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echarcha
May 29th, 2001, 02:05 PM
Awaiting the reviews from all eCharchans who have seen Pearl Harbor recently.

Shama and I saw it on the 25th May - Friday that the movie opened.

For now, I can say that it was a good history lesson but with total American Dharmendra kind of stuff... It could not yet capture my attention like Brave Heart or Gladiator. Maybe I am coparing apples and oranges, but Pearl Harbor had a crappy love triangle story thrown in. The sepcial effects were marvelluous because you felt as if the whole thing was so real. Kudos to ILM for such a wonderful job.

They tried to make it an epic like Titanic but the haunting music pieces were missing. The dog fights in old fighter jets were really cool :cool:

aryaputra
June 4th, 2001, 12:31 PM
"Better to wait until it's available on video and you have the option of using a fast-forward button."
-- James Berardinelli,

"Would have made a good silent movie. In fact, almost all of this film would work better if the actors just didn't open their mouths."
-- Dave White, IFILM

"Sure, it'll be this year's Titantic. Funny, 'cause it sinks just the same."
-- E! ONLINE


What's your opinion?

(i have not got to see it yet)

viking
June 4th, 2001, 12:43 PM
Absolutely boring :o

echarcha
June 4th, 2001, 01:07 PM
I have merged the thread started by arya with my original thread.
-- Sunit


THe war scenes in the end were quite interestying. The movie should have had a song like My heart will go on from Titanic.

I saw the Making of Pearl Harbor on MSNBC yesterday. The making of the special effects were really cool and this is the only one thing that I would recommend all you folks to see the film for.

Rest of the movie has a banal love triangle which does not even stand up to the classic HIndi film Sangam.

aryaputra
June 4th, 2001, 01:52 PM
well, one of the critics on TV (WHYY.ORG) commented that in some scenes the computer generated airplanes were not in proportion to the rest of the scenario which makes it feel unreal

on another note,

on Friday 01 May I had the option to see
1. Pearl Harbor
2. The Mummy Returns


I chose the latter and do not regret it as much - it was like a no brainer fairy + adventure tale.

echarcha
June 4th, 2001, 03:03 PM
It looks like the success of Titanic sort of signalled that every Holllywood producer of history based films has the right to have
- long 2 plus hour movies
- very big budgets
- lots of special effects
- inserting a stupid love story

But this mix of spices worked well in Titanic. I feel the success was not just due to Kate Winslet and Leonardo, but thrughout the movie the haunting and lilting tunes that played in the background gave it a gripping quality.

In Pearl Harbor, when ben Affleck says a very romantic line before flying off to UK, the background score was so poor. It did not make you feel one with the scene.

And most of the film was only concentrating on the stupid antics of the two lead stars. They should have spent more time dealing with the build up of the Japanese attack and references to what realy was happening during World War 2.

The Japanese admiral says that America has shut off our oil pipeline and we must hit it where it hurts. Now I am no history buff, and the movie says that US was not part of World War 2 but was forced into it. So what is this oil pipeline reference?

Titanic atleast laid the facts straight about when the ship was built and what made it special and then the sinking. So the love story in between looked part of the film and was acceptable.

Anyway... enough said... I just felt that I would definitely not see this film again or buy a DVD as a collector item ;)

Indian
June 5th, 2001, 12:02 AM
Originally posted by echarcha
The Japanese admiral says that America has shut off our oil pipeline and we must hit it where it hurts. Now I am no history buff, and the movie says that US was not part of World War 2 but was forced into it. So what is this oil pipeline reference?

Titanic atleast laid the facts straight about when the ship was built and what made it special and then the sinking. So the love story in between looked part of the film and was acceptable.


Whenever i see a movie like this ..i get a strong feeling of Kicking Americans ..brutally :D

Is this movie trying to find an excuse for their Nuking of Hiroshima and Nagasaki ??

Did you guys saw the way they have picturised ..the number of people being killed in the pearl harbour attack by japanese ??
Is this pearl harbour killing more horrible than ..what americans did to japanese ?? :mad:

It appeared to me as if ..Americans are trying to defend themselves ..for their crticism on nuking Japan.
Is this movie fnded by American Government or something ? :D

American movies try to create this type of false image of America ..that it was always right in its every action. They almost create an Angelic versions of the Actors/Actresses.Aaah ......Americans are Angels on Planet Earth.... :mad: They twist the stories ..as it suits better for them.

keeping all this aside ..i liked some aerial shots and old fighter jets.
Nothing more ..than this

risingsun
June 5th, 2001, 07:15 AM
i also heard that while showing they have manupulated history so as not to offend 'some' people.

In the UK it is going hit, yesterday i heard that it grossed somewhere around a million the first week.

rationalthinker
June 5th, 2001, 08:25 AM
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

+------ Inconsistencies in the Movie "Pearl Harbor" ------+

In the movie, Ben Affleck character was skilled in the an-
cient art of origami. In reality, Americans didn't really
understand Japanese culture prior to the war.

In the film, it looks like 20 Japanese planes were brought
down by the U.S. airmen. In actuality, only Lieutenants
Kenneth Taylor and George Welch were credited with hits
and felled a total of six Japanese planes.

In the film Affleck volunteers for the Eagle Squadron, a
British unit created for American pilots before the U.S.
entered WWII. In reality, he couldn't have joined with surr-
endering his commission, for it would have been a violation
of neutrality for an American to fight with the British.

In the movie, boys were playing baseball when the Japanese
planes flew in when the actual bombing began at 7:55 on
a Sunday morning. Who is going to be playing baseball then?

In the film, FDR stands up when in reality he was stricken
with polio and wouldn't have been able to get up out of the
chair on his own.


***

June 6th, 2001, 02:18 PM
Haan to bhaiya aisa hai......
Ki jo gas pipe line ki baat aapko samajh mein nahi aayee woh kahani is tarah hai.
Dwitiya vishyayudh ki shuruaat ke samay.. amreeka ne jaapan ki jo ki oil ke liye amreeka par nirbhar tha, oil supply band kar di, jisse ki japaniyoon ko problem aane lagi, iska badla lene ke liye japan ne pearl harbor par attack kia.

umeed karta hoon ki aapke kshudha shaant ho gayee hogi.