Shortage of soldiers in Iraq -The solution

[aby_baby]

Here is an article by one of my fav. columnists. Makes a lot of sense.


Mangal Pandey, the mercenary

Swaminathan S. Anklesaria Aiyar

I am not keen to see the blockbuster film Mangal Pandey. I find jingo-patriotic themes tiresome and hypocritical.
Rudrangshu Mukherjee in a recent book has demolished the notion that Mangal Pandey was a patriot leading the struggle for independence. More probably, he ran amok under the influence of bhang. For Pandey, mulk meant Awadh or Bihar (where he was born). No nation existed then, only kingdoms and empires. There could be no loyalty to nations.
Loyalty was frequently given to those who paid most and offered the best prospects of plunder. Soldiering was a profession, and soldiers could honourably serve the highest paymaster. The British never had any difficulty in hiring all the Indians they required: that is how they conquered India. When soldiers mutinied in 1857, the British hired irregulars in Punjab, who then recaptured Delhi.
Today, we look down on such soldiers as mercenaries. Yet Mangal Pandey himself was a mercenary. He hired out his services to not even the British Army but the East India Company. That made him a double mercenary: a mercenary soldier serving a mercenary corporation.
Nor was he alone. Indians queued up to serve the British, who were reliable paymasters. This was more than could be said for many Indian rulers.
Some politicians and historians regard 1857 as the start of the independence movement. But this theory is deafeningly silent about the millions of Indians who happily joined the British Indian Army.
Tens of thousands joined the British to crush the 1857 mutiny. Then, during World War I, more than a million Indians enlisted, without any compulsion. This was entirely a volunteer army, bigger than the one India has today.
The Indian mercenary tradition reached its zenith during World War II. No less than 2.5 million Indians enlisted. It was and remains till today the greatest volunteer army in history. Historian Indivar Kamtekar has shown how the average weight of recruits rose sharply after recruitment. Decent food was sufficient reason to fight for a foreign master.
The Quit India movement of 1942 figures big in history books. Tens of thousands of Indians did indeed come out in protest. But, simultaneously, millions of others joined the British Indian Army.
Why am I raking up this history of Indian mercenaries? Does it have any relevance today? Surprisingly, yes.

Thanks to the Iraq imbroglio, the US today is suffering its worst recruitment crisis since the Vietnam War. The US Army missed its recruitment target by 27% in February, 32% in March and 43% in April.
The enlistment bonus has been raised to $90,000 over three years, $20,000 in cash and the rest in benefits. Even so Americans are not interested in enlisting.
After Vietnam, no US President dares suggest another draft (compulsory recruitment). How, then, will the US get volunteers to continue operations in Iraq, and create reserves for contingencies?
Answer: by recruiting foreigners. The US Army already has 30,000 foreigners drawn from over 100 countries. These are legal residents who enlist to get citizenship quickly, short-circuiting the long, painful green-card process. After 9/11, Bush decreed that anybody joining the armed forces would be eligible for citizenship, and in 2003 reduced the waiting time from three years to one.
But legal resident foreigners are not numerous enough to plug the Army’s recruitment gap. Some legislators and military commentators (notably Max Boot) are suggesting that the US ‘‘offer citizenship to anyone anywhere in the planet willing to serve a set term in the US military’’.
This would not be unprecedented: almost one-fifth of Abe Lincoln’s soldiers in the Civil War were foreigners.
Will such ideas attract enough support to become law? Maybe: the momentum for them is building. So, thousands of desperate Indians seeking illegal migration to the US may suddenly find a legal window of entry.
Every time the Indian Army opens fresh recruitment in Bihar, desperate applicants cause stampedes in which many die or are injured. I suspect such people will queue up to apply to join the US Army, with its $90,000 bonus and promise of US citizenship.
Good or bad? I personally dislike the prospect. Whatever may have been our historical traditions, we now live in a world of nation states and national armies. Yet I must admit that any Bihari who joins a foreigner’s army will simply be replicating Mangal Pandey (and millions of others).
Will one such Bihari recruit serve in Iraq, run amok, and be shot as a mutineer? If so, surely some film-maker will make Mangal Pandey II, about an Indian hero defying US imperialism. Audiences will cheer. But some who cheer will then quietly apply to join the US Army.
That’s the irony. Everybody loves loyalty, yet loyalty is more portable than you might think. Such portability has enabled the US to forge a nation out of migrants from a hundred lands.


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US Prez should take this opportunity and announce an amnesty to the Makkus conditional on their serving couple of years in Iraq. :D. Kill many birds with a single stone.

[viking]

Should Kangress party start recruiting mindless merceneries I guess you would be their first recruit. :D

[aby_baby]

Should Kangress party start recruiting mindless merceneries I guess you would be their first recruit. :D

Tch tch, Jamaadar get back to your toilet washing :D and hate speech. You have proven many a times, that decent debate is not your forte like economics ofcourse (Still can't forget the stupidity about MFIL being a private company :D).

[Indian]

Should Kangress party start recruiting mindless merceneries I guess you would be their first recruit.
kutla discussion VPV(vada pav viking) ? :D
always kaaaangressi derailment ??
get some life ..!
since you waste your office work time on this board a lot..some day you will be laid off for your in-efficiency ..and you will join that mercenary group of US (your BJP (the Beggers & Jokers Party) will approve fighting against muslims)
you dont have to appear for written test & group discussion to qualify, they already know that you are mindless . :D
Good Luck for your next job !

[viking]

you dont have to appear for written test & group discussion to qualify

Written test and group discussions?? :D Man those activities are for you low level employees. At my level I never have been even expected to come to the employers office my credentials can be verified easily. :D In some cases offers which I get I dont even have to attend a technical interview.

By the way can you share more light about registry related problems which occur with .NET assemblies. I sure hope you have played around with the .NET architecture by now!:D

The last time you posted you declared that you were a frustrated .NET developer!:D

Sambaruddin Indian!
http://www.echarcha.com/forum/showthread.php?t=20343&highlight=.NET

[viking]

Tch tch, Jamaadar get back to your toilet washing :D and hate speech. You have proven many a times, that decent debate is not your forte like economics ofcourse (Still can't forget the stupidity about MFIL being a private company :D).
So spreading hate about Indian freedom fighters is good hate is it dear Phantom shitter? :D :rotfl:

[arun]

Bubbly Baby,
Spread your hypothesis before Nut War Singh and he will be greatly relieved to know that there is one more Indian who thinks of sending Indians to Iraq on behalf of USA.
Nut War will definitely send your name for some medal to be presented in Central Hall.

Two nuts think alike.

O'Baby !! keep making such proposals and all of us will read these as a joke coming from an infant suffering from "logorrhoea".

Arun

[aby_baby]

So spreading hate about Indian freedom fighters is good hate is it dear Phantom shitter? :D :rotfl:

Jamaadar chala gyaani banne :rotfl:. Ignorant buffoons making a fool of themselves. One chappie is adept and quoting stats (TN being receiver of funds :rotfl:) without checking for authenticity another is good at shouting without knowing anything.


BTW is there any factual inconsistency in what the author says. BTW you can consult your hanger on aka aruna in that :D.

BTW ms. Aruna. recruitment of Indians for support activities happened during NDA regime also. But then you suffer from selective amnesia, so all fault is current regime's and all kudos should go to the previous :D

[aby_baby]

Written test and group discussions?? :D Man those activities are for you low level employees. At my level I never have been even expected to come to the employers office my credentials can be verified easily. :D In some cases offers which I get I dont even have to attend a technical interview.


Like sweeping toilets :D nobody is going to ask the technical details of a commode construction :rotfl:

[viking]

Like sweeping toilets :D nobody is going to ask the technical details of a commode construction :rotfl:

Yeah why should they when they know that commodes are constructed by you.:D Actually your closeness to shit makes you design good cammode ware! :D

After all the title of Phantom shitter is hard earned by you on EC! :rotfl:

[viking]

BTW ms. Aruna. recruitment of Indians for support activities happened during NDA regime also. But then you suffer from selective amnesia, so all fault is current regime's and all kudos should go to the previous :D
Support activities for Iraq? I mean sending medical support teams etc is not exactly military activity isnt it?

Of course you know better as you were the guy on the field driving trucks on the streets of Baghdad transporting cammodes of course!:D :rotfl:

Phantom shitter on a truck!:D You get em cheap I guess. :D

[aby_baby]

Support activities for Iraq? I mean sending medical support teams etc is not exactly military activity isnt it?

Of course you know better as you were the guy on the field driving trucks on the streets of Baghdad transporting cammodes of course!:D :rotfl:

Phantom shitter on a truck!:D You get em cheap I guess. :D

Jaamadar ki akkal. kabhi nahi sudhrega :D

Excuse me nobody here is talking of Govt. Machinery. Private individuals being hired as truck drivers etc etc. to work in Iraq. It has been going on for past 2 and half years, well before this govt came into power. It continues even today. It came into prominence only because a few Indian truck drivers were kidnapped about a year ago.

Saala Sena bhavan ka toilet saaf kar kar ke akkal mein bhi tatti bhar gaya hai :rotfl:

Finally the context of the thread was that in case Uncle sam wants to recruit soldiers, all it has to do is to offer Green cards to people who agree to join it's army and fight in Iraq. Do this in Rural India, and I am sure they can staff their entire army with Indians. It is a sad story but very much true.

[viking]

Finally the context of the thread was that in case Uncle sam wants to recruit soldiers, all it has to do is to offer Green cards to people who agree to join it's army and fight in Iraq. Do this in Rural India, and I am sure they can staff their entire army with Indians. It is a sad story but very much true.

Yeah since you too seem to be from rural India and a person whose only occupation is to Phantom shit on EC, you too would jump to the opportunity if offered a green card! Won't you? :D

Yeps I understand now. You seem to depict the rural psyche here in any case! :rolleyes:

[aby_baby]

Yeah since you too seem to be from rural India and a person whose only occupation is to Phantom shit on EC, you too would jump to the opportunity if offered a green card! Won't you? :D

Yeps I understand now. You seem to depict the rural psyche here in any case! :rolleyes:

Tch tch poor sod. Cannot present factual info, all he has to do is crap here :rotfl: As a jamaadar/Janitor all he can do is to think and act like shit :D.

Rural psyche... enlighten me what is that in your jamaadar world :rotfl:

[viking]

Rural psyche... enlighten me what is that in your jamaadar world

So you want advice from me. There you come dow to your level. Look around for answers before asking. That way you'll have your own opinion. As of now you only seem to be propogating Moan Mohan Singh's opinion or Swaminathan S. Anklesaria Aiyar (Phew!! what a freakin name! :eek: ) opinion. :D

[viking]

The other Aiyyar of the Mani variety abused Swatantrya veer Sawarkar. These good for nothing pimps hailing from the Aiyyar infested region of India seem to be good at poking fun or maligning others without doing anything themselves!

So therefore they have a staunch follower in the phantom shitter (aby_baby).

Birds of the same feather shit alike.

Aiyyo Aiyyaraaa! :D

[aby_baby]

The other Aiyyar of the Mani variety abused Swatantrya veer Sawarkar. These good for nothing pimps hailing from the Aiyyar infested region of India seem to be good at poking fun or maligning others without doing anything themselves!

So therefore they have a staunch follower in the phantom shitter (aby_baby).

Birds of the same feather shit alike.

Aiyyo Aiyyaraaa! :D

saala jamaadar, will follow only the shit of Uddhav. Excuse me can you point out even one factual inconsitency in what this guy has said :D No you cant. But you will spout your shit here :D. But then what can be expected of someone who has the habit of babbling without knowing anything. You make even uddhav thackeray seem intelligent :D (remember the MFIL quote you made in all your intelligence ? :D)

[echarcha]

I really dont know in depth about Mangal Pandey other than what I studied as part of History class in school. aby_baby can you please provide a link for the article. I would like to see what else this author writes about. I dont believe that Mangal Pandey was some cray running amok. Anyway, I would like to dig into it.

About the illegal Mexican aliens in USA. Yes, US should offer citizenship to such aliens if they agree to serve in the US army. If they dont, then deport them!

The only silver lining I can think of about the British Raj is that our nation, as we have it today, came together forgetting the small kingdoms, jagirs and provinces and stodd united as one nation. Had the British not come to India, I shudder to think what we would be today. Without getting touchy and exploding think about it a for a moment. Would we be a fractured collection of small nations like the African continent? Maybe. Well, its better to be the one big nation we are than the smaller nations we would be.

[arun]

Oye Baby,

I can see that with you nothing is ever so bad that it can not get worse.
Come out of the BJP syndrome Baby.

I am now convinced that you really suffer from the disease I have mentioned. It is high time you consult a specialist Doctor.

However, it must be appreciated that for the most complex problem of Iraq
the Bubbly Baby has easy-to-understand rubbish answer.

By the way, has PC already consulted you about the difficult looking problem of garnering the money for rural employment scheme? Remember that opportunity always knocks at the least opportune time. But I am sure you will grab it with both hands. If you do then you will be Amartya Sen Dwiteeya.

Jai Hind phor that.

Arun

[aby_baby]

Oye Baby,

I can see that with you nothing is ever so bad that it can not get worse.
Come out of the BJP syndrome Baby.

I am now convinced that you really suffer from the disease I have mentioned. It is high time you consult a specialist Doctor.

However, it must be appreciated that for the most complex problem of Iraq
the Bubbly Baby has easy-to-understand rubbish answer.
Arun

The perenially misinformed guy speaketh again. Is it so difficult for you to comprehend the article. First of all, it is not my article, but is written by Swaminathan Anklesaria Aiyar who happens to be one of the noted economists of the nation. I agree you suck in that subject :D but hey that isnt the topic of discussion.

Secondly the article isnt about solution to Iraq problem, but a solution to problems currently being faced by Americans in recruiting soldiers to fight in Iraq.

Thirdly the solution being suggested is sounds feasible, though not moral. But then we cant equate morality with Americans can we?

Finally the article doesn't have any made up facts, but has something which is verifiable. Quite unlike the TN being a permanant recipient of Central assistance statement being floated by you know who :D.

[arun]

Oye Baby,

I have observed one thing about this juvenile writer. He copies articles from some where and when he gets into trouble then he obfuscate.

I have seen many self proclaimed economists like our bubbly Baby.
They are all good to blow holes in others plans.
If all of them were so good as they claim, India's poor would be a extinct species since long.

Bubbly Baby, when you read an article written by your own species then spread it only if you subscribe to it. Writings prepared without substance and understanding is bound to fail. What you write in general is called "Palaver"
and who practices this suffers from "Logorrhea".

Baby, run for a doctor who will cure you. It will become chronic disease once you grow up.

Arun

[aby_baby]

Oye Baby,

I have observed one thing about this juvenile writer. He copies articles from some where and when he gets into trouble then he obfuscate.
Arun

Tch tch. Pot calling kettle black. Someone who comes up with made up figures :D. You dont have any credibility here, while the author of the piece has a lot of it :D

Excuse me, this was an article published in Times of India, Bangalore edition. The web edition is not available for me to post a link, however if you open the epaper version @ http://epaper.timesofindia.com and look at Sunday August 21 issue, you can see the article.

Secondly, I do subscribe to the views of the author fully, no doubt about that. However there is a difference between it being my view and me agreeing to somebody's view. Someone with your intelligence will never understand the subtle difference :D.

Thirdly, how long have economists been in charge of Fin ministry or RBI governorship? A decade, and how much of their wishes were actually implemented? less than a quarter at best. And yet all the maladies are being blamed on them. But then as a BJP fanatic who revels in blaming everything on others I can't expect anything more intelligent of you :D.

[kingfisher]

Dont know for sure if Mangal Pandey was a patriot or a mercenary probably he was both, joined army for money and then started getting strong nationalistic feelings.

Nothing wrong in US army deciding to recruit people from poor countries to fight for them, the poor guys need that money and US can afford to pay it to me it seems similar to software professionals working for money in US.

Now there may be a problem if US decides to fight against India using this army though, but we have had such problems in past with Brits too(Indians fighting against Indian born Brit army soldiers) and seem to have learnt to live with such stuff.

Chances are that there may be Indian engineers/scientists who may be working in US dept. of defense/ NASA and creating technologies which the US may be giving to say Pakistan to fight war against terror. Chances are that Pak may use that tech. against India too.

Does anybody know if any Indian scientists/engineers worked on making the Patton tank or F-16's ?

[Indian]

So spreading hate about Indian freedom fighters is good hate is it dear Phantom shitter?

Mr. Vada Pav Viking (Honble. Vice Chancellor of Spread Hatred University),

Thanks for the offer to join your Hate University.
you are proven -master of techniques to spread hate- on this board. We will join your university of hatred once we are sure that we became mindless like you. You have succesfully enrolled(brainwashed) some of our good old members of this board. I congratulate on your achivement and wish good luck to all those new students who joined your Spread Hatred University.
I came to know that you are doing advanced research and doctoral program in hate mongering course, i wish all success for your Doctoral Degree (
Dr. Vada Pav Viking).
There is still scope for enrolling some of our younger members on this board who can be trapped easily with a couple of Hate filled posts. Pls try giving some more hate filled posts, and educate(brainwash) our younger & fresh brains.
Let the Spread Hate University grow by leaps and bounds.

Sincerely
Indian (still not Qualified to enroll In Spread Hate University) :(

[arun]

Oye Bubbly,

Since you are in your formative boby age please try and understand the following class of people.

Those who can - do,

Those who can not - teach
Those who can not teach - administrate
Those who understand - can not manage
Those who manage - do not understand.

Bubbly, my advice to you. Try for the first "those who can - do" and you will have achieved quite a lot in your life.
But it seems that your education so far is leading you towards the rest of the four and that is why you suffer from the disease I have mentioned. Get yourself a proper treatment before you cross over your formative age or else you will find no cure and spend your life as waster.

Get rid of your BJP phobia to start with.

Arun

[aby_baby]

Oye Bubbly,

Since you are in your formative boby age please try and understand the following class of people.

Those who can - do,

Those who can not - teach
Those who can not teach - administrate
Those who understand - can not manage
Those who manage - do not understand.

Bubbly, my advice to you. Try for the first "those who can - do" and you will have achieved quite a lot in your life.
But it seems that your education so far is leading you towards the rest of the four and that is why you suffer from the disease I have mentioned. Get yourself a proper treatment before you cross over your formative age or else you will find no cure and spend your life as waster.

Get rid of your BJP phobia to start with.

Arun
old lady, if the above thing is your creation, I can only pity that. Only those who can understand stuff can manage, that even a kid understands. Now you go ahead and contradict it. Maybe Jack Welch managed so well because he didnt understand GE's business :D

Oh yeah finally, those who cant understand a squat, make all the noise. And all I hear is noise from you especially in economic issues :D

[viking]

Aby_Baby,

Quite frankly arun has a point. After gyrating with economic jargon on this board for so long you have not proved anything (except that fact that you are a moron of the Phantom shitting pedigree..but even this was unintended and came out as a side effect of your arguments).

>You said Manmohan is a breed apart(good pedigree) and that he means what he says

- I gave you an example of how Manmohan Singh cheated Mumbaikars by giving an empty slogan of transforming Mumbai to Shanghai.People here even voted and outrightly rejected this as mere sloganeering by the learned PM. On the contrary you boasted that you could see thru political sloganeering. He's even promised caste based reservations in the Pvt. sector for that matter!

> You said that Manmohan and P. ChUdambaram duo does things differently

-I proved that they do nothing differently because they too follow the beaten path. Raising fuel prices due to rise in world crude oil prices is what any FM would do, nothing path breaking that they are doing.

>You are granting so much credit to the PM with what he's been doing in just one year.

- People know that the first few months he did nothing due to the opposition that he faced from all quarters including his leftist allies. People know that I dont have to tell them that.The BHEL disinvestment fiasco is an example that all here know, I did not make them believe that.

> There has been tremendous price rise in India and many poor people are feeling the pinch of it.

-Given that Manmohan Singh has his limitations too with the current rise in crude oil. But then how can you sustantiate your claim that he's a breed apart. He may be good agreed but he does not stand out of the woodwork!
While you insist he does like a child who is hell bent on proving to his parents that he did not steal from the cookie jar.

>You claim that many here because of your status as student of IIM would feel jealous of you, inspite of the fact that many here are doing far better than you.

- I can only pity you because of this misunderstanding that you have.

Of all the responses that you have on this board you have come out a loser.You are arrogant and abusive. I have even made you tase your own medicine and better.

As a result you are left with this title of Phantom Shitter on this board. The only ally you seem to have here is this good for nothing "Indian" for all that matters you could help him out in managing his finances with his business of selling MLA Pesarattu and Gongura Pickles.

[viking]

Oh and by the way you thread is derailed successfully. No one has posted anything related to the hate you posted against a dead freedom fighter.

And your schemes just as this one related to US recruiting Indians for their army will go up your ass. :D

[arun]

Dear Viking,

Please give some space to Baby and if he follows my advice he will turn out to be a good citizen.
Leave alone this Baby full of juvenile effervescence(B school jargon) . When the bubbles and froth will blow off he will realise that he is really empty.

I have decided to give him time to think and correct himself. He is still in the age of playing Tu Tu, Main Main.

Arun

[bananasplit]

Harsh and hard-to-swallow as might sound, the original article does present a logical point of view. India, as we know today, did not exist till the Britishers consolidated all the princely fragments under one umbrella. Saying that the Indian soldier of the past era merely sold their services without any patriotic inclinations might sound derisive in the present times, but if seen under the context of the past it was almost as normal as a person working for the security of foreign firm. An Indian watchman guarding the offices of Japanese firm would be compelled to act against any other Indian who is trying to break into those offices. Would the watchman be an anti-Indian traitor? Well, same difference.

[aby_baby]

Aby_Baby,
As a result you are left with this title of Phantom Shitter on this board. The only ally you seem to have here is this good for nothing "Indian" for all that matters you could help him out in managing his finances with his business of selling MLA Pesarattu and Gongura Pickles.

Pot and kettle story. Do I start posting the people who have riled against you in the past. The count may well be half of the community over here :D.

Finally a toilet cleaner in Sena bhavan talking so much crap :D. You can understand only the slogans given by Thackeray gang, leave the economic issues to the people who understand them :D not possible in your wild world.

Oh yeah about me being in IIM. I am now a proud Alumni of the great institute. I know there are legions of guys who would kill to be in my place. Just go and look at your nearest CAT coaching center. :D

However you may tout, at best a passout from likes of from Babbanrao Dhone engineering college and who never got into any good college (and conviniently blame reservations) who managed get into IT field can tout your greatness, but ultimately you are one pea-brained hate spewing maniac. :rotfl: Check out your ultimate boss, he may be the alumni of an IIM, oops I forgot you are just a shit cleaner in Sena bhavan :D

As you said the thread has been derailed, I am out of it.

[viking]

Pot and kettle story. Do I start posting the people who have riled against you in the past. The count may well be half of the community over here :D.

Finally a toilet cleaner in Sena bhavan talking so much crap :D. You can understand only the slogans given by Thackeray gang, leave the economic issues to the people who understand them :D not possible in your wild world.

Oh yeah about me being in IIM. I am now a proud Alumni of the great institute. I know there are legions of guys who would kill to be in my place. Just go and look at your nearest CAT coaching center. :D

However you may tout, at best a passout from likes of from Babbanrao Dhone engineering college and who never got into any good college (and conviniently blame reservations) who managed get into IT field can tout your greatness, but ultimately you are one pea-brained hate spewing maniac. :rotfl: Check out your ultimate boss, he may be the alumni of an IIM, oops I forgot you are just a shit cleaner in Sena bhavan :D

As you said the thread has been derailed, I am out of it.

Yes, please mention who have posted against me and how many are still here. Now now dont go looking around for support this miserable way. You are a Phantom shitter no one worth mentioning has come out to support you.

Now I ask eCharchans here.

How many of you are jealous of this phantom shitting aby_baby being educated in IIM?Pls. post your regrets at not being educated in IIM on this thread

And what do you know about who I am and where I got educated etc. At least I believe you when you say that you are even so much as primary school educated!

You are a disgruntled element on this board. Ypu have not been able to prove anything here with your illusionary intelligence.

I can remember how you crapped about BORI at Pune being vandalised by Shiv Sena. That shows your flawed knowledge about politics and current affairs in general. You are a keetabi keeda of the Phantom Shitting pedigree.I need not say more.

You sit in front of the computer with nothing else to do for the whole day and you expect us to believe that you are an IIM student! And even if you were I'm sure that not even a termite would envy you. :p Stop abusing the name of IIM as I think it would get negative publicity due to dumb fcuks like you displaying their flawed knowledge here.

Aaaa..lemme guess, maybe you are the one who cleans toilet bowls at the IIM campus. Afterall you are associated with it in some way at least!:D

[aby_baby]

Yes, please mention who have posted against me and how many are still here. Now now dont go looking around for support this miserable way. You are a Phantom shitter no one worth mentioning has come out to support you.


Frustration shows :D. Poor sod. Does the names Big-G, GPel, Super-G, smellyfinger, Padhu, Xandu etc etc. ring a bell. Maybe most of them left coz they dont want to indulge in any acrimonious debate with a shit cleaner :D.

I dont have to get support from anyone, coz I know my credentials. Moreoever I know when it comes to economics, my knowledge will trump that of the resident Jamaadar :D



Now I ask eCharchans here.

How many of you are jealous of this phantom shitting [COLOR=Navy]aby_baby being educated in IIM?Pls. post your regrets at not being educated in IIM on this thread

What about the dime a dozen coaching classes for CAT :D. Ask the students there too. :d


And what do you know about who I am and where I got educated etc. At least I believe you when you say that you are even so much as primary school educated!


It is obvious you are a jamaadar who cleans toilet in Sena bhavan.


You are a disgruntled element on this board. Ypu have not been able to prove anything here with your illusionary intelligence.

I can remember how you crapped about BORI at Pune being vandalised by Shiv Sena. That shows your flawed knowledge about politics and current affairs in general. You are a keetabi keeda of the Phantom Shitting pedigree.I need not say more.


Do I start digging about the uninformed shit you have managed to crap here. MFIL being a private company. Stocks doubling in 2002. Do I need to go on :D. I dont have the time and inclination to dig into the number of times you made an ass of yourself trying to talk about economics :rotfl:

Here is another example of your great posting powers :D
http://www.echarcha.com/forum/showthread.php?t=10493

Stocks growing by 200% etc etc. Quite obvious, you know a jackshit about stuff, and mostly post here on Uddhav's orders :rotfl:

I was misinformed on BORI, and had the decency to accept my mistake there. How many times have you done that?


You sit in front of the computer with nothing else to do for the whole day and you expect us to believe that you are an IIM student! And even if you were I'm sure that not even a termite would envy you. :p Stop abusing the name of IIM as I think it would get negative publicity due to dumb fcuks like you displaying their flawed knowledge here.


Tch tch, Jamaadar getting angry. Chal hat, jaa sandaas saaf kar. All you can do is to find a community to spread your venom against :D.

[viking]

Tch Tch..poor student seeking the supreme help of his friends who disappeared.Good riddance there are many more people who contribute with interesting articles.I guess you are now slowly coming down to your level that of a zhopadpatti despot who's yearning for learning was never realised because he did not get a scholraship. Maybe you are the eklavya of IIM :D

Your knowledge about economics? LOL now this seems to be your attempt at being funny. Quite frankly I'm not irritated but amused by your presence on this board! :D

Dime a dozen coaching classes for CAT..maybe you are feeling proud for getting admission in one of them!:D

You were misinformed about the BORI incident? So who informs you? The local Kangress corporator? Dont you have money to buy newspapers? My advise maybe you could try being the newspaper boy, that way you'll be able to read newspapers for free. Maybe you can go to a SS shakha they have news papers for free reading for poor beggers like you.:D

Finally I dont have time to dig up old posts. That activity I leave to you as you are a person of no occupation:D

Mayebe even cleaning toilets at IIM was too much for you that you are left with no other activity but to dig out old posts.:D

All you probably can do is find a dead patriot to malign.:D

But that is not your fault it's your bad financial status that you seem to be so frustrated. :rolleyes:

[aby_baby]

Poor jamaadar, never will realise his shit cleaning follies :D. First he asked people who have crapped on his head in the past, I pointed to a dozen :D. But then he likes the shit so wont accept :D

Then will gladly disown his crappy posts in the past, where his ignorance is obvious :D. No wonder he is the resident jamaadar moron.

Did Uddhav update you about MFIL? or about sensex 200% gains, where did you gain that ?

Anyway Uddhav is waiting for his toilet to be cleaned :D. Chal hat hawa aane de , aur tu jaa sandaas saaf kar :D

[viking]

Poor jamaadar, never will realise his shit cleaning follies First he asked people who have crapped on his head in the past, I pointed to a dozen . But then he likes the shit so wont accept
Then will gladly disown his crappy posts in the past, where his ignorance is obvious . No wonder he is the resident jamaadar moron.

Did Uddhav update you about MFIL? or about sensex 200% gains, where did you gain that ?

Anyway Uddhav is waiting for his toilet to be cleaned . Chal hat hawa aane de , aur tu jaa sandaas saaf kar

Abe_Phantom(Shitter),

Your mavaali pals seem to have quit the board so what are you doing here?:D
They seem to have fled the board for good.

Total zhopadpatti language:D Yaar mere driver ka yaad aya bilkul tera jaisa bolta tha woh! Are you the same guy who got fired for stealing petrol from our car? His name was Muthu Swamy Sella Muthu.

BTW your not knowing many things does not surprise me as your hero P.ChUdambaram too is ignorant about many things that happen. At least his wife says so! So ignorant asses are in awe of other ignorant asses!:D

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Nalini ChUdambaram clarifies stand


Monday, August 29, 2005:

Noted lawyer Nalini Chudamabaram has been in the midst of controversy after she represented a legal case for the Income Tax department.

The department falls under her husband, Finance Minister P ChUdamabaram's ministry.

After Tamil Nadu's governing AIADMK accused the move as being unethical, Nalini today clarified that it was her own decision to represent the case and the minister was not aware of it.:clap:

The party's member in parliament, N Jothi however, had earlier claimed that the finance minister was aware of his wife's role in the case. :D

http://www.ndtv.com/morenews/showmorestory.asp?slug=Nalini+Chidambaram+clarifies+stand&id=78061
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Chal ab newspaper wale ke paas jaa tujhe naukri mil jayegi. :rotfl:

[aby_baby]

Abe_Phantom(Shitter),

Your mavaali pals seem to have quit the board so what are you doing here?:D
They seem to have fled the board for good.

Total zhopadpatti language:D Yaar mere driver ka yaad aya bilkul tera jaisa bolta tha woh! Are you the same guy who got fired for stealing petrol from our car? His name was Muthu Swamy Sella Muthu.


Jamaadar aur driver. Saala toilet saaf karte karte sapne achche dekh leta hai. Jamaadar ke haseen sapne :D.

Chal jaa kaam pe lag jaa. Abhi poore toilets saaf nahi hue.Uddhav ji gussa ho jayenge :D

I realised that the number of people who have crapped on your head is much larger than originally thought. No wonder your head is full of shit :rotfl:
And this jamaadar claims not many have posted against him :D.

[viking]

For all those people on Ec who were wondering how aby_baby could talk just like the urchin's from Mumbai's slums here is the answer..

Expose : aby_baby's identity revealed! (http://ww1.mid-day.com/news/city/2005/august/117389.htm)

It was a scoop! His inherrent inclination towards P.ChUdambaram/Swaminathan Aiyyar, his friendship with Big-G and his sudden rage as soon as something about Tamil Nadu was highlighted etc gave me hints at solving this mystery.! :up:

Yeps! it was difficult but nevertheless I did bring out his secret! :up:

[chirag2000]

Viking has stood firmy against all opposition & all the ghaznavids beat a hasty retreat.

[chando]

Gujarati youth's 'American dream' leads to rocket attack in Iraq
Wednesday August 31 2005 00:00 IST
PTI

DAHOD: The dream of 23-year-old Hathim Kathiriya, a computer specialist in the US army serving in Iraq, of pursuing higher studies in US came to a sad end when he was killed in a rocket attack on August 22.


http://www.newindpress.com/Newsitems.asp?ID=IEH20050830102858&Title=Top+Stories&Topic=0&