?... only on doordarshan news... that too for half an hour every week on sunday...

Ok let me answer this without the beligerence you display. I realize the spelling is Hindi and this is the accepted - infact I had made a typo ... in the reply I was saying was that Hindhi should have been the actual spelling. "d" alone in english usually denote the sound as in "Dude".. not dh .

Also I don't see any constructive argument here .. I don't know why this pisses you off ... I think Hindi is a language derived from Sanskrit and hence this question arose about what I thought was a intriguing difference .. in fact I was just wondering if this is because of some persian influence or something like that.

[King]

yeah may be it is... but I dont need anybody (esp. not a southie) to tell me how to write or speak or gimme a lecture about Hindi...

Hindhi...:rotfl: thats L-A-M-E... lame... frikkin funny too... :rotfl:

What actually is funny is the hatred/dislike/fear/whatever you have for Southies ...

[sarv_shaktimaan]

Also I don't see any constructive argument here .. I don't know why this pisses you off ... I think Hindi is a language derived from Sanskrit and hence this question arose about what I thought was a intriguing difference .. in fact I was just wondering if this is because of some persian influence or something like that.
I found your first post in the thread irksome where u said hindi speaking folks dont know english(atleast thats wat it seemed u meant)... well its the prerogative of a person how he/she spells his name... also, in Hindi things are pronounced differently than Kannada/Tamil/Telugu/Marathi/Punjabi... so it might be amrut in marathi but the correct way in hindi is amrit... in Hindi Ram is Ram... there is no halant at the end but its still not pronounced nor written as Rama... [is this constructive enuf... in any case, read the reply from Chitrala below]

I never hold back at anything... so if I'm angry i let it out... also I dont hate anybody... have lotsa Southie friends... but if u attack on northie southie issue u will get it back from me in equal measure... check echarcha history to assure urself of this fact...

[chitrala]

Hey Ass.... Hindhi is actually how it is pronounced .. and I don't know what tpye of sanskrit you learnt... but the words you have written is Rama (not aaa, but surely not Ram) and Vyasa .. It is Ram and Vyas only if there is the halanth .. in case you don't know, this is the tail at the bottem end of the last letter. ...You don't haveto ask anybody .. I know .
In sanskrit normally a name is followed by a visarg ?????? ( : ).... ???? (prononunced Ramuh) but never Rama.... when halant is attached it is pronounced ???? (Rama`.. last syllable pronounced as half "a" or "schwa") which is often confused with ???? (Rama).
South Indians attach "H" in the end of letter "d" and "t" while pronouncing soft "t"(? ) or soft "d"(?) but it becomes "Tha" (?) and "Dha" (?) for northies and sounds amusing. Basically it is limitation of roman script which uses only 26 letters against more than 52 letters of Hindi (if you count Rudha varnas).
King Bhai... no one is denying that hindi originated from sanskrit but it is the matter of pronunciation.... south indians have a tendency to stretch the last syllable a bit "rhymically"... Like Biharis/Upiites elongates middle and last syllable in sing along manner. Thats where confusion arises and due to our provincial superiority complex we refuse to believe that we are mispronouncing/misspelling.

Where is Tantu jee.... Bhaya bring out your "Sundar Balak Varnamala" and put an end to this discussion:D.


EDIT: : Sutradhar jee, My hindi fonts are not showing...:confused:... yeh mere northie hone ke karan hai ya phir because I'm using MacOSX. :confused:

Addition: Now I remember "Rama" is an altogether different word which would mean lots of Rams ( atleast more than two.) people who have studied Sanskrit in school would remember that the "Ram" becomes "Rama" plural number first form; It goes like :
Ramuh.... Ramau.... Ramah.

I guess this much is sufficient King Pai.

[sarv_shaktimaan]

EDIT: : Sutradhar jee, My hindi fonts are not showing...:confused:... yeh mere northie hone ke karan hai ya phir because I'm using MacOSX. :confused:
dude go to uninagari.com (http://uninagari.kaulonline.com/) and copy paste what u write in hindi there...:up: very easy...

[rameshp]

I never hold back at anything... so if I'm angry i let it out... also I dont hate anybody... have lotsa Southie friends... but if u attack on northie southie issue u will get it back from me in equal measure... check echarcha history to assure urself of this fact...
I knew this thing is gonna blow into north-south fight!:D:p

Cool it guys. North-South argument concludes nothing except that Maharashtrians come into the argument to say that they belong to west, not north India!:p

(the thread shall slowly derail into arguing whether Maharashtra is north or west!:p:D)

[King]

I found your first post in the thread irksome where u said hindi speaking folks dont know english(atleast thats wat it seemed u meant)... well its the prerogative of a person how he/she spells his name... also, in Hindi things are pronounced differently than Kannada/Tamil/Telugu/Marathi/Punjabi... so it might be amrut in marathi but the correct way in hindi is amrit... in Hindi Ram is Ram... there is no halant at the end but its still not pronounced nor written as Rama... [is this constructive enuf... in any case, read the reply from Chitrala below]

I never hold back at anything... so if I'm angry i let it out... also I dont hate anybody... have lotsa Southie friends... but if u attack on northie southie issue u will get it back from me in equal measure... check echarcha history to assure urself of this fact...

I read and re-read my first post and I fail to see in any way how what is written could be construed to mean that Hindi speaking folks do not know English... There was no attack on Northie-Southie issue .. in fact I did not even mention Northie/Southie till you brought it up....

I don't have to check echarcha's history... I think I am one of the oldest existing members of echarcha... Anyway that's beside the point.

The point is that you do not have to take every statement as a Northie attack .. and yes I too have strong feeling of certain Northie-Southie topics and I too can give back .. but I would prefer to argue this in terms of facts and points rather ... nothing comes of being unnecessarily aggressive...

Thanks Chitrala for the information provided.

[sarv_shaktimaan]

Just curious -- wonder why hindhi speaking folks (arent hindi speaking folks Northies???) like to remove the "a" at the end of words. (I have a similar argument... why do non-Hindi, non-Gujarati, Non-Marathi, non-Bengali, non-Punjabi speaking people add 'a' and 'h' arbitrarily) I know that in sanskrit by default the short 'a' is added to all words unless you have the halanth dash.

Isn't it JanA GanA ManA ? jan Gan Man sound funny. (and it sounds funny to me that non-hindi speaking folks exaggerate the sounds in many words and make it JanA GanA ManA) Similarly I have heard some friends of mine always say Kannad for kannada and stuff like that...

Sorry for digressing from the thread. (its u who started derailing the topic... and u r supposed to be among the seniormost members... :D )
I realize the spelling is Hindi and this is the accepted - infact I had made a typo (how can it be a typo??? look at ur keyboard d and h are not neighbor keys)
My guess is that most of the hindi written in english is guided by how film makers spelled the movie names... Ram Lakhan, Ram teri Ganga Maili, Anurag, etc... Spanish, French, etc have special alphabets to ensure phonetics... Some Hindi transliterated texts use a phonetic guided font (for example see the Swami Prabhupada image... notice that theres an 'a' with a bar over it in Prabhupada and Sadhana to denote double a (aa) sound )... We should have a system to convey our languages' right sounds in English by slight alteration of the english font... constructive idea right... :D wat d'ya say?...

Do u know that a society studied, held meetings, discussions and refined French language's words... so every word and its spelling is very well defined...