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dhurandhar
July 1st, 2001, 05:50 PM
If a war breaks out between India and Pakistan with Afghanistan aiding Pakistan, what do you think would Iran do? Why?

khanbaba
July 1st, 2001, 10:49 PM
cmon man.. lets wish for peace between our india and pakistan. none of us can afford war.

i wish for peace and love in this region.

Netra
July 1st, 2001, 11:15 PM
Agreed Khanbaba. I too would like India and Pakistan to be friends. Like a Pakistani gentleman said to me "After all we share the same genes".

dhurandhar
July 2nd, 2001, 12:03 AM
war is inevitable, more it is postponed, the more devastating its gonna be.

teju
July 2nd, 2001, 12:25 AM
I am sure Iran will support Pakistan, if not support at least it wont help India.SOBs muslims, cant trust them.

videsee
July 2nd, 2001, 01:02 AM
[B]I am sure Iran will support Pakistan, if not support at least it wont help India.SOBs muslims, cant trust them.

I am constantly amazed at how educated people like yourself get brain washed into this Hindu-Muslim fight!!

So my question to you is:

1. How many Muslims do you personally know
2. What has been your experience with them
3. I would assume you are honest enough to tell them that you call them 'SOBs"

Go for it buddy!!!! I am eagerly waiting for your answer!!!!:D :smash: ;) ;)

Indian
July 2nd, 2001, 01:11 AM
videsee bhai,

yeh bache(teju) logan se kyun panga le rahe ho , woh aisi hi bak bak kartha hain. They are kids . And for that case all Fundamentalists and people who fight are kids to me.
someone said rightly ...
a KID/CHILD IS A BIGGEST DICTATOR . And i think it applies vice versa tooo !!! :smash:

dhurandhar
July 2nd, 2001, 01:13 AM
We are talking politics here, not religion.........
Iraq is a muslim country but it used to vote against Pakistan on Kashmir issue before Gulf war and was quite friendly to India.

FOR EMOTIONALLY CHARGED GUYS OF ECHARCHA:

Politics knows no religion, it only cares for self-interest. Any politician who is claiming to be orthodox is a moron or is making a fool out of people.

I would rationally think that Iran would be officially neutral but try to take advantage of this situation by sending arms to Ahmed Shah Masood to reclaim lost lands to Taliban. In that way, it would try to help its Shia populace in Afghanistan and benefit us.

chirag2000
July 2nd, 2001, 06:22 AM
Iran
the land of iranis-zorastrians
parsees to be presice
irans olden name is persia

iran was a zorastrian country people there used to worship fire god.[zartrushta]
then came the muslims
and they did what they do best inolerance,slaughter,loot,arson,molestation
people were focibly converted and some zorastrians fled from their country to more peacefull lands such as india

modern day iran is a shia country
But islamists dont concider shias as muslims[hassan hussain killers]
saudi islamists have declared a fatwa on all shias
pakistan persecutes shias and breaks down their places of worship.
so iran will surely not support pakis
afganistan used the iran route to smuggle herion which is grown in afganistan as opium[poppy] and then converted into heroin [very lucrative] in pakistan and transported and sold in europe.
iran does not like this and is a big wall standing against drug trade

the relationship between iran and india dates back to ancient times when it was called persia and was peacefull land befor advent of muslims

iran will surely help india
khatami looks a honest enough man
the zorastrians will surely one day reclain the land that is truly theirs.

khanbaba
July 2nd, 2001, 06:45 AM
agreed chirag!

do u know the first ever country of world who accepted pakistan? i appreciate your feeling about ur country and one should have same love for country as u have BUT.... there is a difference in facts and fiction. dont read much fiction yaaar :)

Ghasiyara
July 2nd, 2001, 09:28 AM
No need to go into historoy. Present situation dictates Iran will stay neutral but India'll get the diplomatic support. Iranians have no lost love for sunni dominated pakistan and India's one of their big trading partner. If the Indo-Iran gas pipeline comes through, there's no way Iran will jeopardise that deal but that ofcourse if a different matter and demands detailed discussion in itself.

viking
July 2nd, 2001, 10:02 AM
Like someone here said that war with Pakistan is inevitable.Unfortunately that country stands on negative foundations of Hindu hatred.Kashmir is just a tool to evoke a religious frenzy amongst the fanatic Islamic mindset of
Pakistan.

These people are aquiring more and more sophisticated weapons by stealing them from the arms capitals of the world.Any govt who talks of peace and development cannot survive there.Anyone who talks of development of the country cannot get elected....Imran Khan tried his hand at that and failed to get elected from a single constituency.

So since war is inevitable it's better that India strikes good diplomatic relationships with Iran as soon as possible and strikes at the heart of the evil Pakistanis even before they know!

dhurandhar
July 2nd, 2001, 11:17 AM
chirag??:mad:
why every post of yours has to be along religion/historic lines, can't you just be neutral and analyse things rationally????

aurangzeb
July 2nd, 2001, 11:31 AM
India does not go to war with Pakistan because it fears defeat.Pakistan Insha Allah this time will rally all Muslim brothers
and grant Kashmir the freedom it deserves.Allah is with his followers and he will help us.

Allah Hafiz

ManOfLaMancha
July 2nd, 2001, 11:36 AM
Originally posted by aurangzeb
Allah is with his followers and he will help us.



Should we assume that He wasn't with you in '47, '71 and '99?

:D

smellyfinger
July 2nd, 2001, 11:38 AM
not to mention '65 ..

Good thing we have more followers of Allah in India than Pakistan, what ??

viking
July 2nd, 2001, 01:48 PM
Allah is with his followers and he will help us.

Help you out in what???...collecting bodies??:D

videsee
July 2nd, 2001, 02:28 PM
tum logon ko har dafaa mooh tod jawaab mila hai!!!!

Dum dabaa ke bhage ho tum log.

India ki jeeth hamesha hogee!!! Insha Allah!!!!

Aamin.

Videsee is a PROUD Indian Muslim!

Ab mooh math khulwao. Chup ke se khisak!!!!

:smash: :smash: :smash:

viking
July 2nd, 2001, 02:52 PM
Hope you read videsee's reply carefully.We have two types of Muslims the ones loyal and ones who are creeps.The loyal ones spend their time in more constructive activities and rise to the very top in India.I can cite examples if you want.And the creepy fanatics dream of India's defeat.

The creepy ones are so puny and intellectually poor that not our army but even organisations like Bajrang dal or Shiv sena can take care of them.So please do not even think of uniting all Muslims!:mad:

chirag2000
July 2nd, 2001, 07:48 PM
im sorry but i miss ur pont khan
fact fiction ??
u mean to say iran wast a country of zorastrian [parsees] and of muslims before??

chirag2000
July 2nd, 2001, 07:54 PM
aurangzeb hats off to you man - you are a real muslim abiding by your quran
badmouthing kafirs and wanting to bring back your "glorious" religion. Atleast tu saamne kehta hain

and then there is videsee who has no love for this country and says lies that he is a true hindusthani.

tell me how can a muslims love darulharb [india] and not darulsalam[pak,saudi] a muslim is only a darulharbi and cannot be a darulsallami

[I]ntolerance,[S]laughter,[L]oot,[A]rson,[M]olestation


Jai hind

Randheer
July 2nd, 2001, 08:08 PM
Originally posted by chirag2000
aurangzeb hats off to you man - you are a real muslim abiding by your quran
badmouthing kafirs and wanting to bring back your "glorious" religion. Atleast tu saamne kehta hain

and then there is videsee who has no love for this country and says lies that he is a true hindusthani.

tell me how can a muslims love darulharb [india] and not darulsalam[pak,saudi] a muslim is only a darulharbi and cannot be a darulsallami

[I]ntolerance,[S]laughter,[L]oot,[A]rson,[M]olestation


Jai hind

Oye Chirag Control Yaar,
Apnon ko kyon sata raha hai.
Main tujhe ek baat batata Hoon.

dhurandhar
July 2nd, 2001, 08:13 PM
this thread was intended for rational discussions about politics, not religious passions.

Randheer
July 2nd, 2001, 08:13 PM
A Muslim is far more honest and trustable than a Hindu.
I am saying this despite being a staunch Hindu.
I believe most of the Muslims are innocent and the Rich and Powerful among Muslims have always used religion as a measure to control them.
Chirag why don't you see the other side,how much Muslims suffer
because of that.Most of our Muslim brothers end up being Motor Mechanics.
The whole world mistrusts them,they are living a life of poverty.
Their Business sense is fully killed.
Chirag,remove the hatred from your mind be rational.
Don't generalize any community bgy your personal experiences.

videsee
July 2nd, 2001, 08:44 PM
Hahahahahah :D ROFL hahahaha

This HYPOCRITE actually has the NERVE to say he has Muslim friends!!!!! Yeah right!!!!!

I doubt he has any friends!!!!!!:D :smash: ;)

All his 'ramblings' are borrowed. Not an original thought in that brain!!!:smash: :smash: :smash:

Tsk Tsk!!!!:D :smash: ;)

P.S. Chal Chiraag.....shuru kar gaaliyaan mere upar.....tere maa baap ne yehi sikhayaa hai!!!!!!!

chirag2000
July 2nd, 2001, 09:08 PM
nice coloufull posts videsee

trying to attract attention of peolpe this way

dhong karna ke bharat mera desh hain yeh koi tujh jaise musalmaan se sikhe

your prophet muhammad[may piss be upon him] must be very pleased by now because you are badmouthing a kafir.
you will surely get your entry pass into jannat where those 72 Houris (virgins) and 28 young pre-pubescent boys will be there for you according to the quran


Koran 78:31
As for the righteous, they shall surely triumph. Theirs shall be gardens and vineyards, and high- bosomed virgins for companions: a truly overflowing cup.

Koran 37:40-48
...They will sit with bashful, dark-eyed virgins, as chaste as the sheltered eggs of ostriches.

Koran 44:51-55
...Yes and We shall wed them to dark-eyed houris. (beautiful virgins)

Koran 52:17-20
...They shall recline on couches ranged in rows. To dark-eyed houris (virgins) we shall wed them...

Koran 55:56-57
In them will be bashful virgins neither man nor Jinn will have touched before.Then which of the favours of your Lord will you deny ?"

Koran 55:57-58
Virgins as fair as corals and rubies. Then which of the favours of your Lord will you deny ?"

Koran 56:7-40
...We created the houris (the beautiful women) and made them virgins, loving companions for those on the right hand.. "

Koran 55:70-77
"In each there shall be virgins chaste and fair... Dark eyed virgins sheltered in their tents whom neither man nor Jin will have touched before..

Koran 52:24
Round about them will serve, to them, boys (handsome) as pearls well-guarded.

Koran 56:17
Round about them will serve boys of perpetual freshness.

Koran 76:19
And round about them will serve boys of perpetual freshness: if thou seest them, thou wouldst think them scattered pearls.

videsee
July 2nd, 2001, 09:21 PM
yaddayadda yadda yadda yadda hindu good muslim bad yadda yadda yadda yadda I'm so clever yadda yadda yadda yadda dekh loonga main tujhe yadda yadda yadda yadda

Khush????

Ch**tiya!!!!!:D :smash: ;)

What do u wanna be when u grow up!!!!!

No no dont tell me....your hero Hitler! BTW he was impotent you DO know that!!!!!!!:smash: :D :D

P.S. Thanks to MOLM for this tarqeeb!!!!!

Randheer
July 2nd, 2001, 09:22 PM
Abhi to Chirag tu mujhe Desh ka Dushman lag raha hai.
Badi Mushkil se echarcha par peace hua hai aur tum use bigad rahe ho.
You have only seen the Bombay Riots,
I was there in 1991 1992 in Lucknow close
amidst Midst of Ayodhya Controversy and I know how much religious fanatism pains.
See there has been no major riots after 1992 in UP
Just try to shed off your fanatism

videsee
July 2nd, 2001, 09:36 PM
Yaar the amazing thing here is, just change Hindu to Muslim and it could be Aurangzeb talking!!! Not chiraag 2000(any relation to Haywards 2000???):D :D

Yaar yeh to bachche hain. Ab tak mooh main se doodh ki baas aathi hai!!!!

Yeh kya jaane jang kya hai!!! Kitne logon ki zindagi bikhar jaathey hain!!

Agar chiraag 2000 (Hayward???) ke g**d me dum hai, agar woh marne mitne ke liye thayyar hai, let him go to Mohammedali road in Bombay and repeat what he says here!! But he wont!! That is because deep down inside him, he is a scared boy!!!!

This is the true enemy of India (and hey *hole Hayward, I dont need to prove to you my loyalty to my country!!!!! oy yaar chiraag boltey boltey Hayward bol gaya!!!).

This is the new generation bred on hatred rather than accomplishment!!!

Bred on perverse theories rather than their own advancement.

This illeterate moron needs to go into the REAL world. Where his aii wont be protecting him!!!!!!!!!!!

khanbaba
July 2nd, 2001, 10:28 PM
YOU SAID !

1. "But islamists dont concider shias as muslims"

just to inform you that shias are 100% muslim and till date no MUFTI has declared them non-muslim. Note that only Muftis can declare 'Fatwa' not every molvi or aalim or molana.


2. "saudi islamists have declared a fatwa on all shias"

again..... no one can issue a fatwa except Mufti and there is no such fatwa against shias saying that they are non muslimg.


chirag.. no doubt that we (sunni and shias) have some differences but those are really very minor and bears no importance. i will repeat my rqst to u that pls dont discuss relegion cause it will cause a bitter environment only.

whatever u wrote about fatwa against shias is nothing more than a piece of fiction.

ShivSainik
July 3rd, 2001, 03:31 AM
Originally posted by ManOfLaMancha


Should we assume that He wasn't with you in '47, '71 and '99?

:D
Are alla ho ya bhagawan wo in jaise KAMEENO ke sath kabhi nahi jayega....Jo sirf awaj hi karate hai....

LEkin aungi ke post padhne me bahot maza at hai. Duniya me Chu..ye logo ki kami nahi hai, ye samaz me ata hai....

khanbaba
July 3rd, 2001, 07:05 AM
chirag...

enough is enough... behave like a reasonable person and stop discussing relegion?

this is a request as well as warning. i can tolerate any thing... even if u abuse me i wont return back to u.. but by insulting Prophet Mohammed (mpbuh) U are opting for a very hard way.

i insist u, to amend ur post and remove the insulting words from there.

ShivSainik
July 3rd, 2001, 07:14 AM
Originally posted by khanbaba
chirag...

enough is enough... behave like a reasonable person and stop discussing relegion?

this is a request as well as warning. i can tolerate any thing... even if u abuse me i wont return back to u.. but by insulting Prophet Mohammed (mpbuh) U are opting for a very hard way.

i insist u, to amend ur post and remove the insulting words from there.

khanbaba everybody have views (Your statement). learn to listen and defend logically.... :D

khanbaba
July 3rd, 2001, 07:19 AM
pls read the post where he used some different words for Prophet Mohammed instead of may peace be upon him.

this is not view... this is insulting our prophet and we are really very crazy about relegion. i know how to respect other's relegion and want others to respect my relegious feeling.

have a look at the post by chirag and then let me know still u think its just views ?

ManOfLaMancha
July 3rd, 2001, 08:46 AM
Originally posted by videsee
Ab tak mooh main se doodh ki baas aathi hai!!!!

That's because chirag2000's weaning is still not complete. Hope to see better posts from him once the weaning process is complete.

:D :D

videsee
July 3rd, 2001, 08:58 AM
is his weaning on Haywards 2000??? hehehehe:D :smash: ;)

dhurandhar
July 3rd, 2001, 11:44 AM
I am concluding that Chirag is inflammatory, and all those who respond to his email are the same kind. Except for those who call to ignore his posts

khopdi
July 3rd, 2001, 11:46 AM
Originally posted by dhurandhar
I am concluding that Chirag is inflammatory, and all those who respond to his email are the same kind. Except for those who call to ignore his posts

dhooan ..kaun sha number call karna padenga to ignore hish poshtsh

Big-G
July 3rd, 2001, 12:11 PM
Originally posted by dhurandhar
If a war breaks out between India and Pakistan with Afghanistan aiding Pakistan, what do you think would Iran do? Why?

This raises another serious question.
If Chirag gets buggered in the ass by the Negroes, with the Hispanics aiding the Negroes, what do you think the Chinks will do? Why?

khopdi
July 3rd, 2001, 12:20 PM
Originally posted by Big-G


This raises another serious question.
If Chirag gets buggered in the ass by the Negroes, with the Hispanics aiding the Negroes, what do you think the Chinks will do? Why?

chiksh will find aurung-sheb..becosh he hash shumthing they alvash wanted....

Big-G
July 3rd, 2001, 12:43 PM
Originally posted by khopdi


chiksh will find aurung-sheb..becosh he hash shumthing they alvash wanted....

wot wot?

khopdi
July 3rd, 2001, 01:40 PM
terkoo angreji naheen aati..apun bolriya tha..jab kaale' chirag ka le' re'onge' ,,...chapte daud kar aurungee ka g**nd laal kar denge