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max de Indiana
February 19th, 2005, 04:05 PM
The central question about vegetarian diets used to be whether it was healthy to eliminate meat and other animal foods. Now, however, the main question has become whether it is healthier to be a vegetarian than to be a meat eater. The answer to both questions, based on currently available evidence, seems to be yes.

- Jane E. Brody
New York Times News Service
Today, with increasing evidence of diet's critical effect on good health and longevity, more and more people are investigating this question: Is the human body better suited to a vegetarian diet or one that includes meat?

In the search for answers, two areas should be considered - the anatomical structure of the human body, and the physical effects of meat consumption.

Since eating begins with the hands and mouth, what can the anatomy of these bodily parts tell us? Human teeth, like those of the herbivorous creatures, are designed for grinding and chewing vegetable matter. Humans lack the sharp front teeth for tearing flesh that are characteristic of carnivores. Meat-eating animals generally swallow their food without chewing it and therefore do not require molars or a jaw capable of moving sideways. Also, the human hand, with no sharp claws and with its opposable thumb, is better suited to harvesting fruits and vegetables than to killing prey.

PHYSIOLOGICAL COMPARISONS
please check the link :)

http://www.webcom.com/~ara/col/books/VEG/ht/chapone.html


Digesting Meat
Once within the stomach, meat requires digestive juices high in hydrochloric acid. The stomachs of humans and herbivores produce acid less than one-twentieth the strength of that found in carnivores.

Another crucial difference between the meat-eater and the vegetarian is found in the intestinal tract, where the food is further digested and nutrients are passed into the blood. A piece of meat is just part of a corpse, and its putrefaction creates poisonous wastes within the body. Therefore meat must be quickly eliminated. For this purpose, carnivores possess alimentary canals only three times the length of their bodies. Since man, like other non-flesh-eating animals, has and alimentary canal twelve times his body length, rapidly decaying flesh is retained for a much longer time, producing a number of undesirable toxic effects.

One body organ adversely affected by these toxins is the kidney. This vital organ, which extracts waste from the blood, is strained by the overload of poisons introduced by meat consumption. Even moderate meat-eaters demand three times more work form their kidneys than do vegetarians. The kidneys of a young person may be able to cope with this stress, but as one grows older the risk of kidney disease and failure greatly increases.

Heart Disease
The inability of the human body to deal with excessive animal fats in the diet is another indication of the unnaturalness of meat-eating. Carnivorous animals can metabolize almost unlimited amounts of cholesterol and fats without any adverse effects. In experiments with dogs, up to one half pound of butterfat was added to their daily diet over a period of two years, producing absolutely no change in their serum cholesterol level.

On the other hand, the vegetarian species have a very limited ability to deal with any level of cholesterol or saturated fats beyond the amount required by the body. When over a period of many years an excess is consumed, fatty deposits (plaque) accumulate on the inner walls of the arteries, producing a condition known as arteriosclerosis, hardening of the arteries. Because the plaque deposits constrict the flow of blood to the heart, the potential for heart attacks , strokes, and blood clots is tremendously increased.

As early as 1961, the Journal of the American Medical Association states that ninety-seven percent of heart disease, the cause of more than one half of the deaths in the United States, could be prevented by a vegetarian diet.1 These findings are supported by an American Heart Association report that states, "In well-documented population studies using standard methods of diet and coronary disease assessment ... evidence suggests that a high-saturated-fat diet is an essential factor for a high incidence of coronary heart disease."2 The National Academy of Sciences also reported recently that the high serum cholesterol level found in most Americans is a major factor in the coronary heart disease "epidemic" in the United States.3

Cancer
Further evidence of the unsuitability of the human intestinal tract for digestion of flesh is the relationship established by numerous studies, between colon cancer and meat-eating.4 One reason for the incidence of cancer is the high-fat, low-fiber content of the meat-centered diet. This results in a slow transit time through the colon, allowing toxic wastes to do their damage. States Dr. Sharon Fleming of the department of Nutritional Sciences at the University of California at Berkeley, "Dietary fiber appears to aid in reducing ... colon and rectal cancer."5 Moreover, while being digested, meat is known to generate steroid metabolites possessing carcinogenic (cancer-producing) properties.

As research continues, evidence linking meat-eating to other forms of cancer is building up at an alarming rate. The National Academy of Sciences reported in 1983 that "people may be able to prevent many common cancers by eating less fatty meats and more vegetable and grains."6 And in his Notes on the Causation of Cancer, Rollo Russell writes, "I have found of twenty-five nations eating little or no flesh, none had a high rate."7

Some of the most shocking results in cancer research have come from exploration of the effects of nitrosamines. Nitrosamines are formed when secondary amines, prevalent in beer, wine, tea, and tobacco, for example, react with chemical preservatives in meat. The Food and Drug Administration has labeled nitrosamines "one of the most formidable and versatile groups of carcinogens yet discovered, and their role ... in the etiology of human cancer has caused growing apprehension among experts." Dr. William Lijinsky of Oak Ridge National Laboratory conducted experiments in which nitrosamines were fed to test animals. Within six months he found malignant tumors in one hundred percent of the animals."The cancers," he said, "are all over the place; in the brain, lungs, pancreas, stomach, liver, adrenals, and intestines. The animals are a bloody mess."8

***Dangerous Chemicals in Meat ****Numerous other potentially hazardous chemicals, of which consumers are generally unaware, are present in meat and meat products. In their book Poisons in Your Body, Gary and Steven Null give us an inside look at the latest gimmicks used in the corporate-owned animal factories. "The animals are kept alive and fattened by the continuous administration of tranquilizers, hormones, antibiotics, and 2,700 other drugs," They write. "The process starts even before birth and continues long after death. Although these drugs will still be present in the meat when you eat it, the law does not require that they be listed on the package."

One of these chemicals is diethylstilbestrol (DES), a growth hormone that has been used in the U.S. for the last twenty years despite studies that have shown it to be carcinogenic. Banned as a serious health hazard in thirty-two countries, it continues to be used by the U.S. meat industry, possibly because the FDA estimates it saves meat producers more than $500 million annually.

Another popular growth stimulant is arsenic. In 1972 this well-known poison was found by the U.S. Department of Agriculture (USDA) to exceed the legal limit in fifteen percent of the nation's poultry.9

Sodium nitrate and sodium nitrite, chemicals used as preservatives to slow down putrefaction in cured meat and meat products, including ham, bacon, bologna, salami, frankfurters, and fish, also endanger health. These chemicals give meat its bright-red appearance by reacting with pigments in the blood and muscle. Without them, the natural gray-brown color of dead meat would turn off many prospective consumers.

Unfortunately, these chemicals do not distinguish between the blood of a corpse and the blood of a living human, and many persons accidentally subjected to excessive amount have died of poising. Even smaller quantities can prove hazardous, especially for young children or babies, and therefore the United Nations' joint FAO/WHO Expert Committee of Food Additives warned, "Nitrate should on no account be added to baby food." A.J. Lehman of the FDA pointed out that "only a small margin of safety exists between the amount of nitrate that is safe and that which may be dangerous."

Because of the filthy, overcrowded conditions forced upon animals by the livestock industry, vast amounts of antibiotics must be used. But such rampant use of antibiotics naturally creates antibiotic-resistant bacteria that are passed on to those who eat the meat. The FDA estimates that penicillin and tetracycline save the meat industry $1.9 billion a year, giving them sufficient reason to overlook the potential health hazards.

The trauma of being slaughtered also adds "pain poisons" (such as powerful stimulants) into the meat. These join with uneliminated wastes in the animal's blood, such as urea and uric acid, to further contaminate the flesh the consumers eat.

Diseases in Meat
In addition to dangerous chemicals, meat often carries diseases from the animals themselves. Crammed together in unclean conditions, force-fed, and inhumanely treated, animals destined for slaughter contract many more diseases than they ordinarily would. Meat inspectors attempt to filter out unacceptable meats, but because of pressures from the industry and lack of sufficient time for examination, much of what passes is far less wholesome than the meat purchaser realizes.

A 1972 USDA report lists carcasses that passed inspection after the diseased parts were removed. examples included nearly 100,000 cows with eye cancer and 3,596,302 cases of abscessed liver. The government also permits the sale if chickens with airsacculitis, a pneumonia-like disease that causes pus-laden mucus to collect in the lungs. In order to meet federal standards, the chicken's chest cavities are cleaned out with air-suction guns. But during this process diseased air sacs burst and pus seeps into the meat.

The USDA has even been found to be lax in enforcing its own low standards. In its capacity of overseeing federal regulatory agencies, the U.S General Accounting Office cited the USDA for failure to correct various violations by slaughterhouses. Carcasses contaminated with rodent feces, cockroaches, and rust were found in meat-packing companies such as Swift, Armour, and Carnation.10 Some inspectors rationalize the laxity, explaining that if regulations were enforced, no meat-packers would remain open for business.

Nutrition Without Meat
Many times the mention of vegetarianism elicits the predictable reaction, "What about protein?" To this the vegetarian might well reply, "What about the elephant? And the bull? And the rhinoceros?" The ideas that meat has a monopoly on protein and that large amounts of protein are required for energy and strength are both myths. While it is being digested, most protein breaks down into its constituent amino acids, which are reconverted and used by the body for growth and tissue replacement. Of these twenty-two amino acids, all but eight can be synthesized by the body itself, and these eight "essential amino acids" exist in abundance in non-flesh foods. Dairy products, grains, beans, and nuts are all concentrated sources of protein. Cheese, peanuts, and lentils, for instance, contain more protein per ounce than hamburger, pork, or porterhouse steak. A study by Dr. Fred Stare of Harvard and Dr. Mervyn Hoarding of Loma Linda University made extensive comparisons between the protein intake of vegetarians and flesh-eaters. They concluded that "each group exceeded twice its requirement for every essential amino acid and surpassed this amount by large margins for most of them."

For many Americans, protein makes up more than twenty percent of their diet, nearly twice the quantity recommended by the World Health Organizations. Although inadequate amounts of protein will cause loss of strength, excess protein cannot be utilized by the body; rather, it is converted into nitrogenous wastes that burden the kidneys. The primary energy source for the body is Carbohydrates. Only as a last resort is the body's protein utilized for energy production. Too much protein intake actually reduces the body's energy capacity. In a series of comparative endurance tests conducted by Dr. Irving Fisher of Yale, vegetarians performed twice as well as meat-eaters. By reducing the non-vegetarians' protein consumption by twenty percent, Dr. Fisher found their efficiency increased by thirty-three percent. Numerous other studies have shown that a proper vegetarian diet provides more nutritional energy than meat. Furthermore, a study by Dr. J. Iotekyo and V. Kipani at Brussels University showed that vegetarians were able to perform physical tests two to three times longer than meat-eaters Before exhaustion and were fully recovered from fatigue in one fifth the time needed by the meat-eaters.

max de Indiana
August 11th, 2005, 09:57 PM
Bhai mere iss purane thread ka title kisne change kiya :mad: .... :confused: :confused:
moderator bhai ye to zorZabardasti hai.... :D

deshpremi
August 11th, 2005, 10:24 PM
Utter Bull Shit !!

Lemme blow some holes in the arguments given by the jerk who wrote this article... the comparison chart in the site says the following...

1. Humans have intestinal tract 12 times the body length... so if an average human is say just 5 feet, it wud mean 60 feet of guts... no way. An average human has 20-25 feet of intestines (dude check the internet or ask a doctor). So with a 25 feet gut , the average human wud be 2 feet in height as per your argument!!

2. Carnivores have no skin pores and perspire thru the tongue: Never heard anything weirder than this.. I have had pet dogs since ages, believe me dogs sweat.. now dont say dogs are vegitarians.

I can point out several other shitty arguments given in this article, but I wont waste my time, I gotta go and eat some CHICKEN TIKKAS and MUTTON ROGAN JOSH !!!

dawizard
August 11th, 2005, 10:40 PM
maxie bhai...lemme raise my hand and let u know i didn't change it....i am pure veggie and don't even read such lengthy posts :D

max de Indiana
August 11th, 2005, 11:51 PM
!!

, I gotta go and eat some CHICKEN TIKKAS and MUTTON ROGAN JOSH !!! :D :D

Arre Desh premi....thoda bahut prem bechare innocent Animals ke liye bhi bacha ke rakh..ke saara prem desh ke hi liye hai :rotfl:

you don't need to defend yourself...if you like the facts than accept..otherwise just forget :D

maxie bhai...lemme raise my hand and let u know i didn't change it....i am pure veggie and don't even read such lengthy posts :D

Ok- Bhai..thik hai kisi aur ne change kiya hoga :D

deshpremi
August 12th, 2005, 12:12 AM
:D :D

Arre Desh premi....thoda bahut prem bechare innocent Animals ke liye bhi bacha ke rakh..ke saara prem desh ke hi liye hai :rotfl:

you don't need to defend yourself...if you like the facts than accept..otherwise just forget :D

:D

Maxi wale unkil, thats what I am pointing out, whats been posted in ur beloved article is not facts. A fact is that human intestines are 25 feet long, not 60 feet as per the arithmetic suggested in ur article. Fact is that dogs sweat from their skin, not from the tongue as suggested in ur article. So its time u lifted up ur Maxi and looked at the BARE FACTS !!

max de Indiana
August 12th, 2005, 08:26 PM
Utter Bull Shit !!

, I gotta go and eat some CHICKEN TIKKAS and MUTTON ROGAN JOSH !!!

It shows your frustration :D

all compairisions are correct...
if you are not agree with one....it's fine
but don't stick with one..there are many other copmarisions :D

your reply reminded me Charracter of a corrupt lawyer in some Mumbai's Films :D
Lawyer knows well that his client is a murderer...but he still defend his client
why...because he don't want to loose the case...Why because of his Ego :D

if your Heart/health/soul allow you to eat a cow/elefant/goat/snake :D or anyother animal..please do it..no one will bann your habits.
:)

rameshp
August 12th, 2005, 09:07 PM
It shows your frustration :D

all compairisions are correct...
if you are not agree with one....it's fine
but don't stick with one..there are many other copmarisions :D

your reply reminded me Charracter of a corrupt lawyer in some Mumbai's Films :D
Lawyer knows well that his client is a murderer...but he still defend his client
why...because he don't want to loose the case...Why because of his Ego :D

if your Heart/health/soul allow you to eat a cow/elefant/goat/snake :D or anyother animal..please do it..no one will bann your habits.
:)

its not frustration. he's just pointing out ur bogus theory of veggie diet better than non veggie. if u like veggie diet, thats good, good for u and those animals but that doesnt give u f*ck rights abt preaching veggie diet. its becoming irritating maxi bhai. its become like suhasini preaching christainity. :D :whacky:

max de Indiana
August 12th, 2005, 09:45 PM
becoming irritating maxi bhai. its become like suhasini preaching christainity. :D :whacky:

It is true .....truth may irritate sometime :D

but as i said earlier..i am not asking anybody to join me and start eat only veg food... :whacky:
i provided some links..in my posts..advantages and disadvantages of eating Veg or nonVeg food....
now it is choice of each individual to decide...what is good for him/her
i may update some info's in future if necessary

btw.. above thread is very old i posted it when i joined e-charcha... :D