fate of a Hindu

[Agastya]

A Hindu being beaten by Muslims in a mosque in Bangladesh. He was captured outside the mosque while going home. After Friday prayers were over, the Muslims came out and grabbed the first Hindu they could. Mr. Vimal Patak a Bangladeshi born Hindu was beaten to death with sticks as the Muslim mullahs (priests) chanted "kill the Kafir!" (non-Muslim). With folded hands he begged for his life and died a brutal death.

http://www.faithfreedom.org/Gallery/7.htm

[dawizard]

I don't quite agree with the story behind the picture....it's been published by a biased organization with a propoganda....it cud be anything in this story.....he cud very well be a muslim who looked at some woman behind the scenes....I do see some bengali in the background but there's no surity that this guy was killed, I am sure they wud have a pic of that...maybe not also....nevertheless....hindu's visit mosque's n all everywhere.....heard of Ajmer ki Dargah? Haji Ali?

[Agastya]

I don't quite agree with the story behind the picture....it's been published by a biased organization with a propoganda....it cud be anything in this story.....he cud very well be a muslim who looked at some woman behind the scenes....I do see some bengali in the background but there's no surity that this guy was killed, I am sure they wud have a pic of that...maybe not also....nevertheless....hindu's visit mosque's n all everywhere.....heard of Ajmer ki Dargah? Haji Ali?

The biased organistaion askes anybody to prove them wrong. Nobody has posted a diffrent explanation there. And in any case it's a picture where muslims are beating a man to death very openly. Given the exponantial decrease in number of Hindus in Bangladesh this seems to be very plausible.

[dawizard]

The biased organistaion askes anybody to prove them wrong. Nobody has posted a diffrent explanation there.

So the organization has no authenticity of its own info and depends on others to prove them wrong otherwise they are right. It may be a hindu there in the pic, it may be a christian, and like they say, they picked whichever hindu they cud catch and started whacking him, well thats strange, mosques are predominantly in muslim areas and where will the other hindu's run to if these guys just want to kill hindus?
Can u determine personally if this person is hindu or muslim from the picture? I can't....

[Agastya]

So the organization has no authenticity of its own info and depends on others to prove them wrong otherwise they are right. It may be a hindu there in the pic, it may be a christian, and like they say, they picked whichever hindu they cud catch and started whacking him, well thats strange, mosques are predominantly in muslim areas and where will the other hindu's run to if these guys just want to kill hindus?
Can u determine personally if this person is hindu or muslim from the picture? I can't....

Can't you see that he is a human being?Can't u determine that he being beaten to death in frot of a mosque which is somehwere in bengal?
Can't yu determine that he is being beaten by muslims and no muslim is saving him at all , he is alone , he is stranger in that place?
web site has given his name , what more way they can PROVE that they are right. They have stuck thier neck out publicly with this picture , Let somebody prove they are wrong.

[dawizard]

did i deny he's human and being beaten. Is it implied that muslims have compadreship and would run to protect their own one? Have you never read 'news' and not 'propoganda articles' like this of muslim head of families killing their own for their honor...so how can you say this guy is a hindu....so ur implying muslims only kill non-muslims and in bangladesh only hindus?

This website is a propoganda website and is there for all the sleaze its providing, have you ever recieved those chain letters which give out info out in public about xyz things, do people go and prove those chain letters wrong? No, it's not everyone's business to prove them wrong. There's a difference between journalism and hate propoganda. That's why CNN doesn't ask others to prove them wrong, they investigate and give the 'news' and not radical material and fictitious stories like this one.

You still can't determine this guy is hindu or not. Story behind this is unfortunately not verifiable. I refuse to believe it specially since the purpose of this site is only 1, hate propoganda, they can't give both sides of the story unfortunately.

[Cooldude]

Agastya jee, Propaganda websites galore on the net. There are so many Pak sponsored anti India propaganda websites depicting the so called brutality in Kashmir & the atrocities of Indian troops on Muslims there. All in all vilifying India.

If people globally begin to believe that too, our country wouldn’t be enjoying the world dignified status, it does today.

[Sane Less]

You still can't determine this guy is hindu or not. Story behind this is unfortunately not verifiable. I refuse to believe it specially since the purpose of this site is only 1, hate propoganda, they can't give both sides of the story unfortunately.

Dawi pai, I will not comment on the photograph itself, other than saying that I had seen this picture before it appeared on Ali Sina's website, in some news article (how biased I do not know/remember). This picture appeared on faithfreedom.org after some time.

What I would like to comment on is your statement that this web-site has only one purpose, hate propoganda. It looks like you have not been through this site... maybe it will be worth your time if you read some articles there, especially Ali Sina's. My own personal experience is that I used to hate people of peace but this web-site changed my attitude, and you will read a lot of comments like mine on this web-site and others. Now tell me, how is that called propagating hate? I am confused with your attitude:confused:

[dawizard]

Sane pai what else is the purpose of this website?

I'll just quote from the website

"About
Faith Freedom International

Islamic terrorism is inspired by Islamic teachings. We can never get rid of Islamic terrorism unless we defeat the ideology behind it and that is Islam itself. Islam induces hate backed by lies. Muhammad was a terrorist by his own admission. All Muslims, to the extent that they follow him, are terrorists. Those Muslims who are not terrorists are ignorant of Islam and are not good Muslims. Fortunately they are the majority. We need to rescue them. If you are a good human being, you are not a Muslim."

I don't see the site talking about humanity in other religions, it doesn't want to rescue ppl from RSS ? What abt the christian missionaries who try to convert ppl?

If you see their gallery it'll show and comment how each muslim kid is also a terrorist and does all kinds of freaky stuff. Had the same stuff been written and presented for Hindus also I would still call it a hate propoganda website. Hope that explain!

[Sane Less]

Sane pai what else is the purpose of this website?

I'll just quote from the website

"About
Faith Freedom International

Islamic terrorism is inspired by Islamic teachings. We can never get rid of Islamic terrorism unless we defeat the ideology behind it and that is Islam itself. Islam induces hate backed by lies. Muhammad was a terrorist by his own admission. All Muslims, to the extent that they follow him, are terrorists. Those Muslims who are not terrorists are ignorant of Islam and are not good Muslims. Fortunately they are the majority. We need to rescue them. If you are a good human being, you are not a Muslim."

I don't see the site talking about humanity in other religions, it doesn't want to rescue ppl from RSS ? What abt the christian missionaries who try to convert ppl?

If you see their gallery it'll show and comment how each muslim kid is also a terrorist and does all kinds of freaky stuff. Had the same stuff been written and presented for Hindus also I would still call it a hate propoganda website. Hope that explain!

So, along the same lines, Dawi pai, can I call you as a man filled with hatred? Because you are against this site and show total hatred for this site.

Why would a site built to generate information about oranges start putting information about lemons? Both are fruits and belong to the same or similar category but the site is not interested in lemons. Does it mean that this orange-introducing site is filled with hate? :confused: Does it mean that you will fight against it and sue it till the day that it puts pictures of lemons on its site?

faithfreedom.org is a site created and maintained to expose the faults of the religion of peace, why should it talk about other religions or even RSS? That is not its target or its goal.

Why would anybody want rescuing from RSS:confused: You crack me up here, Dawu pai :D :rotfl: I don't want to respond on this one as I do not want to embarass you :)

If the parents of a child dress him/her up as a terrorist, is it the fault of the photographer or the journalist? If an hindu dresses up his/her child as a rakshasa and glorifies that pose, who will you hate? The parents of the child or people who host such events on their website?

You ask what is the purpose of the website... could it be education? Could it be putting an ideology in the right perspective? Could it be making see people what is hatred and how to react to it? Could there be something really wrong with the religion of peace? something really wrong with MOP? Could it be that there is something really wrong with the people of peace? and that they can be rescued back into the fold of humanity?

How is it that people like Cha pai can predict events and they actually happen? Is he an astrologer? a wiseman? a seer? or is it because the people of peace are so brainwashed by the book of peace that they are predictable? :D :D :D

I wish there was similar stuff written about hindus... maybe someday I myself will create such a site (and only include stuff about and against hinduism and no other religion or group)... but for that to happen... the hindus will have to do a lot... a whole lot :D... they better get started :rotfl:

[dawizard]

I didn't say I have 'hatred against the site', I said I refuse to believe authenticity of the info posted originally by agatsya coz this is a propoganda website and it will publish anything that it feels right and only show 1 side of the store.

If you read the 'about' section of the website that should answer most of your questions here since it says it doesn't aim at faith but at hate. Quote from the website
"Faith Freedom stands for freedom of faith. We are against Hate, not Faith. We revere human rights not human beliefs. We endeavor to be factually correct, not politically correct. "

So if RSS induces hate then this website should be against them also along with several other organizations. But no, this site is focused only on muslims and islam

I am sure those who have suffered at the hands of RSS would have loved to be rescued from them, so that should take care of your embarrassing situations. I have no reason to insult your intelligence but you seem to be filled with hate yourself and its just human to be so.

Unfortunately your point that this site puts up ideology is incorrect. It doesn't educate about islam, it doesn't point out positives of the religion, it only brings out the religion in a negative light and giving testimonials of ppl who left islam.

The cheapest aspect of this lousy website is the existance of a page challenging 'proven wrong', the person obviously has all the time in the world to create subjective and objective arguements for whatever comes in the way. But I haven't seen any journalistic website begging for being proved wrong to say their information is correct lol, this is quite pathetic.

In short this site is a hate spreading site, my opinions are strongly against the authenticity of information provided on the website and I am not questioning Islam's virtues and its reality. Do you see the simple difference? It's really simple really, don't take it personally if u r close to the site :)

[tantric_yogi]

So if RSS induces hate then this website should be against them also along with several other organizations. But no, this site is focused only on muslims and islam I am sure those who have suffered at the hands of RSS would have loved to be rescued from them,

Wizzardbhai ... with all due respects. Not that I know much about RSS ... just what I read ... you may just be the authroity who can help us out.

RSS induces hate? You know or heard of nyone who have suffered at the hands of RSS? To the best of my knowledge ... RSS is a Hindu organisation which is very much nationalistic in nature and claims to have few Muslim members. Impression I been loed to belive is that RSS is not anti-Indian but anti anything which is anti-Indian. RSS is anti-Muslim ... is what you trying to make us believe?

I see four or five people with long beards, and in white robes beating up a man who appears bleeding and begging for mercy. I don't know what white robes signify in Islam ... can you tell us ... please?

My intentions are to gain knowledge of Islam.

Have you ever been to a Hindu temple or a Christian church? We leave those places with sermons like Karmas, kindness, love, peace and charity. Why is it that many of us have been given the impression that friday sermons delivered in Maszids are of not the same nature? Is it the media which has to be blamed? I have been to Durgah Chishtee in Ajmer and Baba Jaan in Pune ... but that is not the same as a regular friday prayer meeings in your Maszids ... is it?

You may be shocked to know ... our Hindu religion and Catholic church gives followers freedom to respect and visit places of worship even if they belong to other religions. Have you ever been to a Hindu temple or a Christian church? How did you feel?

edit: Thanks. With all due respecs and no offence intended. I requested you many moons ago to comeforth and enlighten us. I am so glad you are.

[brahmchari]

Babaji right on the mark. Bulls Eye. :up:

[echarcha]

I didn't say I have 'hatred against the site', I said I refuse to believe authenticity of the info posted originally by agatsya coz this is a propoganda website and it will publish anything that it feels right and only show 1 side of the store.

If you read the 'about' section of the website that should answer most of your questions here since it says it doesn't aim at faith but at hate. Quote from the website
"Faith Freedom stands for freedom of faith. We are against Hate, not Faith. We revere human rights not human beliefs. We endeavor to be factually correct, not politically correct. "

So if RSS induces hate then this website should be against them also along with several other organizations. But no, this site is focused only on muslims and islam

I am sure those who have suffered at the hands of RSS would have loved to be rescued from them, so that should take care of your embarrassing situations. I have no reason to insult your intelligence but you seem to be filled with hate yourself and its just human to be so.

Unfortunately your point that this site puts up ideology is incorrect. It doesn't educate about islam, it doesn't point out positives of the religion, it only brings out the religion in a negative light and giving testimonials of ppl who left islam.

The cheapest aspect of this lousy website is the existance of a page challenging 'proven wrong', the person obviously has all the time in the world to create subjective and objective arguements for whatever comes in the way. But I haven't seen any journalistic website begging for being proved wrong to say their information is correct lol, this is quite pathetic.

In short this site is a hate spreading site, my opinions are strongly against the authenticity of information provided on the website and I am not questioning Islam's virtues and its reality. Do you see the simple difference? It's really simple really, don't take it personally if u r close to the site :)


Oh RSS!! Ha ha ha ha... I am laughing because had RSS been able to even get a majority of people going today BJP would be in powere. RSS did that years ago with the Ram Mandir which is a Hindu right! BJP did the right thing and it won and things were great. Despite Mumbai bomb blasts, Hindus were upbeat.

However, BJP ditched the RSS and things went downhill. I also laugh at our post because there is no one to rescue from RSS. Had RSS been very effective, then there would be someone whom they might have directed 'hate as you put it' towards them.

Today, the only hope for seeing a Ram Mandir is the new BJP leadership which, I really hope, will work with RSS and VHP and others to build it.

AS to your question about this website by Ali Sinai.

Wizard - you may be a Muslim or maybe very sympathetic to them. Let me ask you some thing - When the Imam of Jama Masjid in Delhi gives sermon what does he say? Remember he had asked for revolt because US attacked Taliban in Afghanistan after 9/11? Remember, Shabana Azmi - another renowned actress and Muslim - had to shut that Imam's face??

If you go to a Hindu temple, the most likely sermon or chant you will hear is some pooja shlokas or some request for donations to repair the temple or some announcements about the upcoming festivals, poojas, etc.

I went to Catholic school and we had one the most beuatiful churches in India in our school campus. My parents did not object to me going to see what is inside the church when our teaches took us in. I know all the Christian prayers like 'Our father in Heaven.. Holy be thy Name' even till today along with Ganpati Aartis like 'Sukh karta Dukh Harta..'

Tell me, if you are a Muslim, does your faith or local mosque mullah allow you to visit a temple or church? Do you even know one line of the 'Our father' in heaven prayer?

Relax man.. you may be Muslim. Fine. Since you are with us so long, we know you are not the radical types. However, some things are the way they are. You know it and I know and we all know it.

[L8Again]

My parents did not object to me going to see what is inside the church when our teaches took us in. I know all the Christian prayers like 'Our father in Heaven.. Holy be thy Name' even till today along with Ganpati Aartis like 'Sukh karta Dukh Harta..'

Tell me, if you are a Muslim, does your faith or local mosque mullah allow you to visit a temple or church? Do you even know one line of the 'Our father' in heaven prayer?

Relax man.. you may be Muslim. Fine. Since you are with us so long, we know you are not the radical types. However, some things are the way they are. You know it and I know and we all know it.

You can visit wherever you want to.. but tell me this, if I tell you that 2+2=5, and then ask you to agree with me, or the very least agree to disagree.. will you do that? of course not, you are going to say - hey, I know 2+2=4 ... Similarly, if somebody doesn't know me and has never seen me, and then makes a statue of a cockroach in order to represent me, I would find that disrespectful.... So, if I find that disrespectful who is a nobody, I am sure God does too.....

[dawizard]

Wizzardbhai ... with all due respects. Not that I know much about RSS ... just what I read ... you may just be the authroity who can help us out.

I am no authority unfortunately tantuji


RSS induces hate? You know or heard of nyone who have suffered at the hands of RSS? To the best of my knowledge ... RSS is a Hindu organisation which is very much nationalistic in nature and claims to have few Muslim members. Impression I been loed to belive is that RSS is not anti-Indian but anti anything which is anti-Indian. RSS is anti-Muslim ... is what you trying to make us believe?

Please read my line again....I have given an example 'So If RSS induces hate', point being if any other religion has hate inducing activities this site doesn't give a schmuck abt that, although it claims its not against faith but against hatred, well it seems to be focused on a single faith to me. I've had this impression of RSS being a Hindu oriented society promoting hinduism, nationalism etc but it is one of their co-working foundations Bajrang Dal I believe who burned a christian missionary for whatever conversions they were doing....very unfortunate but true nonetheless and now the responsible person is waiting his death penalty. Anyways I don't want to go off on a tangent and confuse you any more than you already are :)



I see four or five people with long beards, and in white robes beating up a man who appears bleeding and begging for mercy. I don't know what white robes signify in Islam ... can you tell us ... please?

My intentions are to gain knowledge of Islam.

it is good you would like to learn a lot abt Islam. Unfortunately I don't have the quran memorized and interpreted completely to explain Islam to you, I would be in some madarasa now otherwise and not explaining things to you. As for the white robes, those are called clothes, not your regular routine jeans perhaps, something like dhotis to brahmins n all :D

Please do enlighten me if you see that person begging for mercy as one Hindu person pleading for mercy....I didn't unfortunately get the video or audio on this to hear him cry 'hey bhagwaaaaaaaan, mujhe bachaa lo' lol....so he could damn well be a christian, a jew, a muslim. Unfortunately looks are deceptive and if you think that 3 white robed ppl beating the crap out of 1 is not one of their kinds, please open your mind then. It could very well be a hindu as well, but point in my arguement from beginning has been this site's duty is to make things look negative against muslims and that's why they are bound to pinpoint that person as a non-muslim.



Have you ever been to a Hindu temple or a Christian church? We leave those places with sermons like Karmas, kindness, love, peace and charity. Why is it that many of us have been given the impression that friday sermons delivered in Maszids are of not the same nature? Is it the media which has to be blamed? I have been to Durgah Chishtee in Ajmer and Baba Jaan in Pune ... but that is not the same as a regular friday prayer meeings in your Maszids ... is it?

I probably wouldn't have been to as many temples as you (considering you are much elder to me :)) but yes I've been to Golden temple, Vaishno Devi, Siddhi vinayak etc. To know more about the friday suggestions I recommend you attending one :D That way we can see if ppl in white robes start beating you also or not and we can get first hand info!! What do you say? Will you pls try atleast?? Thanks...


You may be shocked to know ... our Hindu religion and Catholic church gives followers freedom to respect and visit places of worship even if they belong to other religions. Have you ever been to a Hindu temple or a Christian church? How did you feel?

Actually not shocked, I have good knowledge of Hinduism and Christianity. 2nd question is a repeat again, yes I've been to temples so I guess I crossed barriers too (temples don't belong to muslims right??) :D



edit: Thanks. With all due respecs and no offence intended. I requested you many moons ago to comeforth and enlighten us. I am so glad you are.

None taken and hope you feel the same way.....I still don't believe the facts on this site are true, that doesn't mean I am saying its false either. It's just a hate site and it is doing its purpose.

I hope the saffron army here starts realizing that I don't belong to a pro-muslim violent school of thought, I don't believe in the authenticity of this website, its as dubious as are its claims. And I repeat, I would have said the same had this been a anti-hindu or anti-christian website.

[dawizard]

Wizard - you may be a Muslim or maybe very sympathetic to them. Let me ask you some thing

Being sympathetic to muslims doesn't mean being sympathetic to radicals or terrorism or fanatacism. I am anti all of those above that I mentioned. I detest muslims doing that and there's no shame in accepting that. And I strongly feel even the case of Danish ppl that things need to be resolved in a proper manner, not just start burning embassies etc, thats bullshit and anyone who participates or tells to participate is someone I'll never believe in.

[echarcha]

Being sympathetic to muslims doesn't mean being sympathetic to radicals or terrorism or fanatacism. I am anti all of those above that I mentioned. I detest muslims doing that and there's no shame in accepting that. And I strongly feel even the case of Danish ppl that things need to be resolved in a proper manner, not just start burning embassies etc, thats bullshit and anyone who participates or tells to participate is someone I'll never believe in.

Bhaya I know your demeanour and hence I said that you are a fine man who has been here for some time now. Baba.. yeh topic endless hai re.. Today cartoons, tomorow something else.

[dawizard]

I know....I heard its spread over to Indonesia and Malaysia also....its like that incident when Ganesh ji started drinking milk, news spread like wildfire.....this is spreading globally...holy crap!!

[King]

You can visit wherever you want to.. but tell me this, if I tell you that 2+2=5, and then ask you to agree with me, or the very least agree to disagree.. will you do that? of course not, you are going to say - hey, I know 2+2=4 ... Similarly, if somebody doesn't know me and has never seen me, and then makes a statue of a cockroach in order to represent me, I would find that disrespectful.... So, if I find that disrespectful who is a nobody, I am sure God does too.....

A bit difficult to understand what you are getting at here. Maybe you should be a bit more clear for the sake of the dense people like me here.

If I was to take a guess at your drift, you seem to imply firstly that you can attend a temple, but now agree with the teachings there and secondly that you do not like idol worship.

If my assumption about the above is incorrect, please ignore the rest of this.

On both counts above, your examples are wrong. Regarding the teachings, nobody here for sure knows the correct answer. Someone else believes that 2 + 2 = 5 and you belive that 2 + 2 = 3. it could jolly well be that the other person is correct.

Secondly regarding the creation of idols, the reason for idol worship is pretty deep in hinduism. Even in other religions, they shun idol worship, but everyone needs some symbol to concentrate their prayers/devotion on. Every Hindu is supposed to move from the formed to the formless worship as his spiritual knowledge increases. And trying to swing the argument by using a cockroach example ???? ....

[28virgo]

A bit difficult to understand what you are getting at here. Maybe you should be a bit more clear for the sake of the dense people like me here.

If I was to take a guess at your drift, you seem to imply firstly that you can attend a temple, but now agree with the teachings there and secondly that you do not like idol worship.

If my assumption about the above is incorrect, please ignore the rest of this.

On both counts above, your examples are wrong. Regarding the teachings, nobody here for sure knows the correct answer. Someone else believes that 2 + 2 = 5 and you belive that 2 + 2 = 3. it could jolly well be that the other person is correct.

Secondly regarding the creation of idols, the reason for idol worship is pretty deep in hinduism. Even in other religions, they shun idol worship, but everyone needs some symbol to concentrate their prayers/devotion on. Every Hindu is supposed to move from the formed to the formless worship as his spiritual knowledge increases. And trying to swing the argument by using a cockroach example ???? ....


L8again seems to be hinting that since he already knows the answer, Your answer ,if it does not tally with his, is wrong.. Period..

Quite preposterous actually!!... I mean both the logic and the assumption!

[King]

L8again seems to be hinting that since he already knows the answer, Your answer ,if it does not tally with his, is wrong.. Period..

Quite preposterous actually!!... I mean both the logic and the assumption!

Exactly my point.

[Sane Less]

Being sympathetic to muslims doesn't mean being sympathetic to radicals or terrorism or fanatacism. I am anti all of those above that I mentioned. I detest muslims doing that and there's no shame in accepting that. And I strongly feel even the case of Danish ppl that things need to be resolved in a proper manner, not just start burning embassies etc, thats bullshit and anyone who participates or tells to participate is someone I'll never believe in.


Dawi pai, I respect you as a sensible man, and respect your feelings about men of peace going berserk but that does not mean that these men of peace are not doing the most perfect things of peace :) After all they got to follow what has been prescribed and sent from heavens of peace specifically for them :D

Believe me Dawi pai, before I hit Ali Sina's web-page, I travelled through a lot of web-pages about the religion of peace... both pro and anti... trying to understand it... see why it is the way it is... thinking it would just be the followers twisting a decent religion... there are lots of illogical anti-religion of peace web-sites... similar to that site called swordoftruth website (I am sure you know which one I am talking about). I found that Ali Sina's web-site does not belong to such silly categories. His observations seem based on logic and facts... there could be a few dramatic and rash statements, but then when you try explaining simple things to a wall, you often feel like breaking your head against it :)

I will abide by my earlier comment on your observations about RSS :)

Ab Late pai se kya argue karna... he has made 2 + 2 = 4 equivalent to god + cockroach :D exactly Late pai, 2 idhar or 2 udhar become god udhar and cockroach idhar... now start prostating before your friendly neighbourhood cockroach :D

:up: to Knigi pai's and Virgin pai's responses.

[dawizard]

point noted sainless pai...i think i have visited that sword website sometime earlier...

[Sane Less]

point noted sainless pai...i think i have visited that sword website sometime earlier...

okay, Dawi pai, but where do we stand? You say faithfreedom.org is all propaganda and purely against religion of peace. And I say that that is its purpose and it is going about its way logically and marvellously :D

Why do you cast doubts about the authenticity of the picture? doubts on the religion of the man being killed? doubts on the event itself? Why do you want to just limit your comments to the picture that Agrisy pai posted here? Have you read of other events created by people of peace, in Africa and in Indonesia and in Phillipines, that tend to corroborate this event? Would all these events be false and propaganda generated by people rabidly against the religion of peace?

[dawizard]

Yaar I am sitting right now not standing :rotfl:

I am doubting the "story behind the picture"....I can't determine the religion of a person just by looking at his bloodied picture and specially since the goal of this website is 1-fold, it can't give unbiased story and I don't believe what is given as a background to this picture. It could be any situation, any circumstance....perhaps you may have seen videos of public be-headings, lynching etc of muslims by muslims. So I won't believe any story they make up.

As for the other pictures yeah I saw them but didn't read stories related to them, lot spoke for themselves, ppl beating themselves bloody, kids dressed up as terrorists n what not....pretty sad! even kids were like bloodying themselves that was ghastly!

[Sane Less]

Yaar I am sitting right now not standing :rotfl:

I am doubting the "story behind the picture"....I can't determine the religion of a person just by looking at his bloodied picture and specially since the goal of this website is 1-fold, it can't give unbiased story and I don't believe what is given as a background to this picture. It could be any situation, any circumstance....perhaps you may have seen videos of public be-headings, lynching etc of muslims by muslims. So I won't believe any story they make up.

As for the other pictures yeah I saw them but didn't read stories related to them, lot spoke for themselves, ppl beating themselves bloody, kids dressed up as terrorists n what not....pretty sad! even kids were like bloodying themselves that was ghastly!


Dawi pai, I had read about this news even before it came up on faithfreedom.org, so I believe the news... especially when supported by other similar news. Problem is that such news is not published by more popular and famous news agencies because of political correctness. The whole world is so scared of the people of peace that they fear to publish such news :( And we are forced to obtain such news from debatable sites (as per you).

But faithfreedom.org is not popular for pictures like these. No, sir, it is not. It is more popular for its ideas, its discussion forums, its articles, its debates. And of course, its comments sections :D

[dawizard]

Dawi pai, I had read about this news even before it came up on faithfreedom.org, so I believe the news... especially when supported by other similar news. Problem is that such news is not published by more popular and famous news agencies because of political correctness.

Bhaaya what is politican correctness in this, banda maara gaya toh ab correctness kya bachi....it wouldn't have to be global news, murders happen everywhere that we don't get to know of.....but this is public bhaisaab, so its not like news will be supressed ki murderer couldn't be found...laapata....wouldn't it help this website if it was able to provide authentic links to its stories that it claims?? I think it would help build credibility.

[Sane Less]

Bhaaya what is politican correctness in this, banda maara gaya toh ab correctness kya bachi....it wouldn't have to be global news, murders happen everywhere that we don't get to know of.....but this is public bhaisaab, so its not like news will be supressed ki murderer couldn't be found...laapata....wouldn't it help this website if it was able to provide authentic links to its stories that it claims?? I think it would help build credibility.

You are going around my argument, Dawi pai... Look at the picture again to see where political correctness comes into picture... people of peace in white with swords in hand around a man pleading... if such news was published front page on leading newspapers, imagine the backlash :( Also keep in mind, this happened in Beggardesh... "who cares?" is the attitude of leading newspapers.

And since such news does not appear in leading newspaper, where do you point a link to? Google and you will find links in only sites that you will term as debatable, so what's the point in putting up links?

[dawizard]

I am going around with you? your arguement? :D

Yaar I am not saying that the whole picture is a bunch of actors pretending n all, they may very well be moslems killing an innocent banda. But I am not falling for the background story on this, yaar how can you possibly agree to what story is published here on the website.

So if the author would have said bunch of muslims killing a christian for coming in and pointing the cross at them, you would believe it too right? I wouldn't, this is the pov of a biased website. End of case :)

[dawizard]

One more point, agreed, maybe beggradesh newspapers might not highlight this, but does this mean the person who took this website told the owners of the website what exactly happened? Means they were alive to take this pic, so the person taking this picture is a muslim himself? Just some confusion in mind :confused:

[Sane Less]

Theek hai yaar... you do not have to believe everything on this website :) But with what's happening around the world, I do not find it difficult to believe, call me a sucker if you want :D

And of course, Ali Sina rocks :D

[dawizard]

Sane pai I don't deny what's happening around the world is wrong....all that fanatacism etc, like I mentioned earlier to chai pai, I am totally against muslims who participate in such acts....its so uncivil and inhumane...

[Sane Less]

Dawi pai, how else do you expect them to act? for them to remain people of peace?

:D

[Agastya]

............... does this mean the person who took this website told the owners of the website what exactly happened? Means they were alive to take this pic, so the person taking this picture is a muslim himself? Just some confusion in mind :confused:

Yes it is quite possible that picture is taken by a muslim. It is not only possible but higly likely, remeber vidoes taken when hostages are beheaded. Most probably they used this picture to generate more and more donations from devot muslims for that particular mosque.

[Agastya]

Translated from Bengali:

Appeal

I the undersigned Bimal Kanti Shil, father late Tajendra Lal Shil, Village: South Sadanpur, P.O. Sadanpur, P.S. Banskhali, Dist: Chittagong, Bangladesh .. do hereby state that a gang of 25-30 terrorists broke into my house set the homestead on fire at 1:00 midnight on 17th November.
During that time the following members of my family were inside the house:
1) Tajendra Lal Shil
2) Bakul Shil (60)
3) Anil Shil (42)
4) Smriti Shil (30)
5) Rumi Shil (11)
6) Sonia Shil (7)
7) Kertik Shil (4 days) -Infant
8) Babuti Shil (25)
9) Prashadi Shil (17)
10) Any Shil (15)
11) Debenra Lal Shil (75)

My entire family and relatives were ruthlessly roasted alive in which flammable substances were used. This bloodbath was preplanned and I want unbiased justice in this regards. I have witnessed the whole barbaric massacre.
I have survived jumping out of the ablaze house. I am now under treatment at Mamoni hospital at Chittagong. HRCBM leader Rabindra Ghosh has visited my house and me in the hospital. He also promised for assistance.
I am feeling completely insecure here. I am hapless.
I want to live and do hereby appeal for your help in procuring justice.

(Signed by: Bimal Kanti Shil dated 11/21/03)

from an article by Rajeev Srinivasan (http://www.rediff.com/news/2004/jul/21rajeev.htm)