The US-Iraq war and the Great Divide at eCharcha.Com

[echarcha]

Folks,

Since this IRaq war buzz started, one thing came to fore. We knew exactly who was FOR and who was AGAINST the US action on Iraq.

Well, it reached such an extent that good e-friends till yesterday became abuse hurling e-foes of today on the site. We have had religion and other topics which created much heat, but never have I seen so much venom and hot heads before this US-Iraq topic.

Well, I would like to say that -"This is a discussion. Some are for and some are against the war. Please accept that all have a right to defend their opinions and sentiments. BUT LETS NOT GET so far apart that this war causes a permanent rift between us."


I am not asking anyone to change their opinions. If you are againt war.. fine... if you are for it.. so be it. I am also not saying that dont discuss this issue in future.. but just a few pointers -

--> eCharcha.Com nor I started the Iraq issue so keep me and the site out of this.

--> Those who are against the war are not morons just like those who do support the war are not.

--> All of us here were and are still the same eCharchan family before this Iraq war issue heated up. Dont break good relations we have had over a side you passionatley belive in about this war.

Hope you can understand what I mean and my intentions to keep things smooth as they were.

[Madhav]

wonder we dont have same hatred for mehbooba the whore who is encouraging killers and punishing brave police officers

it is openly state sponsored crime now in kashmir

[echarcha]

Originally posted by Madhav
wonder we dont have same hatred for mehbooba the whore who is encouraging killers and punishing brave police officers

it is openly state sponsored crime now in kashmir

What is this bhai? Who is mehbooba?? Thoda URLs de do..

[Big-G]

Lets keep our cool and not let a few disagreements affect our feelings for each other.

At times, during moments of passion or extreme emotion, a person tends to make his words sharper and bitter than they mean to. Lets try to understand this and not bite each others nutz.

[Dada]

Originally posted by echarcha
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Natkhat- cross posting karta hain -

read this (http://www.echarcha.com/forum/showthread.php?threadid=12918&goto=lastpost)

[dirty]

OOOW OOWOOWOW OOW OOW OW Ho!


Mehbooba Mehbooba ! Mehbooba Mehbooba !

Tang tanga ting tanga tang !


Tang tanga ting tanga tang !



OOW VOO OO OOO OOO

[Big-G]

*settles down with a pan, sniffing the gajra around his wrist and enjoy Dirty's Mujra*

[echarcha]

Originally posted by Big-G
*settles down with a pan, sniffing the gajra around his wrist and enjoy Dirty's Mujra*

Hmm... can I watch too :D

Well, folks I hope we dont end up launching MOABs on each other.

[dirty]

* Slowly slides out of his pants to revel his blue thong *

[Ravi]

Originally posted by echarcha
Hmm... can I watch too :D

Well, folks I hope we dont end up launching MOABs on each other. The Air Force tested this bomb in Florida and the bomb blast was so strong, at Disneyworld 25 French tourists surrendered." —Jay Leno
LMAO,

[desin01]

For all the hue and cry that has been raised, this will all be forgotten. Shed no tears for Saddam but rejoice that the economy will soon recover !!

[Big-G]

Originally posted by Ravi
The Air Force tested this bomb in Florida and the bomb blast was so strong, at Disneyworld 25 French tourists surrendered." —Jay Leno
LMAO,


Another one I heard on Saturday night live or somewhere.

Air force tested this bomb in Florida, and the blast was so strong that Florida agreed to disarm unconditionally

:D

[Big-G]

Originally posted by desin01
For all the hue and cry that has been raised, this will all be forgotten.

Forgotten by petty, selfish pieces of $hit like you and me. For those who are gonna see their children, parents, husbands, wives, daughters and sister die before their very eyes, the only thing that'll make them forget this is death.

Ever wonder how terrorists are created??

[desin01]

Originally posted by Big-G
Forgotten by petty, selfish pieces of $hit like you and me. For those who are gonna see their children, parents, husbands, wives, daughters and sister die before their very eyes, the only thing that'll make them forget this is death.

Ever wonder how terrorists are created??

don't care a damn for them, for they never cared for us (terrorism in India). This will be retribution for their crimes !!! India has also seeen millions killed (partition was the biggest genocide in history) by people of the same kind. We paid our karma, now it is the muslims turn to pay theirs !!

[Big-G]

Originally posted by desin01
don't care a damn for them, for they never cared for us (terrorism in India). This will be retribution for their crimes !!!

Retribution for the crimes of children and women who'll be dying? :)

Whatever... have a good life, pal!

[desin01]

Originally posted by Big-G
Retribution for the crimes of children and women who'll be dying? :)

Whatever... have a good life, pal!

Retribution is always for the collective population. A single human's life span is too short to make amends for all the misdeeds. Just like 'innocent' germans who suffered with Hitler during WWII, but learnt the correct lesson "no terrorism (hitler was a terrorist, a very powerful one), no cleansing, no fundamentalism". Maybe muslims will learn the same lesson once all this is over.

[desin01]

Lets not have divide ---> chalo mil-bhaat ke khaa lo...

Some more good news, war over in 10 days !!!
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/cms.dll/html/uncomp/articleshow?msid=40688559

India Inc bets on a short war, business in Iraq


NEW DELHI: Corporate India expects the US-led assault on Iraq to be brief and reacted with caution by stating that there will be minimal impact on the economy.

Falling oil prices, coupled with a positive reaction from the global stock markets, has improved the confidence levels of the industry. In the absence of any travel advisory or increased alert from the US, business expects the war to end within 10 days.

The immediate cost to the economy will be the evacuation of 3.8 million Indians working in the Gulf region. This will have a ripple effect on the airline industry.

Despite US sanctions on Iraq, 200 Indian companies do business in Iraq. Most of this is through the oil for food programme; amounting to $206 million. Indian firms are also constructing highways in Iraq.

Despite rising insurance premia for tankers and higher charter costs, industry remains optimistic. "It will be short and not a long war,’’ said Tarun Das, director general CII. He added that if the war lasted for less than 15 days, there would be limited impact on the economy.

However, a prolonged war — beyond 20 days — in Iraq, may lead to dire consequences for the Indian economy in the form of rise in oil prices, lower growth in manufacturing and IT exports.

The infotech industry is already feeling the heat. Software exports from India may be hit as the recovery of US economy could be delayed.

"IT companies with longer contract period for outsourcing will not be impacted immediately. Small and medium IT firms operating on short term contracts will be hit ,’’ said a CII official.

The impact will become visible with falling revenues for manufacturing and IT companies in their fourth quarter results. The prices of diesel, oil, LPG and kerosene may see a spurt. Also, prices of products with a chemical ingredients will go up.

Corporate India has also started to evaluate post war scenario. FICCI see a lot of scope for Indian steel, cement and construction industries. "Indian business tradtionally has had good networking relation with Iraq. If there is a regime change these networks do not change,’’ said Amit Mitra, secretary general, FICCI.

Overseas businessmen are rushing back home in the wake of the 48-hour deadline set by the US to Iraq. Industry has high hopes that Sun Microsystems’ chairman Scott McNealy will make it on Thursday for his India visit.

[echarcha]

I think it will be good if we can get into the IT sector which surely will spring up after the dust settles down in Iraq.

[Madhav]

Originally posted by Big-G
Forgotten by petty, selfish pieces of $hit like you and me. For those who are gonna see their children, parents, husbands, wives, daughters and sister die before their very eyes, the only thing that'll make them forget this is death.

Ever wonder how terrorists are created
??

You mean LeT was created becasue Hindus went about killing civilians in pakistan?
or ethnic cleansing in Kashmir was in response to dwindling percentage of muslims in other parts of india?
or Godhra was done bcause Hindus went about killing tarins full of hajis ?
or Amarnath yatra was attacked three years running because Hindus have been attcking haj yatras before ?
or Jinnah called for direct action because hindus have been massacering mulims for centuries?

Dont go about justifying islamic terrorrism .
islamic terrorrism IS NOt a response to any injustcice , IT IS ATROCITY In itself which has been tolearted by world way beyond reson
You may be pretending to be pacifist but you sound like recruitement agent for jihadis
(though i admit you are real moderate by islamic standards)

[echarcha]

Please remember that your anti or pro war sentiments should not leave is divided once the Iraq war is done with.

[Bro]

... with madhav for the first time. Yes Big-G I would also like to know how hindu fundamentalism was created? Silence speaks a lot. The silence of all the leading members regarding Godhra incident shows that they too agree not because they are terrorists at heart and no also not because muslim fanatics but because of pinkos like you. Remember when we were kids if our mom came and scolded us and said i am scolding both of you even though we didn't start the fight. Well its the same here FIRST concentrate your efforts in scolding the person who started this (yes jinnah representing muslims) and then scold the other party...

[desiboy]

Originally posted by Bro
... with madhav for the first time. Yes Big-G I would also like to know how hindu fundamentalism was created? Silence speaks a lot. The silence of all the leading members regarding Godhra incident shows that they too agree not because they are terrorists at heart and no also not because muslim fanatics but because of pinkos like you. Remember when we were kids if our mom came and scolded us and said i am scolding both of you even though we didn't start the fight. Well its the same here FIRST concentrate your efforts in scolding the person who started this (yes jinnah representing few muslims) and then scold the other party...

well then people like madho should aslo understand that majority of muslims were not with him and stayed back with thier own motherland instead of going to a new place which was supposed to be only for muslims.and they should be given the same respect as given to other indians.. its just like they treat black american ins USA..people like madho just treat muslims like they are not part of india as americans used to treat black americans.. its now our fault that some people created pakistand and went there.. we didnt go we stayed here.. so what..what the fu(k we did wrong..is it our fault???.. well what u say about that.???


and i know madhav will come here barking.............

[Madhav]

Originally posted by desiboy
well then people like madho should aslo understand that majority of muslims were not with him and stayed back with thier own motherland instead of going to a new place which was supposed to be only for muslims.and they should be given the same respect as given to other indians.. its just like they treat black american ins USA..people like madho just treat muslims like they are not part of india as americans used to treat black americans.. its now our fault that some people created pakistand and went there.. we didnt go we stayed here.. so what..what the fu(k we did wrong..is it our fault???.. well what u say about that.???


and i know madhav will come here barking.............

i am avoiding your trap (only once)

ok i related many attacks on hidus after partition .

my argument was :why the **** anybody wants to justify islamic criminality as aresponse to an injustcice (thats what biggie treied to do)

just a little fact which is not needed for my argment --the support for pakistan was strongest in area which finally remained in india.

[Bro]

I was pointing to Big-G's sudden sympathy. Its very rare that he uses words that make sense. Its usually who will do it to him or whom he will do it. How come he showed no sympathy to the victims but when one bosdike was arrested he is shedding tears.?How come he has no sympathy for all the police/military people killed while defending the country but sheds tears when a good for nothing terrorist is killed in action(I remember a thread where he asked for proof when a terrorist was killed with a gun in hand in some temple). I am just pointing his hypocracy ....