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smartganduinuk
June 11th, 2003, 08:32 AM
I use powerlogger from phpee.com

What logging tools / software do you use ?


Mac / Echarcha ?

echarcha
June 11th, 2003, 08:38 AM
I use the free Webalyazer tool and one more tool which are both provided for by the ISP hosting eCharcha.Com

smartganduinuk
June 11th, 2003, 08:40 AM
Originally posted by echarcha
I use the free Webalyazer tool and one more tool which are both provided for by the ISP hosting eCharcha.Com

pai,

webalizer is only for analysis - not for logging - the logs are created by the server

what i meant was creating your own logs and data

wmac
June 11th, 2003, 08:42 AM
Smart,

I use CPanel (hosting control panel) on almost all of my websites. So I prefer webalizer.

It shows page views for 10 most visited web pages, Top 100 referers, visitor countries, traffic per day, hour, etc and many others.

If you want I can give you a test hosting account so that you can take a look at it (Though I think you have already worked with it.)

Mac

wmac
June 11th, 2003, 08:46 AM
Smart,

Just saw your reply.

In fact webalizer results are almost enough for my purpose.

Though for some of the software I have developed myself I have considered a MySQL table for logs. I log things like lastlogin (for users) number of pages viewed by a user etc.

Other than those custom scripts I do not log anything.

Mac

Budmaas
June 11th, 2003, 08:49 AM
Good going you all .. I'm being greedy now ....:clap:

smartganduinuk
June 11th, 2003, 08:55 AM
Originally posted by wmac
Smart,

I use CPanel (hosting control panel) on almost all of my websites. So I prefer webalizer.

It shows page views for 10 most visited web pages, Top 100 referers, visitor countries, traffic per day, hour, etc and many others.

If you want I can give you a test hosting account so that you can take a look at it (Though I think you have already worked with it.)

Mac


mac,

i have seen / used webalizer several years ago - but once i saw powerlogger - nothing ever came close - but there have been no updates for last 8 months - and i was looking for geo data for users

i think webalizer is pretty basic in what it does - it just analyzes the logs

lets say i wanted to know what percentage of my users came from USA - webalizer is stumped

as we all know - the data provided on the basis of .com /.net tld's is really crap

despite searching - there is no software which i can install on my space and would give me more than what powerlogger gives - but search continues

btw - why do you prefer cpanel and not plesk ?

wmac
June 11th, 2003, 09:00 AM
Just looked at phlogger and it is very precious tool for ecommerce sites because it exactly shows the bahaviour of visitors. (which pages did a specific user visited, how did he went through pages, how many pages, where entered, where left etc.)

The only thing is that I have always been under shortage of CPU power.

Most of my sites have high MySQL and CPU usage so if I want to use these tools I should use them on very low traffic websites (ie ecommerce sites and business websites).

If I want to use it on those websites which have about 3000-3500 unique visitors a day it will bring down the server.

I have limited number of queries on those websites to 1-3 queries/ page to limit the load they produce.

But I will need these tools on a few (2-3) websites to gather more info that why so many visitors to one of my sites produce such low sales. Where they live etc.

Thank you for bringing these tools to my mind.

Best Regards,
Mac

echarcha
June 11th, 2003, 09:03 AM
Since eCharcha.Com attracts such a 'fine' audience ;) I think Webalyzer suits me best.

I use the ISP provided CPanel. Its enough for me. Have never seen plesk.

wmac
June 11th, 2003, 09:17 AM
Smart,

I had a reseller account on Plesk about 2 years ago and then I had a plesk server about 1.5 years ago.

It seems very stable to me but at least at that time it lacked some features. Most important was some reseller features, SSH, complicated file structure, a little slow navigation and some others.

But the most important factor was that most of the users think it's very ugly :) Also as my users have seen and used CPanel they think Plesk has NO!!! features.

They actually do not use 80% of cpanel's features but they love it because it has a lot of features.

Myself should admit that I love WHM panel (Administration and reseller) specially administration panel has endless features that make server administration an easy game.

For example on Ensim (I had several Ensim Servers for about 2 years) I should spare about 1 hours each day for administration but on a WHM-CPanel I did not need more than 5 minutes/day.

CPanel has a great server/account move feature which will let you move a server from a datacenter to another in just 2-3 hours (everything is automatic).

It supports email accounts on subdomains and parked domains, stats for both main domain and subdomains and a lot of other features.

Cpanel:
1- Simply it needs very little administration efforrts
2- Customers love it

I have seen that in new plesk versions they have added some colors (it was gray at that time) which helps it become more beautiful. But yet they should implement some kind of templates which others can design their own control panel templates if they want. Also some of Cpanel features will help more success for them.

Anyway if it's features are enough for you then you can continue using it. It is really stable and has little or no bugs.

Among those panels I have my most experience with Ensim and I hate it more than others as It has the most critical errors I have ever seen on a software.

Regards,
Mac

YedaAnna
June 11th, 2003, 09:28 AM
Awstats is good enuf for me poor bugger:D