ICC Champions Trophy 2002

[smellyfinger]

Good news .. India is going to field a full side. Apparently the bookies gave the go ahead to the team to sign the documents.


Now, does anybody know who has the broadcast rights for this tournament in the US. Sony has the worldwide rights, but I dont think they are going to show it here for free (on Sony TV). Dish network/Kelly have not announced their telecast plans yet. Anyone have any information on this??

[smellyfinger]

OK then .. I'll reply to myself ..

Dish network announces the ODI package for the ICC Champions trophy .. of course they had to wait till the Indian Cricketers signed the contract ..

Now heres the problem - 200 bucks for the package. India plays 2 matches (luckily both on weekends). even if they make the finals, that will be 4 matches I will watch for 200 bucks - 50 bucks a match. This is still ridiculous. I think these guys are getting too greedy. The old 20 bucks per match was much better, and I believe, in the long run, they will make more money from that pricing scheme.

Dish Network ki *** ki *****

:mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:

[Big-G]

Melly Pai, don't mean to intrude in your personal matters but it's time you got your priorities right.

200 bucks will get you atleast 8 lapdances.

[smellyfinger]

Exactly bro .. I can see the match at 20 bucks a pop .. and get a few lap dances while doing so. Haraamzaadon ne poora plan bigaad diya

Dish network ki behen da ******

[Big-G]

This is thievery man. Saala, yahi 200 dollar Indian Team ko do toh poori team ghar pay aakay lapdance daykay jaayegi.

Cable Network ki ***** ko ******* pay bitha kay uski ****** kay **** meiN ****** ka **********

[GpeL]

biggie.. cable network nahi.. dish network..

Sahi hai 200$ me to aaj kal jagmohan dalmiaa ko bhi saath me laate hain..

dish network ki **** ** ***** ** ****** ** ********

[smellyfinger]

Aaj daroo peekar firse gaali bhara email bhejoonga main. Dekhte hain kya bolte hain.

Last time I yelled at the poor girl answering the phone at 1:00 am - then I sent a flowery email .. got a response from their programming director (or some automated replica thereof).

Dish network ki **** mein **** daalkar ****** ko uchhaal uchaal kar ***** ke saath **** mein cricket kheloonga.

[GpeL]

Yaar Championship ke liye itna maang rahe hain to world cup ke liye to :eek: phat jaayegi!!


Dish network ki **** di *** me ****** dal kar world cup ghusedun...

[dirty]

Now heres the problem - 200 bucks for the package. India plays 2 matches (luckily both on weekends). even if they make the finals, that will be 4 matches I will watch for 200 bucks - 50 bucks a match.
Abe char yaar jama kar. 50/4 = whatever for the match.

[Arabian Knight]

First Match : Pukistan vs Sri Lanka

Pak : 26/3 (8.0 ov)

[Napolean]

Pakistan 133/5 after 33 overs.
Misbah has come to the crease..
I was waiting for this moment.

[bakchatter]

what is so special about Misbah? :confused:

[Arabian Knight]

Originally posted by bakchatter
what is so special about Misbah? :confused:
Nepali is nuts abt him :p

Is he desibaba's long lost brother ?

[nydood]

Misbah made 47. Saeed Anwar top scored on the paki side with 52.
Pakistan all out for 200. Sri Lanka are 44 for no loss after 8 overs. :)

[Charchila]

Pak 200/10
SL 166/2 (RRR: 1.78)

Suryabhai 91* (107, 9x4)
Aurobindo 47* (58, 4x4)

Partnership: 121* at 5.58 :up:

Good start of the ICC Champions Trophy :up: :clap:

[dirty]

Lankavasi ki vijay hui...........

[smellyfinger]

The first ever third umpire LBW decision was given in this match


Shoaib Malik, offie turned top order batsman became a part of history when he missed one from Chaminda Vaas and was rapped on the pad. Umpire Daryl Harper, in the new powers vested in him by the ICC, referred the matter to third umpire Rudi Koertzen. After a delay that was a touch longer than the 20 seconds the ICC suggested such matters would take, the finger went up. Slow motion replays showed that the ball pitched in line with the stumps and that is all the third umpire can rule on. Whether the ball would have gone on to hit the stumps, being one of Vaas' benders, is still a matter of debate.

Shoaib Malik lbw b Vaas 1 (with assistance from Harper/Koertzen)

is an entry that will be remembered for a time to come.



Is this is a good or bad thing for cricket? What do you think?

[GpeL]

Originally posted by smellyfinger


Is this is a good or bad thing for cricket? What do you think?

LBW's are bad for cricket period..


















































Infact I think all kinds of OUT are bad for cricket.. they should not have stumps and all catches should be banned and without stumps runout ka sawaal hi nahi uth-ta.

[Napolean]

Originally posted by smellyfinger
The first ever third umpire LBW decision was given in this match




Is this is a good or bad thing for cricket? What do you think?

I think it is good ....It will reduce the scope of a person given LBW
wrongly to a great extent...Only things which go against it are reduction of human factor in the game and reduction of speed of the game.

[Napolean]

Originally posted by Arabian Knight

Nepali is nuts abt him :p

Is he desibaba's long lost brother ?

:D Arabian/Baks....He is in my SuperSelector team..that's why

:D

[nayasavera]

Originally posted by smellyfinger
The first ever third umpire LBW decision was given in this match




Is this is a good or bad thing for cricket? What do you think?

:up:
i think its a good development.. it happens so many times that a batsman is given out and the tv replays clearly show that the ball wud have gone down the leg or the ball had pitched outside leg. no more of this i hope..

umpire in the middle will still be the best judge for something like if the ball had hit the bat bfore it hit the pad.. but on the whole i think it causes no harm ..

[nayasavera]

i have always had a question abt the lbw rules..

why is a batsman not given out when the ball pitches outside leg turns enough and hits the batsman's pad right in front of wickets ? i know its a rule.. but what can be the logic behind this rule? i find it unfair to the bowlers. i called ravi shastri once on a show and asked him the question and all he said that it was this way to discourage negative bowling tactics.

any other thoughts.. ??

[smellyfinger]

Nayasavera

Well, the third umpire can only judge whether the ball pitched in line with the stumps. Where it is going to go still depends on the guy in the middle. So , in essence, the guy in the middle thinks "the ball was going to hit the stumps, but I am not sure whether it actually pitched in line with the stumps". Only then will he ask for a 3rd umpire call.


Yes, that is the precise reason. It is very annoying to play at a constant line outside leg stump turning in. That is what Giles has been trying to do to Tendulkar in the last 2 series. He has been frustrating him. In tests he can just kick the ball away. But in ODIs he has to play at that. I like that rule. Its the other rule I dont understand .. why, if the ball hits you on the pad outside line of offstump, but would go ahead and hit the stumps anyway, is it not LBW?

[nayasavera]

if the ball hits the pad outside off, then the batsman may be given out if no shot is offered.. i remember mohinder was given out once even when his left foot was almost a meter away from the stumps..

for the leg side rule, yeah u r right.. if people start bowling a consistent line ouside leg then this rule makes sense.. but the occasional good deliveries also go unrewarded..

[smellyfinger]

People like Shane warne would be unplayable .. they would bowl from wide around the wicket and get the ball to turn almost at right angles to the pitch .. :D

I believe the rule has been revised in recent years for outside the off .. i dont think it matters whether there was a shot offered or not. I could be wrong though.

[nayasavera]

from cricket.org...

Law 36: Leg Before Wicket
1. Out L.B.W.
The Striker shall be out L.B.W. in the circumstances set out below:-
(a) Striker Attempting to Play the Ball

The Striker shall be out L.B.W. if he first intercepts with any part of his person, dress or equipment a fair ball which would have hit the wicket and which has not previously touched his bat or a hand holding the bat, provided that:-

(i) The ball pitched, in a straight line between wicket and wicket or on the off side of the Striker's wicket, or was intercepted full pitch.

and

(ii) The point of impact is in a straight line between wicket and wicket, even if above the level of the bails.

(b) Striker Making No Attempt to Play the Ball

The Striker shall be out L.B.W. even if the ball is intercepted outside the line of the off-stump, if, in the opinion of the Umpire, he has made no genuine attempt to play the ball with his bat, but has intercepted the ball with some part of his person and if the other circumstances set out in (a) above apply.

Date-stamped : 01 Apr2001 - 14:24

http://www.cricket.org/link_to_database/ABOUT_CRICKET/LAWS/1980_CODE/LAW_36_LBW.html

[smellyfinger]

cool .. thanks for the correction .. it just seems that there is a lot of padding outside offstump, even to offspinners. Maybe hiding your bat behind your pad is considered an "attempt to play the ball" :)

[Arabian Knight]

India 98/5 (15.0 ov)

Ganguly, Sehwag, Sachin, Mongia, Yuvraj are back in the dressing room. Inspite of a good run rate, India have lost too many wickets and are in deep trouble :(

[YedaAnna]

Batting Team : India
Batsmen Runs Balls 4's 6's
Saurav Ganguly c Alistair Campbell b D Hondo 13 12 3 0
Virendra Shewag c Andy Flower b S M Ervine 48 36 8 0
Dinesh Mongia c Alistair Campbell b D Hondo 0 4 0 0
Sachin Tendulkar c Alistair Campbell b D Hondo 7 16 0 0
Rahul Dravid run out Stuart Carlisle 71 81 6 0
Yuvraj Singh c S M Ervine b D Hondo 3 7 0 0
Mohammad Kaif Not Out 111 112 8 1
Anil Kumble Not Out 18 36 0 0

Overs : 50 . 0 Extras : 17 ( NB-4 , WB-6, LB-3 , Byes-4 ,Penalty-0 )
Run Rate : 5.76 India Leads by 14 Runs Total Score : 288 / 6
FOW :1-25(S.Ganguly 3.2), 2-25(D.Mongia 3.6), 3-67(S.Tendulkar 9.5), 4-84(V.Shewag 12.1), 5-88(Y.Singh 13.2), 6-204(R.Dravid 37.3),
Rest of Team : Harbhajan Singh , Zaheer Khan , Ashish Nehra ,
Bowling Team : Zimbabwe
Bowlers Overs Mdns Runs Wkts Nb Wb R.R
D Hondo 9 . 0 1 62 4 2 1 6.89
D Marillier 5 . 0 0 23 0 0 0 4.60
G J Whittall 8 . 0 0 38 0 0 2 4.75
Grant Flower 3 . 0 0 14 0 0 1 4.67
Heath Streak 7 . 0 0 48 0 2 0 6.86
Raymond Price 10 . 0 0 38 0 0 0 3.80
S M Ervine 8 . 0 0 60 1 0 2 7.50

Batting Team : Zimbabwe
Batsmen Runs Balls 4's 6's
Alistair Campbell c Yuvraj Singh b Zaheer Khan 8 26 0 0
Dion Ebrahim lbw Zaheer Khan 0 3 0 0
Andy Flower c Saurav Ganguly b Sachin Tendulkar 145 164 13 0
Grant Flower run out Yuvraj Singh 33 41 1 0
Stuart Carlisle b Sachin Tendulkar 2 4 0 0
G J Whittall c Rahul Dravid b Zaheer Khan 29 30 2 0
D Marillier c Saurav Ganguly b Anil Kumble 14 19 0 0
S M Ervine b Zaheer Khan 5 12 0 0
Heath Streak Not Out 6 5 0 0

Overs : 50 . 0 Extras : 32 ( NB-4 , WB-6, LB-16 , Byes-6 ,Penalty-0 )
Run Rate : 5.48 India Leads by 14 Runs Total Score : 274 / 8
FOW :1-1(D.Ebrahim 0.4), 2-43(A.Campbell 10.1), 3-127(G.Flower 26.4), 4-130(S.Carlisle 27.3), 5-201(G.J.Whittall 39.1), 6-240(D.Marillier 44.6), 7-263(A.Flower 48.4), 8-274(S.M.Ervine 49.6),
Rest of Team : Raymond Price , D Hondo ,
Bowling Team : India
Bowlers Overs Mdns Runs Wkts Nb Wb R.R
Anil Kumble 10 . 0 0 48 1 1 1 4.80
Ashish Nehra 8 . 0 0 37 0 2 2 4.63
Harbhajan Singh 10 . 0 0 44 0 0 1 4.40
Sachin Tendulkar 7 . 0 0 41 2 0 1 5.86
Saurav Ganguly 2 . 0 1 13 0 0 0 6.50
Yuvraj Singh 3 . 0 0 24 0 0 0 8.00
Zaheer Khan 10 . 0 2 45 4 1 1 4.50


India Win by 14 runs

[bakchatter]

Kaif has scored 198 runs now without getting out since the NatWest Final. :clap:

[Zorro]

after a long time the indian team is fighting under pressure. previously batting first and being 87/5 would have seen the team score at most 220 or 230 runs, but thats no longer the case. i hope bcci or selectors dont mess with this combination till the world cup.

there are talks that kaif needs to bat higher up the order. i think he is the perfect number 7 batsman for india, as he negates any screw ups of the top order batsmen. what do you guys think? should he bat higher up or remain at #7?

[nayasavera]

Originally posted by Zorro

there are talks that kaif needs to bat higher up the order. i think he is the perfect number 7 batsman for india, as he negates any screw ups of the top order batsmen. what do you guys think? should he bat higher up or remain at #7?

i think he is fine down the order.. v needed someone there as jadja is not playing any more..

kaif - a good find :up:

[bakchatter]

He is playing well at number 7 so that shouldnt be changed.
Shouldnt try to fix something that isnt broken.
Well if he goes on like this and his reputation keeps increasing then the opposing teams will have to worry about

1) Sehwag at the top order
2) Sachin in the middle order, and even after dismissing these two they cant be comfortable coz
3) Kaif and Yuvraj in lower middle order is also there to think about.

Upar se Saurav and Dravid to hain hee.

We just need better performance from our bowlers. Zaheer is doing well baaki bowlers ko achcha perform karna padega.

[GpeL]

Guys, I downloaded a small app that stays in the corner and keeps score live. Its from criclive.com. Anyone know any other betterone? This updates every one minute. Pretty neat stuff and pretty small.. as big as a 1 dollar coin and stays in the corner.

Right now showing the score of ENG, ZIM match and has a scrolling bar which shows individual score. No commentary though.. too small for that.anything similar small and yet gives ball by ball commentary without having to have explorer open?

[smellyfinger]

Originally posted by GpeL
Guys, I downloaded a small app that stays in the corner and keeps score live. Its from criclive.com. Anyone know any other betterone? This updates every one minute. Pretty neat stuff and pretty small.. as big as a 1 dollar coin and stays in the corner.

Right now showing the score of ENG, ZIM match and has a scrolling bar which shows individual score. No commentary though.. too small for that.anything similar small and yet gives ball by ball commentary without having to have explorer open?

Yeah - its called a radio :D

[Charchila]

Eng (298) def. Zim (190)

Trescothick is good! Scored 119 off 102 today. :up:

[Charchila]

South Africa beat Kenya by 176 runs
SA 316/5
Ken 140/10

[bakchatter]

Kya maaraa hai bawa England ko, kya maaraa hai. It was absolute mayhem. :clap:

[bakchatter]

Tony Grieg sala kya ro raha tha after the match. Maza aa gaya tha uskee shakal dekh ke. Luckily Shrikant tha post match analysis mein and not Sidhu warna to ... :D

[Napolean]

One question which will be ringing now in rival teams' thinktanks is that what sort of total is big enough for India ...350?400?
Well,the sort of Form Indian batsmen are in right now it seems they can successfully chase 350...
If India bowling improves only a little ,they are well and truly world beaters..:up:

[bakchatter]

Are yaar bowling ko to maine bhi itna kharaab nahi socha tha. Harbhajan meri team mein hai aur 110 points leke baitha hua hai lekin usne poore tournament mein ek bhi wicket nahi liya hai :( and Kumble is also proving to be ineffective. And these are slow turners of Sri Lanka.

But seriously, pehle opposing captain had just to think of getting rid of Sachin and they knew that Indians would cave in.

Ab ehle Sehwag ka socho, fir Ganguly ka socho aur ye sochte sochte ye bhi socho ki Sachin ko to abhi aane ka hai aur Sachin ke baad Kaif aur Yuvi bhi hain. :D aur agar we loose early wickets, then Dravid is there at number 5 ;)

Now nobody should ever again doubt about trying to promote Sachin to open. Sehwag and Ganguly opening is formidable and Sachin coming at number 4 gives a balance to the batting line-up.
Also I dont think we should think about getting a regular keeper instead of Dravid. Dravid basically had an off-day yesterday thats all. I think he is doing better keeping than people like Vijay Yadav etc who were also good batsmen.

[Napolean]

Harbhajan meri bhi team meiN hai yaar...2 match mein abhi khata bhi nahin khola hai oosane....isase achchhaa to Kumble ko liya hota ....3 wicket liye haiN oosane is tourney meiN...
:(

[Napolean]

Ind 189/4 (37.0)
Run Rate 5.11

R Dravid 45 (57)
Yuvraj Singh 23 (35)

L Klusener 6-0-21-0

[dirty]

S.A 122/1 24.3 overs in reply to india's 261-9

[smellyfinger]

Haar gaye M*******d

[GpeL]

Haar gaye kauve ke jhant.

[nydood]

err.. pelu pai... kauve ka insult kyon kar rahe ho?
btw... kauve ke saath aapne kya kya kiya hai? :D

[nayasavera]

:( -> infinity..

haar gaye maadar...d

[nayasavera]

bhajji strikes twice..

india very much back in the game.. :up:

64 required of 10 overs..

[dirty]

228-4 46.3 overs

[YedaAnna]

1 over 21 runs wanted...sexy maan

[dirty]

Kallis SIX

15 off 5 balls

[dirty]

Kallis out !

[YedaAnna]

keeeeeeeehoooooooooo

[dirty]

11 off 2

[dirty]

Won jeet gaye.....................

[tempest]

shabash!!

ab main halke sar se (light-headed) kaam kar sakti hoon.

Sounds like an exciting match! wish we could see it on telly live. *sighyaan* live cricket dekhe aik zamana ho gaya!

[dirty]

Originally posted by tempest
shabash!!

ab main halke sar se (light-headed) kaam kar sakti hoon.


Empty heads are light..........................:D

































(Dont tell me you didn't see it coming )

[Charchila]

Yesssssssssssssss! What a win! What a win! What a win!
:clap: :clap: :clap:

(goes back and dances...)

[vyomkeshsaxena]

:clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap:

yuvraj singh's 2 catches were awesome....simply superb...:up:

i'em really proud of our indian cricket team....:cool:

[bakchatter]

Originally posted by nayasavera
bhajji strikes twice..
india very much back in the game.. :up:
64 required of 10 overs..

First wicket was a sensational catch by Yuvraj to get rid of Jonty. Wow what a catch what a catch what a catch Jonty would have been shocked by the catch himself. I think this is probably the best catch I have seen ever and I do follow a lot of cricket.
Catches win matches and this catch of Yuvi really was the turning point. :clap:

[bakchatter]

Oh yeah I forgot to mention another thing for those who didnt see the game.
8 years back in the Hero cup semi-final against South Africa Tendulkar bowled a tight final over to restrict SA and give India victory.
Yesterday Sehwag bowled in another semi-final, against SA and again very tightly at the death to give Indian victory.
How many more dimensions to the similarity or coincidences between these two are there? :p :up:

[smellyfinger]

Good news ...



Srinath Replaces Nehra for Final.

[GpeL]

Haar gaye M***********

[smellyfinger]

Details ....

Srinath replaces Nehra for Champions Trophy final
CricInfo - 27 September 2002

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Veteran medium-pacer Javagal Srinath is set to replace Ashish Nehra for the final of the Champions Trophy 2002 which India will play on Sunday.

In an about turn from their earlier position the Board of Control for Cricket in India (BCCI) acceded to the team's wishes and recalled Srinath, who is currently playing for Leicestershire in England.

Newly appointed secretary of the BCCI, S. K. Nair said in a statement that the Board had agreed to the replacement and this was okayed by the again newly formed selection committee. The International Cricket Council too gave the necessary permission to the Indian team.

Just recently, the chairman of the selection committee, former Karnataka and India cricketer Brijesh Patel, had said that he would try to persuade Srinath to change his mind and return to both Test and one-day cricket.

The honorary secretary of the BCCI also confirmed that Srinath had agreed to leave England immediately and fly to Colombo in order to reach in time to play the final.

Nehra injured his bowling hand when he attempted a run out off his bowling against South Africa. The Delhi medium-pacer split the webbing between his index and middle fingers and required five stitches.

(The frigging cricinfo site is running on a 286 with 1MB memory.) :mad:


http://www-usa.cricket.org/link_to_database/ARCHIVE/CRICKET_NEWS/2002/SEP/069600_ICCCT2002_27SEP2002.html

[Charchila]

Originally posted by smellyfinger
Veteran medium-pacer Javagal Srinath is set to replace Ashish Nehra for the final of the Champions Trophy 2002 which India will play on Sunday. :up:

(The frigging cricinfo site is running on a 286 with 1MB memory.) :mad: Use another mirror... www-ind.cricket.org/... is a lot faster when India is not playing. When India is playing and doing well... try www-pak.cricket.org :D [But the internal links (Main Scorecard, Full Scorecard, Live Report, etc. in the top frame somehow remains in the www-usa.cricket.org) Otherwise... www-sl, www-rsa work fine too. www-usa.cricket.org is just too slow these days! Maybe its their strategy to make us subsribe to CricInfo Plus.



de Silva 10-2-16-1 and 2* (16) MoM
Didn't know he can bowl that well.

I still hate him.

[YedaAnna]

Finals sahi hone waala hai beedu:clap: