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viking
September 28th, 2006, 11:24 PM
Afzal's mercy petition: Azad appeals to PM

http://www.ndtv.com/images/topstories/Apmohammadafzal1.jpg

Kangress resorts to Gandhigiri

Friday, September 29, 2006 (Srinagar):


Jammu and Kashmir Chief Minister Ghulam Nabi Azad has appealed to Prime Minister Manmohan Singh for sympathetic consideration of Mohammad Afzal's mercy petition.

Afzal has been convicted in the 2001 Parliament attack case and is to be hanged on October 20.

However, according to sources, the mercy petition procedure may delay hanging.

Political parties in Kashmir have called for a bandh on Friday to protest the Supreme Court verdict.

Parties fear that if Afzal is hanged, it will create civil disorder in the Kashmir valley.
http://www.ndtv.com/template/template.asp?template=Parliamentattack&slug=Afzal%27s+mercy+petition%3A+Azad+appeals+to+PM&id=20381&callid=0&category=National

viking
September 29th, 2006, 12:09 AM
Afzal death penalty sparks hijack alert
By: Kashif Khusro
September 29, 2006
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The Union Ministry of Home Affairs (MHA) has warned of a possible hijack attempt to save the life of Jaesh-e-Muhammad (JeM) militant Mohammad Afzal, sentenced to death for his role in the attack on the Parliament in 2001.

The alert, issued on Wednesday night, says JeM may attempt to hijack an aircraft from an Indian airport, particularly Delhi or Mumbai, and then ask for the release of Afzal in exchange.

JeM chief Maulana Masood Azhar was freed in a similar manner in 1999, when IC814 was hijacked and taken to Kandahar. Azhar and two others were released in lieu of the passengers.

“The alert came after violent protests in Kashmir and the MHA realised that JeM had done it before and was quite capable of doing again for their man,” said a top Central Industrial Security Force (CISF) official, responsible for the security of the airports.

The MHA has briefed top CISF officials on phone on Wednesday night that they were expecting a hijack attempt and a written order was on its way, sources said.

“The hijack could be on any day before October 20 (the day Afzal is sent to the gallows) and because of the impending festival season the alert assumes more significance,” said the official.

The anti-hijacking unit has been put on high alert; the number of plainclothes officers deployed in and around airports from the Crime Intelligence Wing of the CISF has increased; passenger access to air terminals has been tightened and manual frisking during check-in has been made more vigilant.

A court in Delhi on Tuesday issued death warrant for Afzal, which sparked violent clashes between the police and protestors in Srinagar on Wednesday.

Afzal will file a clemency appeal with President APJ Abdul Kalam and plead innocence.

CISF Mumbai Airport Senior Commandant Sanjay Prakash confirmed the hijack alert notice and said security at the airport has been beefed up.

http://www.mid-day.com/news/city/2006/september/144342.htm

deshpremi
September 29th, 2006, 02:43 AM
Yaar hamari sarkar bahut chootiya hai. Even when the Kandahar hijacking thing was going on, I said they should give these bastards a slow acting poison like arsenic or some such shit and then release them in exchange for the hostages. Sala 5-7 din baad mar jata zehar se Masood Azhar. I dont know why the dumb fukks in our government could not think of such a simple solution.

Sane Less
September 29th, 2006, 06:26 AM
Yaar hamari sarkar bahut chootiya hai. Even when the Kandahar hijacking thing was going on, I said they should give these bastards a slow acting poison like arsenic or some such shit and then release them in exchange for the hostages. Sala 5-7 din baad mar jata zehar se Masood Azhar. I dont know why the dumb fukks in our government could not think of such a simple solution.

I was going to suggest just shooting them on the spot. As soon as a plane is hijacked, whatever requests they have... just squash them. If they want to release someone, shoot him/her dead. What's the worst that will happen... a plane load of dead people:confused: ... but remember that will be the last plane load of dead people... no more... as they will realize that this technique no longer works.

But yeah, your idea jells too, Desparamhansan pai:up:

krishna
September 29th, 2006, 06:32 AM
The bigger issue here is that India is a soft target. We have no real policy for dealing with terrorism or terrorists. It is common knowledge that India will negotiate with terrorists, so, in fact, terrorism in India works. Want a killer released? Hijack a plane! Want the execution of a convicted killer over turned, just threaten violence.
Hundreds of Indians are killed in blasts in Mumbai, temples are blown up, Parlaiment attacked, pilgrims attacked and what does the government do? Abso-fucking-lutely nothing. We buy lots of new toys for our Air Force and Army and Navy, but what use is it? Only good for the Republic Day Parade!

viking
September 29th, 2006, 06:36 AM
The bigger issue here is that India is a soft target. We have no real policy for dealing with terrorism or terrorists. It is common knowledge that India will negotiate with terrorists, so, in fact, terrorism in India works. Want a killer released? Hijack a plane! Want the execution of a convicted killer over turned, just threaten violence.
Hundreds of Indians are killed in blasts in Mumbai, temples are blown up, Parlaiment attacked, pilgrims attacked and what does the government do? Abso-fucking-lutely nothing. We buy lots of new toys for our Air Force and Army and Navy, but what use is it? Only good for the Republic Day Parade!

Yes but then Kangress is promoting gandhigiri by making Lage raho Munna bhai tax free! Is it not something. Secularism has now raised it's bald and ugly head. Lookout for more rock and roll in the next few years.

As we type the secular population of India is multiplying like that of rats.

Cooldude
September 29th, 2006, 08:51 AM
The attack on the Parliament was an audacious & a well planned suicidal mission. If the government pardons the guilty, it would prove the country to be having a bunch of impotent & spineless clowns at the helm of its affairs.

This time atleast, there should be no cowing down to these pleas, protests & threats of civil disorder. No mercy for the guilty. Hang them all & their supporters too if required.

Sane Less
September 29th, 2006, 09:14 AM
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This time atleast, there should be no cowing down to these pleas, protests & threats of civil disorder. No mercy for the guilty. Hang them all & their supporters too if required.

Are you saying hang all 200 million of them:confused: No problem, I'm with you all the way... string them up:D

RBJ
September 29th, 2006, 11:51 AM
I was going to suggest just shooting them on the spot. As soon as a plane is hijacked, whatever requests they have... just squash them. If they want to release someone, shoot him/her dead. What's the worst that will happen... a plane load of dead people:confused: ... but remember that will be the last plane load of dead people... no more... as they will realize that this technique no longer works.

But yeah, your idea jells too, Desparamhansan pai:up:
Sane Less pai.. you are right in way but how can you forget the families of those who are travelling in the plane ? and those human rights.. and blah blah blah. I think government has to think about that as well. right ?

deshpremi is right. we should give them some sort of slow poison that would work later.

RBJ
September 29th, 2006, 11:54 AM
We shouldnt even wait till October 20th. Kill that foking bastord right now.:shoot:

Sane Less
September 29th, 2006, 11:55 AM
Sane Less pai.. you are right in way but how can you forget the families of those who are travelling in the plane ? and those human rights.. and blah blah blah. I think government has to think about that as well. right ?

deshpremi is right. we should give them some sort of slow poison that would work later.

With due credit to the government or not, we already have a few thousands dying everyday. How does it matter with another 300 hundred or so:confused: There will be a huge hue and cry and then everything will be forgetten by the masses. But the terrorists will have gotten their lesson... never will a Indian plane be hijacked again.

viking
September 29th, 2006, 08:18 PM
I think the Kangress is very smart and shrewed to have realised that ALL Muslims in India without exception are terrorists at heart. All Muslims in India sympathaise with these Islamic terrorists, so hanging Afzal might have a very bad effect on their Muslim vote bank. Therefore Kangress seems to have decided to throw in it's weight behind Afzal.

I won't be surprised if Mohammad Afzal is 'elected to parliament' on a Kangress ticket. The very same parliament which was attacked.

Secularism ki jai. Gandhiji ki jai!:up:

Napolean
September 29th, 2006, 08:26 PM
How can anyone even think of supporting this guy?If this is happening to save vote bank,can't get any worse than this.

viking
September 29th, 2006, 08:41 PM
Afzal case: BJP flays J&K CM's mercy plea

September 30, 2006 00:51 IST

Jammu and Kashmir Chief Minister Ghulam Nabi Azad's plea for clemency for Mohammed Afzal, who is set to hang on October 20 for the terror strike on Parliament, has snowballed into a major political controversy with the Bharatiya Janata Party seeking to pin down the Centre on the national security issue and the Congress seeking to distance itself from Azad's view.

The BJP said Azad's action shows that ruling Congress was "not serious" about fighting terror.

"Looking at the demands made by Ghulam Nabi Azad and the Congress, it becomes clear that the Congress is not serious about fighting terrorism," BJP chief Rajnath Singh told reporters.

He also slammed the Left for seeking a review of the death sentence awarded to Afzal.

"This shows, both of them (the Congress and the Left) treat the issue very lightly," the BJP leader remarked.

Earlier, party spokesman Ravi Shankar Prasad demanded the Congress-led United Progressive Alliance government clear its stand on demands for pardon to the Parliament attack convict.

"The apex court has awarded this punishment (to Afzal) after a three-tier judicial scrutiny. The exercise of power of pardon lies with the government. We would like to know what the government has to say about it," he said.

BJP vice-president Mukhtar Abbas Naqvi condemned the mercy calls for Afzal saying "such voices show that the Congress and its supporters have a soft approach towards terrorists and separatists."

Congress said it neither endorsed nor rejected Azad's stand and skirted queries regarding whether the chief minister had "erred" in writing to the prime minister on the issue.

http://www.rediff.com/news/2006/sep/30parl.htm

Napolean
September 29th, 2006, 08:47 PM
Congress should be renamed as MotherF***ers party...I guess this is the limit now.Anyone who supports them is anti India.

Napolean
September 30th, 2006, 01:56 PM
It seems Kasmiri people want Afzal to be pardoned.I wonder why.

viking
October 1st, 2006, 06:43 AM
'Clemency to Afzal a disgrace'
[ 1 Oct, 2006 1041hrs ISTPTI ]



NEW DELHI: Amid growing demands for clemency for Mohammed Afzal Guru, facing execution for his role in the 2001 attack on Parliament, the kin of security personnel killed in the terrorist strike say they feel "cheated" by those seeking a pardon for him.

Sunder Singh Patel, the son of Delhi Police head constable Ghanshayam Patel, who lost his life said "after seeing the support from human rights and political groups for a terrorist, we feel cheated. This is not what my father laid down his life for."

A shocked Awdesh Kumar, whose wife Kamlesh Kumari, a CRPF constable, was killed in the attack, said "he (Guru) was involved in the attack of Parliament. His role was established and the trial took place from a lower court to the Supreme Court. Now why all of a sudden, the human rights groups and political parties have started raising their voice?"

Kamlesh was awarded Ashok Chakra, the highest civilian award for bravery.

"I can't believe it when I see and read that even political parties and Jammu and Kashmir Chief Minister Ghulam Nabi Azad have been favouring clemency for Guru," Kumar said.

He said that he felt proud that he was the husband of Kamlesh, but if clemency is granted, "I will regret that she wasted her life."

The 42-year-old Kumar, who has been raising his two daughters, Jyoti and Shweta, after Kamlesh was killed by militants on December 13, 2001, also wondered why so many human rights groups were seeking clemency for Guru.

"I simply wonder where they were when my wife was killed, leaving a daughter in my lap...crying," said an emotional Kumar, adding "today Mehbooba Mufti, a partner with Congress, is siding with him. I want to know did she ever bother about my daughter who became an indirect victim of the terrorists."

Somvati Devi, the widow of Patel who was awarded the Kirti Chakra, the second highest civilian award for bravery, said any move to grant clemency to Guru or convert his death sentence would be an insult to all the security personnel who laid down their lives for the nation.
Her elder son Bachhu Singh, said "he (Guru) should be hanged publicly so that it would act as a deterrent to all those who want to harm my country."

Kamlesh and Patel were among the nine persons who died while protecting the Parliament from the audacious attack of militants.

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/articleshow/2057225.cms

echarcha
October 1st, 2006, 08:35 PM
What these poor relatives of the dead hero police personnel dont understand is that the killer is a Muslim. And Muslims have a license to kill Hindus at will and get away with it.

All political parties are trying to appease Muslims all the time.

Indian Hindus will next face extinction when Pakistan sends in dirty nuclear suitcases and explodes them in all cities and towns. At that time too the Congress will welcome the move and blame Hindus. Once all Hindus are dead, the Congress will invite Muslims from all over the world to inhabit our land.

I might sound like a moron saying these things, but ask a true blue Congressman to be real honest and he might paint a much more horrible scenario for Hindus than I did.

sarv_shaktimaan
October 7th, 2006, 11:00 AM
i kinda like this by BJP :D

AmthaLal
October 7th, 2006, 12:37 PM
i kinda like this by BJP :D


Kyaa yaar, ek bhi achhi nahi hai dikhne mai.:D :D

desidude
October 7th, 2006, 02:20 PM
This was bound to happen.. why bother now ?

Its the fault of DE-MOB-CRACY... all we ever get are puked up vermin savages ruling over everyone.

If this is not the time for a MERITOCRATIC aka FASCIST revolution, I dont think India will survive much longer.

Politicians pimping out the nation to terrorists.. its worse than how France bowed down to Nazis.

The illiterate MOBS will keep voting for these turds due to that biatch Sonia and due to the general COMMUNIST propaganda and lies.

The only recourse is to put an end to this trend forever.. to wipe out politicians and always have meritorious people rule over the country.

viking
October 7th, 2006, 09:52 PM
Afzal was ex-IB informer
By: M K Tayal
October 8, 2006
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From left to right: Afzal Guru, Geelani and Shaukat
FILE PIC
Mohammad Afzal Guru, sentenced to death for conspiring to blow up the Parliament House, was previously an Intelligence Bureau (IB) informer who double-crossed the agency, allegedly leading to the brutal killing of an IB official by terrorists in Jammu and Kashmir.

Lifting the veil of secrecy from Afzal’s intriguing past — while a debate rages on the fate of the man condemned to death — intelligence sources here told Sunday MiD DAY that the Jaish-e-Mohammad terrorist had worked for the IB after surrendering to the Border Security Force in 1998.

The IB deployed him, as it selected surrendered militants, to gather information regarding the movements of terrorists in the Valley, their hideouts and training camps. Sources said that in return, Afzal was duly compensated.

Soon the IB realised that Afzal’s information was poor and never led to the arrest of any terrorist by the Army and other security agencies. Their suspicions that Afzal was double crossing them were confirmed in late 1999 when he gave a piece of wrong information, based on which an IB officer went undercover for the recce of a terrorist hideout.

Sources say that Afzal allegedly then passed the information about the identity of the IB official to the terrorists as well. The militants caught the IB official and allegedly brutally murdered him by mutilating his private parts and hanging him publicly in a village near Srinagar.

The incident sent out shock waves in the IB as the movement of the killed official was only known to Afzal and a senior official in the agency. A special team went after Afzal, who thereafter went underground and could not be traced, the sources said.

After the 2001 attack on Parliament, the full extent of Afzal’s involvement in terrorist activities was clearly established, the sources said.

Prof S R Geelani (right), Yasin Malik (centre), Sajjad Lone(left) with Ghalib, Afzal Guru’s son, sitting on a dharna in support of Afzal, organised by the Society for the Protection of Detainees’ and Prisoners’ Rights, at Jantar Mantar in New Delhi on Wednesday..
The cell phone records of the five terrorists, who were killed in the attack, showed that they were in constant touch with Afzal and Prof S A R Geelani.

Investigating agencies found that Afzal was the main lead, who was coordinating with Ghazi Baba, Masood Aazhar and Tariq Ahmed and the five Pakistani terrorists who were killed by the security personnel inside the Parliament.

He was tried and sentenced to death penalty by court of S N Dhingra, upheld by the High Court and the Supreme Court.

He was supposed to be hanged on October 20, 2006 at 6 am. But Afzal’s wife has filed a mercy petition with the President Dr A P J Abdul Kalam. The death sentence now cannot be executed till the time the President clears the punishment.

National movement to save Afzal Gandhigiri Zindabad

Meanwhile, human rights activists have launched a movement to free Afzal from the gallows. According to human rights lawyer N D Pancholi, a national movement has been launched to save Afzal and pressurise the government to change the death sentence to life imprisonment.

Society for the Protection of Detainees and Prisoners Rights (SPDPR) has launched a movement to get the death sentence converted to life imprisonment.

The SPDPR has brought out a booklet called Hanging Afzal Would be a Stigma on Indian Democracy, in which human rights lawyer Nandita Haskar writes, “The people of Kashmir have been pouring out in the streets to vent their anger, resentment and anguish not only against a death sentence but for them Mohammad Afzal is a symbol of Kashmiri people’s resistance to Indian state’s Kashmir policy.”

The lawyer warned, “Would it not be wise to learn from our past mistakes and understand that judicial murder and state revenge can never lead to justice or bring peace to the Kashmir valley or to our region?”

Rumours of Pak hijack

Afzal Guru’s wife Tabasum with her seven-year-old son Ghalib, with her mother-in-law and brother-in-law talking to the media in front of Tihar Jail on Tuesday
According to sources, Pakistani-based terrorists outfits have even decided to hijack a passenger aircraft to seek the release of Afzal Guru.

A nation-wide alert was sounded by the Home Ministry regarding the likely hijacking.

While smaller airports were the most likely targets of an hijacking point, sources said it could be also be planned from other countries where the militant organisations have an effective presence.
However, the government decided to pardon the dreaded terrorist to gain sympathy from a particular community.

The Congress party voiced its concern to Jammu and Kashmir chief minister Ghulam Nabi Azad. The chief minister initiated the move to save Afzal from the gallows, much to the shock of the nation.

The party did try to mitigate the damage, when Congress general secretary Digvijay Singh said no mercy should be shown to any terrorist. “The ruling party is sympathetic to Afzal and wants to change the death sentence,” said a senior home ministry official.

RAW hand

The government has assigned a former Research and Analysis Wing official with the task of getting a favourable response from the Hurriyat Conference and other Kashmiri groups.

The former spy would try and pacify the Hurriyat Conference and get a mild statement from the separatist organisation that could enable the government to tell the international community that it has given “peace another chance” by showing a forgiving Mahatma Gandhi-like attitude, a source added.

Meanwhile, the Union government has asked the Delhi government to give a studied response on the mercy petition filed by the Afzal’s wife, Tabasum.

The Union Ministry would also seek comments from the Law Ministry, after which the response would be sent to the President Dr A P J Abdul Kalam, according to a senior official of the Department of Justice.

However, according to sources, the President does not have to respond to the mercy petition before October 20, 2006 and keep the mercy petition pending. There are over a dozen mercy petitions already pending with the President.

Is he guilty?

Afzal in the Delhi High Court had submitted that he wanted to be killed by a lethal injection and would not like to be hanged, while admitting his involvement in the case. This statement, Afzal now says, was used without his consent.

Parliament attack co-accused S A R Geelani who runs SPDPR admitted the Afzal Guru is not saying he was innocent, but that the death sentence for providing logistical support to the terrorists who attacked the Parliament is not commensurate to his crime.

http://www.mid-day.com/news/nation/2006/october/144748.htm

aragorn
October 14th, 2006, 08:51 AM
Hang Afzal, and some crook may kill judges


New Delhi: The debate over whether or not Parliament attack convict Mohammad Afzal should be hanged continues. Former Jammu and Kashmir chief minister Farooq Abdullah has warned that if the death sentence is carried out – it could well have dangerous consequences.

Speaking exclusively to CNN-IBN’s Karan Thapar on Devil’s Advocate, Abdullah said: “We have paid the price of Maqbool Butt's hanging by the judge who was shot in Kashmir. Let me be very candid on this programme – those judges will need to be protected like anything.”

Abdullah has warned that some crook will come and murder the judges.

“Therefore my request in your programme is that for God's sake, see that they are protected. One. Secondly, I will tell you – this nation will go up in flames – because the terrorists will do such things that will destroy the relationships of the Hindus and the Muslims here,” he added.

Abdullah said that the hanging of Mohammed Afzal, convicted for the 2001 attack, would turn him into a "a hero" and provide "a massive weapon to the separatists".

Abdullah argued that if clemency was not shown to Afzal "you will be making him a hero for centuries to come". Afzal is due to hang October 20.

"He's a man who is least important at this time. Secondly, you are going to give a massive weapon to the separatists in Jammu and Kashmir. The separatists are (already) saying this is the way they (India) treat Kashmiris," Abdullah said.

Taking a rather contradictory statement, Abdullah first insisted that Afzal was "innocent", and later on went to assert that the conviction was correct but the punishment "extreme".

"The unfortunate problem is the lower court, which had given the sentence. If he Afzal had got the right lawyer at that stage I'm confident that his case would have been proved that he is not directly involved in this.

"He himself was never there in the Parliament House. The point is the evidence put forward by the police is not absolutely infallible."

Abdullah claimed that another consequence of hanging Afzal would be the damage to the India-Pakistan peace process.

The National Conference leader even feared that if Afzal is hanged the judges who convicted and sentenced him could be "murdered".

"This nation will go up in flames because the terrorists will do such things which will destroy the relationship between the Hindus and Muslims here. Kashmir will anyway go up in flames. There will be turmoil which India will have to face."

While voices of dissent have emerged from the Kashmir Valley – Chief Minister Ghulam Nabi Azad even reportedly approached Prime Minister Manmohan Singh seeking Afzal’s clemency – there have been hot protests in Delhi and elsewhere.

Afzal, convicted for aiding five terrorists who stormed the Parliament December 13, 2001, was sentenced to death by a trial court, and the Supreme Court had later upheld the verdict.

Source : IBNLIVE (http://www.ibnlive.com/news/hanging-afzal-will-make-him-a-hero-for-centuries/23963-3.html)

aragorn
October 14th, 2006, 08:56 AM
so now they have started to give threats to the judges also....well this is indirect threat.

srcmboys
February 3rd, 2007, 12:25 AM
Afjal congress ki politics ki life line hai.so congress apni goverment rahtay kabhi ussay faansi nahi honey degi.:mad:
agar afjal ko faansi ho gayegi tow fir congress kay pass aisa koi topic hi nahi bachega kyonki ed desh main muslim politics ka theka unhonay hi liya hai.

dhurandhar
February 3rd, 2007, 07:25 AM
Yaar hamari sarkar bahut chootiya hai. Even when the Kandahar hijacking thing was going on, I said they should give these bastards a slow acting poison like arsenic or some such shit and then release them in exchange for the hostages. Sala 5-7 din baad mar jata zehar se Masood Azhar. I dont know why the dumb fukks in our government could not think of such a simple solution.

Here is a smarter idea....govt should inject terrorists with a tracking device (like that for pets, but more advanced). Then, the govt should stage (or allow) an attack on jail and safely transport terrorists back to PoK or whereever.

Thereafter, the terrorists should be tracked with satellites and GPS, and when they are in their camps, a guided missile will kill not only the terrorists but their supporters and other budding terrorists as well.

Ironically, this is analogous to how COMBAT (Cockroach killing gel) works in principle. Cockroach eats the gel, and then goes to its lair, where other cockroach eat the dead cockroach who ate the gel. The gel then also kills other cockroaches in the lair:D

aragorn
February 6th, 2007, 07:54 AM
Nice Idea, but if Govt wanted to use the GPS and other technologies they will never do it on a person from holy minority comminity :D instead they will use it to settle score with opposition. :rolleyes: